John Lennon's Opinion about Overpopulation

[NO_BODY]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yRh5NNiFG0


hahaha, I love John Lennon.

Sleeze bag eugenicists at Copenhagen are talking about signing this treaty which would among other things impose global 1-child limits. That's population reduction by 50% if you can do math. Let's do the math. You take two people, and those two people make 1 human, in a generation instead of 6 billion, you'll have 3 billion, in two generations instead of 3 billion you'd have 1.5 billion, etc, etc.. All based on faulty fixed science as the recent climate gate scandal indicates. In fact science, when not tempered with, indicates man's effects on climate are insignificant, and in fact earth is not warming but cooling. http://www.petitionproject.org/


So what is global warming? Here is an accurate analogy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_ASjFzi7J0
Corporations have bought billions in "carbon credit", an investment. Rich men making more money on people's ignorance. Let's save the earth, here is an idea, let's tax the air we breath. Sounds ridiculous? How about we tax the air we exhale? Because that's what it is. Pay rich men money or the manbearpig is going to get you, bobba.


I hope you enjoyed this short rant. NWO we've been talking about is out in the light now, sleeze bags can no longer deny its existence. Fight NWO, or what Al Gore calls global governance. Fight for your future and the future of your children to live free.





peace, liberty, and justice

 

[horaholic]

That was 35 years ago. There were less than 5 billion people on the planet. If you dont think we're overpopulated, you're a dip****. If they did, in fact implement the one child per couple law, it would take close to 90 years to halve the population, assuming something else doesnt wipe us out first. Nature has ways of balancing population, through diseases, and starvation, etc, and we have thwarted nature for too long, so other things like attitude is killing us off. The denser the population is, the angrier people are, and the more fighting, killing, and war happens. What was John Lennons stance on war and fighting??? Overpopulation CREATES war, fighting, and negativity in general.

I for one, am all for decreasing the population, and its better to limit births, than to kill people off. Maybe Im a nazi for saying this, but I think people should have to pass a series of tests to have children. This world is totally fvcked up, and the large majority of that is from people shytting out kids irresponsibly.

As far as that petition goes... Even if humans arent creating global warming, does not make it OK to continue producing atmosphere damaging chemicals. They are even claiming that limiting production of greenhouse gases is actually damaging to the environment. Wow. For being an advocate against the NWO, you sure do their bidding . You're their favorite type of pawn; one that serves their agenda, while thinking they are against it. Wake up. Did it ever occur to you, that the people behind that petition have something to gain by producing greenhouse gases?

 

[Guoy Darko]

...impose global 1-child limits. That's population reduction by 50% if you can do math. Let's do the math. You take two people, and those two people make 1 human, in a generation instead of 6 billion, you'll have 3 billion, in two generations instead of 3 billion you'd have 1.5 billion, etc, etc..

Looks like you cannot do the math yourself either. Your calculations are based on some idea that for every new generation that gets born, the previous generation dies out completely. :crazy:

 

[theunflushables]

Can you give us the page and the section where they recommend implementing a 1 child system? I skimmed through 30 pages and could not find anything related to such a policy.

And the whole planet cooling theory is false. This decade is going down as possibly the warmest. http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...climate_09int.ART.State.Edition1.4bb7c38.html

As far as Man Bear Pig, remember eventually he was proven as being real (The Imagination Land Trilogy). And we know science HAS proven climate change is real.

 

[ENIGMA16]

The earth isn't overpopulated. The problem isn't in population numbers but rather in the inefficient distribution of resources. Children in Africa aren't starving because there isn't enough food on this planet to feed them; they're starving because there's no financial incentive for these companies to ship this food to Africa to give away as opposed to just throwing it out. In fact, there's a financial disincentive in driving down the price of their product. Such is the absurdity of capitalism.

"It is in the economic crises that the contradiction between the progressive socialization of production and the private appropriation which serves as its driving power and its support, breaks out in the most extraordinary way. For capitalist economic crises are incredible phenomena like nothing ever seen before. They are not crises of scarcity, like all pre-capitalist crises; they are crises of overproduction. The unemployed die of hunger not because there is too little to eat but because there is relatively too great a supply of foodstuffs.

"At first sight the thing seems incomprehensible. How can anyone die because there is a surplus of food, because there is a surplus of goods? But the mechanism of the capitalist system makes this seeming paradox understandable. Goods which do not find buyers not only do not realize their surplus value but they do not even return their invested capital. The slump in sales therefore forces businessmen to suspend their operations. They are therefore forced to lay off their workers and since the laid-off workers have no reserves, since they can subsist only when they are selling their labor-power, unemployment obviously condemns them to the starkest poverty and precisely because the relative abundance of goods has resulted in a slump in sales.

"The factor of periodic economic crises is inherent in the capitalist system and remains insurmountable. We shall see further on that this remains equally true in the neocapitalist regime in which we are now living, even if these crises are now called “recessions.” Crises are the clearest manifestation of the fundamental contradiction in the system and a periodic reminder that it is condemned to die sooner or later."
-Ernest Mandel

Talking about how overpopulation is the problem is neo-Malthusian trash.

 

[speakeasy]

The earth isn't overpopulated. The problem isn't in population numbers but rather in the inefficient distribution of resources. Children in Africa aren't starving because there isn't enough food on this planet to feed them; they're starving because there's no financial incentive for these companies to ship this food to Africa to give away as opposed to just throwing it out. In fact, there's a financial disincentive in driving down the price of their product. Such is the absurdity of capitalism.

Africa could feed itself, but their governments are too corrupt and incompetent. Africa is a very wealthy continent with great soil, minerals and natural resources. It's just horribly mismanaged. Overpopulation isn't the reason for starvation in Africa.

