just my opinion on why you guys seem hopeless

[robrulesyou]

I don't mean to stick around this forum for long, but I think I have come to some quick conclusions. I just got here the other day and maybe these are generalizations, but it's my 2 cents. I'm not a guy that's ever really put much thought into "attracting" women, but this seems like a good place when you need advice.

Just browsing the main discussion board I can see why so many of you have problems with women:

1) Most of you seem like women-haters. How do you expect to attract women when you are so bitter? I love women. They are fun to tease, play around with. They're not out to get you. Women can be so helpful if you just change the way you think.

2) A lot of you seem to overanalyze stuff. I do that too a little but not for attracting girls. I don't think I ever really 'thought' about how or anything. I think some of what you guys read into here is counter-productive. The best advice is probably just go out and talk to girls. I think I might show this site to my friend though, some of it could help him.

3) This place seems like a cult-like following. You guys all use these weird terminology like "HB," "AFC" etc. You treat it like a science. But it's not. I think the more you complicated you make it, the more complicated it's gonna be.

4) I think a part of why this place is so popular is because its selling lots of guys hope. and some of that is false hope. Yeah, maybe fat guys get laid but doing x + y + z is not going to always give you some consistent result. I think you guys'll be stuck on this site for a while if that's the way you think.

anyway just my opinion. I'm working out an issue w/ my relationship so I'm glad I found this place for my situation. but there doesn't really need to be a site to teach guys how to attract women. We're guys girls naturally like us. It's nature isn't it?

 

[realsmoothie]

there doesn't really need to be a site to teach guys how to attract women. We're guys girls naturally like us. It's nature isn't it?

So basically you're saying guys either are capable of picking up girls or not. There's no leeway? We can't learn?

Hogwash. I've learned MUCHO in the last couple of years, a lot of it from this site.

But hey, if you're an all-star chick-layer, bully for you!

 

[typical]

You come here looking for help then putdown the people who post the advice here .......... hmm ok I see why your having issues.

This place is like any other place you have your cool poeple and your not so cool people coming in and plain saying you guys suck is not the way to start off.

 

[Phyzzle]

That's like walking into a hospital and saying "What's with all these sick freaks? This place is terrible!"

The culture is wierd because everyone here either has severe social interaction problems or just got severely hurt by a woman he loved.

This is not some typical cross section of the population here!

 

[Phyzzle]

People post here ALL THE TIME simply to say that anyone who posts here is a hopeless retard.

:crackup:

No one ever sees the irony!

 

[00Kevin]

ok well let me respond to your points

1) we are not women haters. We don't hate women we love them. We just NEXT the bad ones and we don't look back. Those that fail to show high interest of no use to us.

2) many people here do overanalyze stuff, but you have to remember that they are just trying understand the facts and change their mindset.

3) Terminology has helped people identify situations and their own issues. LJBF is a classic and every guy needs to learn how to identify it when it comes your way. If you don't then you could experience being an emotional tampon.

4) Fat guys get laid but that is not the goal of this site. It is about self improvement and staying true to who you are as a man. Mostly this just means that you have to a) realize your mistakes. b) change your mindset and c) execute. Most guys come to this site because they have found that the "False Hope" they had brainwashed into them regarding women has put them into a depression. We all grow up being told this or that about women and how you should act but none of it ever works. Most of it is feminist propaganda proliferated by the media.

When I came to this site I was finally able to put into words all the stuff I was experiencing . I didn't belive it at first but when I actually started observing women and could predict their behavour and manipulate them.

In fact after the first week I had my ex girlfriend (the one using me as an emotional tampon) sleeping on my couch and her friend in my bed for the night.

 

[Michele l'Arcangelo]

People post here ALL THE TIME simply to say that anyone who posts here is a hopeless retard.

:crackup:

No one ever sees the irony!

No irony. They came here for a reason. We just realized what we need to know faster than anyone else here.

And if they havent realized it yet while being on this site. They must be hopeless retards

 

[qweretyuiopas]

So what brings you here then "rob"?

 

[Michele l'Arcangelo]

So what brings you here then "rob"?

People, people, people. LEARN TO READ! QUIT SKIMMING! It wasn't hard at all to read.

anyway just my opinion. I'm working out an issue w/ my relationship so I'm glad I found this place for my situation. but there doesn't really need to be a site to teach guys how to attract women. We're guys girls naturally like us. It's nature isn't it?

 

[Ace of Flames]

Don't forget about all the people that come to this site and just read. There are many lurkers that never join the forums. They just get what they need from the threads and the bible and move on.

... Now that I think about it, I don't know what that has to do with this thread...

 

[Delta]

to original poster, good lord man,

do you think all humans are FUNCTIONAL? we over analyze PRECISELY because it is not and NEVER WAS natural.

if it comes naturally, you don't need this place. you don't need to teach a horse how to run fast. but if the horse wounded and raised by turtles, you can bet that horse is not only a bad runner but he examines the strides of other horses like a frickin' scientist.

again, the perspective of someone who doesn't understand what it means to be in abject despair.

hey, if it's natural and girls like us, WHAT HAPPENED? how come so many guys are clueless virgins?

answer - it's not natural for all.

delta

 

[Trapper]

women are made to be loved, not understood.. we love women but we are not able to understand them.. they always flake out..hard to read their minds..so complicated like a jigsaw puzzle ...so here we are simply trying not to be a loser around women...

