It's the clothes, stupid.

backbreaker

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Maybe it's just me. I'm sitting in starbucks. I'm looking dead at this woman.. probably a real life HB7. she's in her early 40's or a really bad late 30's. she's not "hot". if she was wearing anything other than what she has on i probably wouldn't give her the time of day looks wise. you can look at her untoned arms and see she hasn't seen the inside of a gym in years. she's not big, she's just not in shape.


However, she is rocking the **** out of this black dress and these red fvck me pumps. She's got some legs to kill for.

I think back to my dating process with my wife while i thought she was pretty enough to approach her obviously, and i liked her enough to go on a few days with her it wasn't until our 4th date, where we went out to a higher end restaurant and she was wearing a brown dress with some brown pumps that was the first time i did a double take looking at her.


When I was 21 years old I approached a girl that would in due time become my first adult LTR though at this time I didn't now this. I approached her at dillards trying to buy something for my dad for fathers day. she was cute, pleasant and i could tell she thought i was kinda cute so I asked for her number. I got it. But it's like eventually she forgot how cute she thought I was and started to flake out on me. I had just left the gym when I saw her. I wasn't in gym clothes but I wasn't dressed to the 9 either.


About 2 weeks later I go the same store trying to buy some cologne and I was getting ready to go out with friends that night and I was dressed to the 9 this time and I saw the same girl. She didn't even work in the cologne department she worked in the clothing department but she saw me and came up to me and gave me a hug and wouldn't leave my side. Then basically invited herself out to eat with me in the food court. Night and day difference. She told me in due time when we actually were dating that she thought i was cute at first but she saw me that day and she was like "damn he's fine as hell lol"



Clothes. Learn about them. Live them. Eat, Breathe style. A DJ who isn't fashion conscious is like a bodybuilder who doesn't use protein powder. Clothing and how you wear your clothes make a huge difference, rightfully or wrongfully in how you're perceived.


In real life, especially when I sit in a place like Starbucks and work I see a lot of interactions, most dudes don't have the faintest clue about style or how to put clothes together. (damn like right now this dude keeps starring at me it's kinda creepy lol)


So here are some pointers from your boy backbreaker. I'm not even going to tell you HOW to dress becuase everyone's style is different. But these are some universal tips


Iron your damn clothes


Either iron them or send them to the cleaners. I'm sitting in starbucks right now and there 6 men in here not including myself. There's only one man in this pale whose clothes aren't wrinkled as ****. The other 5 guys in the place look like they just took their **** straight out of the dryer and put it on. If this is some stuff I can notice, women notice. There is nothing cute about wrinkled ass clothes. It's sloppy and it's a turn off. It tells a woman you aren't worth ****.

Now I'm not big on creeses. I don't like the heavy starch look but even that's better than wrinkled as **** look. It least it shows you did something.

Better yet, Wash your damn clothes


Even better idea. Before you iron them... WASH THEM! I know. Groundbreaking stuff. Showing up with mustard stains and **** on your pants is not cute. Showing up somewhere with your clothes smelling stale is not cute.


If you have a gut, for the love of god stop wearing button down shirts

This isn't even a thread about going to the gym. IF you want to be fat hey, do your thing. But if you are going to be a fat fvck for the rest of your life please do your sex life a favor and stop wearing tight ass button down shirts that make your gut look like it wants to bust out of prison. Nothing screams "I don't give a **** about sex" like some 5'8 200 pound dude wearing a medium button down polo shirt that's tight as ****



Okay, if you are hell bent on wearing button down shirts, and you have a gut, invest in vests

Put a vest over the shirt. I'm looking at this dude right now with this wrinkled ass tight button down shirt on. If the guy would throw on a polo vest over the **** he would be at least, at least it would say 1. i put SOME thought into how I look and 2. it wouldn't be as obvious he's out of shape.


White guys, for the love of god stop putting all this **** in your hair

women laugh at you behind your backs. My wife told me she would never date a guy who uses more hair products than she does. No one wants to touch a guy with "gooey" hair. Your hair looks like some **** out of wal mart kid's isle.