Talking about how overpopulation is the problem is neo-Malthusian trash.

It's a very complicated matter, because the thing is, if all 7 billion people on earth consumed resources at the rate that America does, we'd run out of resources very fast. If all 7 billion consumed as much as the poor living in mud huts in Malawi, the earth could accommodate many more billions. We cannot have all 7 billion exhausting resources at the rate that we do in the west. It's probably not fair to say that overpopulation is causing climate change, it's more fair to say that industrialization is causing it. Because some of the fastest growing population on earth like India and Africa are dirt poor and people are living subsistence lifestyles and aren't consuming much in the way of resources.

The problem is going to happen when massive countries like China with 25% of the world's population start rapidly industrializing as they are now and spewing out mind boggling levels of greenhouse gas. Then we're going to be in trouble. As long as they were riding bicycles and living in squalor in rural villages, China's 1 billion+ population was not a threat to the climate, but now every one of them wants a new car and wide screen TVs and laptops just like the westerners do and this will be catastrophic for the environment.

I do believe in climate change, but I hope I'm wrong. I pray that the climate change deniers are right, because I'd rather believe man isn't the cause of climate change and that it's just a natural cycle. That way I can keep consuming guilt free and not worry about China now becoming the world's biggest greenhouse gas emitter. But you know what? I think the deniers are simply wrong. I hope they are right, but I don't think they are.

 

[Julius_Seizeher]

As an ardent capitalist and Patriot, it is with a heavy head that I give my endorsement for slowing population growth. It's a crying-ass shame, but let's get it done.

All the socialist diatribe in this post is to be flushed down the toilet where it belongs, for everything they believe in is contradicted by the Laws of Nature. Those who practice the age-old art of seeking to gain without giving, will forever inundate us with a tsunami of intellectual wanking and emotional manipulation as a means to rationalize their weakness.

You came into this world alone, you will go out of it alone, and whatever happens in between is up to YOU. To believe anything else, is to sabotage your own destiny.

Yet I am not without empathy for those who suffer, and I am tremendously in favor of helping people help themselves.

 

[speakeasy]

Not to change the subject, but John Lennon could've had damn near any woman he wanted. Why the hell did he choose Yoko???

I think this may be the most beta-looking photograph in history, something about it just creeps me out: http://www.hippiegoddess.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/john-and-yoko-al.jpghttp://www.blogalice.com/files/John%20and%20Yoko.JPG

 

[ENIGMA16]

Africa could feed itself, but their governments are too corrupt and incompetent. Africa is a very wealthy continent with great soil, minerals and natural resources. It's just horribly mismanaged. Overpopulation isn't the reason for starvation in Africa.

I agree for the most part, although I wouldn't lay the blame entirely on African corruption (and I doubt that you are, either).

It's a very complicated matter, because the thing is, if all 7 billion people on earth consumed resources at the rate that America does, we'd run out of resources very fast. If all 7 billion consumed as much as the poor living in mud huts in Malawi, the earth could accommodate many more billions. We cannot have all 7 billion exhausting resources at the rate that we do in the west. It's probably not fair to say that overpopulation is causing climate change, it's more fair to say that industrialization is causing it. Because some of the fastest growing population on earth like India and Africa are dirt poor and people are living subsistence lifestyles and aren't consuming much in the way of resources.

Talking about environmentalism in America is incredibly pointless when the vast majority of industrial production happens in countries with little to no environmental regulation (China, for example). The problem isn't industrialization, as it is perfectly possible (although very involved) to move towards cleaner forms of energy.

Haha I just read the rest of your post and you said exactly this. So nevermind.

I do believe in climate change, but I hope I'm wrong. I pray that the climate change deniers are right, because I'd rather believe man isn't the cause of climate change and that it's just a natural cycle. That way I can keep consuming guilt free and not worry about China now becoming the world's biggest greenhouse gas emitter. But you know what? I think the deniers are simply wrong. I hope they are right, but I don't think they are.

I think everyone wants us to be wrong about climate change, because who in their right mind would want it to be true? But even if you don't think it's happening, it's a very serious issue that shouldn't simply be dismissed.

I'm not going to address Julius Seizeher's post because I don't think it's appropriate for this forum to get into such a political discussion.

 

[theunflushables]

Not to change the subject, but John Lennon could've had damn near any woman he wanted. Why the hell did he choose Yoko???

I think this may be the most beta-looking photograph in history, something about it just creeps me out: http://www.hippiegoddess.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/john-and-yoko-al.jpghttp://www.blogalice.com/files/John%20and%20Yoko.JPG

Haha, I was about to say the same thing.

To go off topic a bit more, I'm working towards a photography major and we've talked about this photo. It's one of Annie Leibovitz's most famous and the thing is it wasn't even planned out. John just did it. You have to admit though, he did love her. He had to have, why else would you stay with someone so ugly?

 

[Quiksilver]

The population in industrialized countries is actually declining, when corrected for immigration.

It's only the exploited/indebted/third world countries who are kept poor by the World Bank/UN/IMF who are breeding like rabbits.

We all know how China's one child law is working. Natural populations are 52% male, 48% female. In China since it became law, population is now roughly 65% male, 35% female. 30% of guys there will never get married, and we all know it's the sexually frustrated AFCs that destroy the world.

The gap is greater in provinces that allow couples to have a second child if the first is a girl. Among second-born children, boys outnumbered girls by 143 to 100. The data is based on the 2005 census.

Most G8 nations have declining populations.

Most G20 nations have stable/declining populations.

Most G77 nations have rapidly expanding populations.