It's time, how to spot a fake high value male easily

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Disclaimer, there are high value men that make a living off of complaining about women, so I will give them the exception. For example, Rich Cooper, Kevin Samuels, and Coach Greg Adams are exceptions.

1) High value men associate with other high value people. If a guy claims to be high value, but is constantly making posts about toxic women, single moms, and etc then should tell you something. Jeff Bezos isn't over here worried about a single mom in Scottsville, West Virginia.

2) Subscribes to the Age pill philosophy of a woman's prime being 18-20. This makes sense if you live in Scottsville, West Virginia or Gary, Indiana because by the time a girl is 20 she has been knocked up, gained a lot of weight, stress from working constant nightshifts at Jakes Bar Diner as a single mom, and etc. Of course you're prime is going to be 18 lmao. Now lets switch to Beverly Hills or somewhere. If you live somewhere like this then you are used to seeing a lot of hotter women without kids well in to their 40s plain and simple. If this concept is extremely hard for you to understand then you are subtly telling me that you live in a lower income area or you just want to live with a bunch of retired boomers in Naples, Florida.

3) Is against pay to play/escorts- Rich men hire escorts, go to massage parlors, and etc all of the time. The only guys that are against this are too poor to afford any of this and have to compensate by saying I don't need to pay for sex or some bull ****. Most of singles 9s and 10s you see are escorts or selling their beauty in some shape or form. You over here thinking you are cute because you cold approached a 10 when this girl probably got paid 500 bucks to suck some married surgeon's dvck the night before.

 

[Plinco]

Evaluations are contextual. In other words, what you consider to be 'high value' depends on who you are. I think it's more useful to contrast someone who is confident vs someone who is arrogant. Otherwise you're just making a thread so you can attempt to project your own personal values.

 

[darksprezzatura]

The best way I know to spot a fake high value man is to become high value yourself.

Real recognises real, and fast.

 

[Plinco]

The best way I know to spot a fake high value man is to become high value yourself.

Real recognises real, and fast.

Confident spots arrogance.

 

[Serenity]

Why are you looking at men and interested in identifying them? Personally I'm into women.

Anyways, basically what the two posts above me states. It's the most obvious thing ever requiring zero thought when you're high value yourself.

 

[Velasco]

I actually don't think guys can spot fakes. Not unless it's very obvious. There's two categories of real ones. Those that are real and are actively participating in the sexual market value (like sargemaximus, LucianoD, and Zinc4). And those that are real but are non-active participants/retired to married life. That do offer good general/non-specific (because not an active participant in today's market) advice. They know who they are. The rest are alpha LARPers.

 

[Serenity]

I actually don't think guys can spot fakes. Not unless it's very obvious.

On the forum? No not always, text is a very limited form of communication. In real life? They'd have a hard time faking the things they don't even know I'm looking at because of their lack of experience. The words coming out of someones mouth is pretty far down on that list and most people really do suck at faking the subtleties of their physical movements.

 

[devilkingx2]

1) High value men associate with other high value people. If a guy claims to be high value, but is constantly making posts about toxic women, single moms, and etc then should tell you something. Jeff Bezos isn't over here worried about a single mom in Scottsville, West Virginia.

But even Hollywood celebrities make songs about gold diggers, hoes, etc.

I do agree with you that if a dude sounds like he meets all of his women in a trailer park he's probably not high value.

2) Subscribes to the Age pill philosophy of a woman's prime being 18-20. This makes sense if you live in Scottsville, West Virginia or Gary, Indiana because by the time a girl is 20 she has been knocked up, gained a lot of weight, stress from working constant nightshifts at Jakes Bar Diner as a single mom, and etc. Of course you're prime is going to be 18 lmao. Now lets switch to Beverly Hills or somewhere. If you live somewhere like this then you are used to seeing a lot of hotter women without kids well in to their 40s plain and simple. If this concept is extremely hard for you to understand then you are subtly telling me that you live in a lower income area or you just want to live with a bunch of retired boomers in Naples, Florida.

The guys saying a woman's prime is 18 probably just have a barely legal teens fetish.

But even here in NYC where I live there seems to be a sharp drop off of attractive women past 29 on OLD. Although it could just be that hot 30 year olds aren't single or are too old to know how to use Tinder.

3) Is against pay to play/escorts- Rich men hire escorts, go to massage parlors, and etc all of the time. The only guys that are against this are too poor to afford any of this and have to compensate by saying I don't need to pay for sex or some bull ****. Most of singles 9s and 10s you see are escorts or selling their beauty in some shape or form. You over here thinking you are cute because you cold approached a 10 when this girl probably got paid 500 bucks to suck some married surgeon's dvck the night before.