"Women's styles may change but their designs remain the same." Oscar wilde

"When women go wrong, men go right after them."

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

 

[Ace of Flames]

...

Agreed.

If you were told all your life to do this and act this way and say that, you would, right? Of course, that's conditioning.

Well, if all that stuff was bad advice, you'd be kinda screwed. If it was great advice, you'd be set. Sadly, most people get the former rather than the latter.

So, what are you supposed to do? The whole "nice guy" thing is a learned behavior. Hmmm.... I know! Overwrite it with another learned behavior! One that works better... like.... the DJ!

That's basically the story of most of the people here. They're just trying to erase all the bad advice they've been given with good. They're changing their wussy behavior and low confidence into strong leadership and high self-esteem. Surely, that can't be a bad thing?

Now I do agree with the OP on a few things. Some guys on here ARE pretty bitter towards women. Its a sad thing, because women are great. Also, a lot of people think WAAAAAAAAAAY too much when it comes to this stuff. When you stop talking like a normal person, and your field report is full of technical terms and such, you've taken it too far.

I don't believe this site gives false hope. It gives opportunities. If you don't make the effort, and you fail, then you come back yelling about how you were given "false hope", then that's not the site's fault, its yours. The advice given here has worked for many people in the past, and it still does now, so clearly its good stuff. In this example, I think you gave yourself false hope.

We're guys, girls naturally like some of us.

Fix'd.

 

[Tomatoes]

People post here ALL THE TIME simply to say that anyone who posts here is a hopeless retard.

:crackup:

No one ever sees the irony!

i was going to say that!


Plus..."most people" on this forum have problems with girls.

I get enough girls thank you very much. Do not generalise to a full extent.


On average men will have 11 sexual partners in their life. I passed that one this year.

I like to bring the average up.


Also sosuave doesnt sell anything...its free...Its a information source. It provides guys who really need help (there are alot on here) with good advice that will help them succeed.

I have slept with more women since i started coming to this site than i did in the first 20 years of life. My success and confidence is growing all the time. Yours can too....

All i need is your credit card details

 

[charlezz]

Somehow or another i agree and disagree with the topic starter.. Some advices gave are excellent and did improve my game a lot. While a minority seems to be giving "Empty" advices which they never experience the situation before..

Some of my PUA friends are excellent picking up girls in clubs but sometimes fall to their own AFC trap. There are no hard and fast rule as in to call "when and what time" I just feel like calling as and when i like <But of coz not like 4 times a day or the day after i get to know a decent girl>

Overanalysing is dangerous... When i decided to put seduction and attraction into science.. i tend to over analyse and indirect making oneitis situations..

The key i think is to follow the basic guidelines and still be yourself.. you may notice a better you..

Just my 2cents.

Charlezz

 

[Tha Realnezz]

Yeah and not only that but they seem to think personality trumps presentation which is false 80 percent of the time.

Not to mention putting eachother down constantly.I just post here once every few months for a few days out of curiosity/boredom.

 

[Ace of Flames]

Ooooh! I know why we're hopeless! Oooh! Pick me!

Its because of threads like this one: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=107177

We're too busy fighting over the STUPIDEST SH!T, we'll never get anywhere.

 

[qweretyuiopas]

People, people, people. LEARN TO READ! QUIT SKIMMING! It wasn't hard at all to read.

You misunderstood me, I wasnt really talking to "rob" I was asking Angelus what brung him here again. Thats why I put rob in these " "

 

[robrulesyou]

I regret posting this yesterday. I was feeling confident about planning to go talk to my girlfriend and best friend, but now I feel so low. I'm sorry if I acted like a know-it-all I didn't mean that. I was just making an observation.

 

[The Truth]

I don't mean to stick around this forum for long, but I think I have come to some quick conclusions. I just got here the other day and maybe these are generalizations, but it's my 2 cents. I'm not a guy that's ever really put much thought into "attracting" women, but this seems like a good place when you need advice.

Just browsing the main discussion board I can see why so many of you have problems with women:

1) Most of you seem like women-haters. How do you expect to attract women when you are so bitter? I love women. They are fun to tease, play around with. They're not out to get you. Women can be so helpful if you just change the way you think.

2) A lot of you seem to overanalyze stuff. I do that too a little but not for attracting girls. I don't think I ever really 'thought' about how or anything. I think some of what you guys read into here is counter-productive. The best advice is probably just go out and talk to girls. I think I might show this site to my friend though, some of it could help him.

3) This place seems like a cult-like following. You guys all use these weird terminology like "HB," "AFC" etc. You treat it like a science. But it's not. I think the more you complicated you make it, the more complicated it's gonna be.

4) I think a part of why this place is so popular is because its selling lots of guys hope. and some of that is false hope. Yeah, maybe fat guys get laid but doing x + y + z is not going to always give you some consistent result. I think you guys'll be stuck on this site for a while if that's the way you think.

I agree with every point!

This should be stuck to the top of the forum!!