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Just got back from our second date...

Santos

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Well, a quick summary: She's 17, but has a boyfriend for 11 months now, I asked her out last week for coffee then when I dropped her off at her house she invited me inside for more coffee. We talked. Alot.

Tonight:
We went out for dinner first. I thought the date was going for the worse - I thought it was all over. So we get the bill, and she's like "Shall we go have coffee now?". So we have coffee and a coffee house nearby, then I drop her at her house and she's like "Hey, do you wanna come inside."

She got changed into more comfortable clothing (god, she looked cute) and we had more coffee and sat talking in the living room talking while her parents are asleep upstairs. But DAMN IT I couldn't bring myself to get physical, we sat in the living room on opposite sofas and everytime I thought about touching her sexy body I think "BOYFRIEND!"

But I've improved from the last date and I was very c & f, got her laughing (at my bad jokes) and we even started talking about lesbians and other "interesting" things. So at least I've KIND OF saved my ass. For now.

So she said to me tonight how her younger sister is having a party tommorrow night and she's going to be all alone looking after them all. "What are you doing tommorow night?", she asks. I say I'm probably going out to dinner with my friends, but I can stop by her afterwards if she'd like.

So another "date" is set. We're going to watch videos. I HAVE to get physical now, but I'm not sure about full blown kissing. (am I a wuss?) I was thinking, seeing that its winter, we could cuddle up and I could get some kino in. If you have comments feel free. :)

Just before I posted about planning the second date I was saying how she was a 6.5, well I'd like to change that to a 7. She's actually a lot better looking than I first thought, also she's quite intelligent and cool to talk to.

I'm aware of the BF problem, although I get the feeling she's interested, but I'm worried about making out with her because she might start feeling guilty about cheating on her BF and pulling back. I want her to slowly start liking me more and more, then break up with the BF (am I in lala-land?)

Anyway I HAVE to get physical, I know this. I'm just worried about her pulling back because she doesn't want to cheat. But maybe I'm just niave. :) comments plz

Thanks guys!
Santos
 

SamePendo

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There is NO problem.

You are worried about things that are NOT an issue. There is no BF problem. Remember, kino doesnt mean scratching her cro.tch (cro.tch isnt censurable is it?).. it means toching her elbow, arm, shoulder. Remember, go in for the kiss once you have applied some kino. She might feel guilt, and back out, insist a bit, KNOW that she DOES want to make out with you, but if she gets in a totally NO-NO attitude, well, leave it there and move on.
 

One on One

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It's not your fault if she cheats...that's all I gotta say. One thing I've learned from this site is as long as you don't force yourself on a girl, you have nothing to feel guilty about. You did not take advantage of her.
 

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What is with all the threads about trying to steal girls from their bf's. Why cant you find a single girl. In my opinion I think stealing someone from someone else is pretty low. That guy put in his effort to get her why are you trying to take that from him. How would you feel if some dude was trying to steal your girlfriend. I am not trying to condemn you or anyone else, you are old enough to make your own decisions. i am just sick of the "she has a boyfriend how do i get her to like me" threads and its been a long day so i am tired. :p
 

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Originally posted by Mr. Delicious
What is with all the threads about trying to steal girls from their bf's. Why cant you find a single girl. In my opinion I think stealing someone from someone else is pretty low. That guy put in his effort to get her why are you trying to take that from him. How would you feel if some dude was trying to steal your girlfriend. I am not trying to condemn you or anyone else, you are old enough to make your own decisions. i am just sick of the "she has a boyfriend how do i get her to like me" threads and its been a long day so i am tired. :p
Well, I don't think I have to get her to like me, she seems pretty interested. She seemed interested the first time we met, I asked her out on a date. She could of said no, but both times she agreed to go out with me (and now wants to see me a third time). If she was that happy with the guy she would have just left me alone , there's no "stealing" going on. Im not bad-mouthing her BF. Not try any "tactics" I'm just being myself, if she likes that then great.

Although I know I'd be pissed off if I was in the boyfriends shoes, what could I do if she met someone else she liked more?
 

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If she wants to cheat on or leave her bf for someone else, she will. There's no 'stealing' involved - she makes her own choices as do all of us.

That said, Santos my man, you need to sack up and make some moves on this girl if you're going to keep her interested.

I HAVE to get physical now, but I'm not sure about full blown kissing
WTF? Kissing is just the beginning, not some huge deal. You've not even begun to show her you want her until you kiss her, so man up, and when the opportunity arises do it.

(am I a wuss?)
If you go to this girls house late at night, watch vids with her and don't even try to kiss her, then you're a big wuss.

bp1974
 

Oscar Wilde

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There is the school of thought that says something along these lines:

If You see her as more than a fling/STR Then
You should say to her that you are not comfortable with the fact that she has a BF

I think there has been quite a few posts on this recently, read back a couple of pages.

Osc.
 

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Ok thanks for all the input guys, I appreciate it. Well I'm off to her place in a few hours. I figure I make my move and see what happens from there. I am a little afraid of "losing" my chance with her, but it's better than not taking action and being put in the friend zone. If I kiss her I'm saying "choose between me or your boyfriend." If she likes me enough, then it'll work.

Thanks!
Santos
 

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I've posted about stealing bf's before and mr. delicious just about said what I said to a T. Why all the bf stealing? Go out and find your own woman.
 

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Just remember, if she'll cheat on her boyfriend for you, she'll cheat on you for somebody else.

This girl is a psycho... she does not care about the commitment she's promised to another person... my advice is to just hit that shyt and move on.
 

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Originally posted by MDgood
Just remember, if she'll cheat on her boyfriend for you, she'll cheat on you for somebody else.

This girl is a psycho... she does not care about the commitment she's promised to another person... my advice is to just hit that shyt and move on.
exactly! not only is it mean to steal a chick but if she is willing to cheat on him she will cheat on you too. Once a cheater always a cheater.
 

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oh, so many problems here

1. she's only 17. Find someone who's not jail bait.
2. She's only 17. Find someone you don't have to buy beer for.
3. She lives at home with her parents.
4. SHE ALREADY HAS A BOYFRIEND!!!!

You need to find someone your own age, who's on the same maturity level as yourself. (i.e. out of high school, living on her own, old enough to drink and go to clubs.)

sitting on an underage girls parents couch secretly sipping stolen beer at 830 pm before you get kicked out because of her curfew doesn't sound like too much fun for a 21 yr old guy.
 
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