I thought it was that some guys think all they need is sex but then come to realize that they also want to be loved and validated which you won't get from paid sex unless she's also a trained actress.

Think about how even millionaires want to avoid gold diggers, just because they can afford to pay their price for a long time doesn't mean they want to be used for money right?

 

[SW15]

Subscribes to the Age pill philosophy of a woman's prime being 18-20.

lets switch to Beverly Hills or somewhere. If you live somewhere like this then you are used to seeing a lot of hotter women without kids well in to their 40s. If this concept is extremely hard for you to understand then you are subtly telling me that you live in a lower income area or you just want to live with a bunch of retired boomers in Naples, Florida.

I am not an age pill guy. Yes, an adult woman's physical prime is roughly 18-25. Plenty of 26-39 year old women do quite well in the mating environment, especially if they are childless and not overweight. 40-49 is a little dicier as I see it. There are plenty of women in their 40s that I find attractive. I found women in their 30s/40s attractive when I was 18-25. However, I preferred women my own age. I was a low value man between 18-25. The only reason I had sex with some older women (women 5+ years older than me) is that I was struggling to capture attention and attraction from women my own age.

I have lived in 2 of the 15 largest U.S. metros since I graduated college 15+ years ago. In both of those areas, there were plenty of attractive 30s/40s women.

You mention Naples, FL. Naples had a median age of 66 in 2019. I'd like to point out that women in their 50s & 60s now are even heavily pursued in the mating environment. Gray divorce (divorce at age 50+) has been increasing since at least 2000. In the mid-2010s, my mom was in her early 60s and was active on Match and OurTime (dating site for 50+ market). My mom's inbox was flooded then. My mom received more interest as a woman in her early 60s with grown children by using online dating sites than she did in high school as a high school cheerleader or in her early 20s. Without online dating websites, my mom would have faded into obscurity. She wasn't getting approached in-person much and her social circle hadn't been producing dates.

 

[Barrister]

Jake,

I’m genuinely curious why you feel this has any importance or relevance as far as picking up women. Considering this is a pickup forum for men to get women it doesn’t seem to hold any relevance as to men getting women.

That said - it’s easy to spot men in real life who have no game. Just listen to men speak to women and you generally can tell after no more than a minute or two. Now, I’m not sure you mean a man who understands game as being “high value.” Your categories seem to conflate different ideas into whether a man is high value or not. For instance, I think a man can be high value and be either for or against paying for escorts for many reasons. I don’t see there being any correlation.

 

[Modern Man Advice]

Disclaimer, there are high value men that make a living off of complaining about women, so I will give them the exception. For example, Rich Cooper, Kevin Samuels, and Coach Greg Adams are exceptions.

1) High value men associate with other high value people. If a guy claims to be high value, but is constantly making posts about toxic women, single moms, and etc then should tell you something. Jeff Bezos isn't over here worried about a single mom in Scottsville, West Virginia.

2) Subscribes to the Age pill philosophy of a woman's prime being 18-20. This makes sense if you live in Scottsville, West Virginia or Gary, Indiana because by the time a girl is 20 she has been knocked up, gained a lot of weight, stress from working constant nightshifts at Jakes Bar Diner as a single mom, and etc. Of course you're prime is going to be 18 lmao. Now lets switch to Beverly Hills or somewhere. If you live somewhere like this then you are used to seeing a lot of hotter women without kids well in to their 40s plain and simple. If this concept is extremely hard for you to understand then you are subtly telling me that you live in a lower income area or you just want to live with a bunch of retired boomers in Naples, Florida.

3) Is against pay to play/escorts- Rich men hire escorts, go to massage parlors, and etc all of the time. The only guys that are against this are too poor to afford any of this and have to compensate by saying I don't need to pay for sex or some bull ****. Most of singles 9s and 10s you see are escorts or selling their beauty in some shape or form. You over here thinking you are cute because you cold approached a 10 when this girl probably got paid 500 bucks to suck some married surgeon's dvck the night before.

Easy: You don't. You have better things to do with your time and energy.


Modern Man Advice

 

[SmoothSmooth]

Nothing high value about paying for sex
It’s the fact you are expressing your sexuality with the lowest quality and lowest class women in society (hookers and escorts). A pure move of desperation!

High status men prefer to interact with high status women, not women that anyone else can interact with for a price

That’s why most women would be completely turned off knowing that a man was visiting hookers and paying for sex…so it’s clearly not alpha. Alpha traits turn women on

 

[Velasco]

Didn't u say you were leaving here yesterday, Pan87?

 

[SmoothSmooth]

Didn't u say you were leaving here yesterday, Pan87?

It’s one of my New Years resolutions

 

[eli77]

This isn't all around form fitness money health so on and so forth we need to address this topic a lot of posters are there who don't know crap I've always said if you're a member of this forum your not a simp

 

[Bokanovsky]

1) High value men associate with other high value people. If a guy claims to be high value, but is constantly making posts about toxic women, single moms, and etc then should tell you something. Jeff Bezos isn't over here worried about a single mom in Scottsville, West Virginia.

You couldn't have possibly picked a worse example than Bezos...LOL. The woman he is dating right now is quite literally a toxic single mom. Dating her, so far, has resulted in Bezos: a) getting divorced and paying a $38 billion divorce settlement; b) having his naked pictures sold to the National Enquirer by his new girlfriend's brother; and c) being turned into a laughing stock when his girlfriend is shown on TV openly fawning over Leonardo DiCaprio.

2) Subscribes to the Age pill philosophy of a woman's prime being 18-20. This makes sense if you live in Scottsville, West Virginia or Gary, Indiana because by the time a girl is 20 she has been knocked up, gained a lot of weight, stress from working constant nightshifts at Jakes Bar Diner as a single mom, and etc. Of course you're prime is going to be 18 lmao. Now lets switch to Beverly Hills or somewhere. If you live somewhere like this then you are used to seeing a lot of hotter women without kids well in to their 40s plain and simple. If this concept is extremely hard for you to understand then you are subtly telling me that you live in a lower income area or you just want to live with a bunch of retired boomers in Naples, Florida.

You are so right. A woman's prime is 52. Just look at Bezos' girlfriend

3) Is against pay to play/escorts- Rich men hire escorts, go to massage parlors, and etc all of the time. The only guys that are against this are too poor to afford any of this and have to compensate by saying I don't need to pay for sex or some bull ****. Most of singles 9s and 10s you see are escorts or selling their beauty in some shape or form. You over here thinking you are cute because you cold approached a 10 when this girl probably got paid 500 bucks to suck some married surgeon's dvck the night before.

Tiger Woods, is that you?

 

[B80]

Nothing high value about paying for sex
It’s the fact you are expressing your sexuality with the lowest quality and lowest class women in society (hookers and escorts). A pure move of desperation!

High status men prefer to interact with high status women, not women that anyone else can interact with for a price

That’s why most women would be completely turned off knowing that a man was visiting hookers and paying for sex…so it’s clearly not alpha. Alpha traits turn women on

I know several men that do very well with women in general and still pay for escorts from time to time. Maybe they have weird kinks, or something.

Plenty of pro sportsmen, top level celebrities, businessmen etc have been with escorts/hookers despite also having long terms girlfriends/wives or known to be getting laid easily.

Yes, there are plenty of 'losers' that do it as well, but it's not always them.

Some on here say reason its frowned upon by society is that it takes away 1 of the main sources of power women have in attracting men.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

I know several men that do very well with women in general and still pay for escorts from time to time. Maybe they have weird kinks, or something.

Plenty of pro sportsmen, top level celebrities, businessmen etc have been with escorts/hookers despite also having long terms girlfriends/wives or known to be getting laid easily.

Yes, there are plenty of 'losers' that do it as well, but it's not always them.

Some on here say reason its frowned upon by society is that it takes away 1 of the main sources of power women have in attracting men.

How do you know top level celebrities do that? Do you know that as fact?
And 50+ year old celebrities don’t count

 

[Kotaix]

Those who preach the loudest have the most to hide.

Aaron Clarey repeats ad-nauseum the story of his banking days where all the guys who drove super expensive cars and looked like they were rich were all living off of loans and second mortgages of homes they didn't actually own. It was all smoke and mirrors. Guys who were genuinely rich drove beaters and dressed like your average joe.

Also, there is the current example of Jack Murphy who portrays himself as an alpha male life coach, but is actually into cuckoldry and pegging. And when confronted with the information, instead of owning it, he attacks everyone by slandering them and trying to get them cancelled, like a little b!tch.

 

[Velasco]

Also, there is the current example of Jack Murphy who portrays himself as an alpha male life coach, but is actually into cuckoldry and pegging. And when confronted with the information, instead of owning it, he attacks everyone by slandering them and trying to get them cancelled, like a little b!tch.

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