Be Creative

I mean, try. Show some initiative. Show some form of original thought. For example, I like to wear white on white. Especially white chinos with a white polo. It's clean, it's not too far out there but it's not something you see everyday from everyone. It's just different enough to show I'm trying but not too far out there to say I'm trying too hard. Throw that on with a brown watch and I'm clean as hell.


A girl would rather date a cheap stylish guy than an expensive guy with no taste

Right now I'm wearing an off brand bright orange polo shirt with some brown khakis and some brown spurrys with a brown belt and a brown watch. outside the watch, this entire outfit cost about $15 dollars, I even got the spurrys at the goodwill store. And i'm the cleanest dude here.

It doesn't matter if you are wearing polo, Banana Republic, if you don't know how to wear it. Being able to to dress doesn't mean spending thousands of dollars on clothes necessary.

Invest in a kick ass iron and learn how to shop at thrift stores.
 

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backbreaker said:
White guys, for the love of god stop putting all this **** in your hair

women laugh at you behind your backs. My wife told me she would never date a guy who uses more hair products than she does. No one wants to touch a guy with "gooey" hair. Your hair looks like some **** out of wal mart kid's isle.
Still beats the "pubic hair on your head" look that most black dudes seem to spot. Nothing wrong with using hair products as long as you don't overdo it.

backbreaker said:
A girl would rather date a cheap stylish guy than an expensive guy with no taste
Most North American women have pretty poor taste in both clothing an accessories (think of your typical Britney Spears white trash type or Rihanna hood rat type). It's very rare to see an American woman who actually looks sexy and elegant (as opposed to slvtty and trashy). So I'm not sure how they are supposed to be the judges of good taste.
 

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Dear Backbreaker,

Haven't you learned by now that you are not allowed to say anything about white people or race? And in doing so the bulk of your message will be ignored? Best regards on your soon to be racial crapfest thread,

Warrior74

*ninja edit* It has already begun!
 

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samspade said:
You can get away with this only under the following circumstances:

1. You are Pat Riley.

or if you're in the mob
 

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What if I like to rub hair products on my pubic hair......is that acceptable to a master dj? I am white, but my pube's are black.
 

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backbreaker said:
White guys, for the love of god stop putting all this **** in your hair

women laugh at you behind your backs. My wife told me she would never date a guy who uses more hair products than she does. No one wants to touch a guy with "gooey" hair. Your hair looks like some **** out of wal mart kid's isle.
I think women are split on this about 50/50. On the one hand, girls seem to dislike the idea of a guy with product in his hair. On the other hand, girls seem to really like the spiked look on a guy. The odd thing is that to pull off the spiked look you about have to put some product in your hair.

One thing women dislike about product is that they hate the idea that a guy would put much effort into his hair - this is a turnoff to them for whatever reason. I guess they associate it with femininity. The funny thing is that a lot the time a guy can slap some product in his hair and style it with his fingers in no time at all, and he's put a lot less effort into it than a guy who's combed it out. Oh well.

Another thing they don't like about product is that it doesn't feel soft and clean when they run their fingers through it.

backbreaker said:
Right now I'm wearing an off brand bright orange polo shirt with some brown khakis and some brown spurrys with a brown belt and a brown watch.
Halloween colors, sounds appropriate.
 

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A DJ who isn't fashion conscious is like a bodybuilder who doesn't use protein powder.... now now now there are plenty of blokes that are massive!!! and they just eat their protein instead of paying exorbitant prices for a powder lol...

all that set aside... the best thing a man can do is create rapport with his local tailor, mens clothes store, even barber. for eg (and this goes against the thrift store idea of OP )... I have built up a good rapport with my local leather shop, it is just a single older italian bloke who owns and runs it on his own. Just through talking man to man with him shooting the breeze we have built a great rapport with each other. Just because we have a good chat whenever I am in there I don't need to look at sticker price on his wares, last year I purchased a cow hide ( not buffalo ) jacket from him sticker price $420 my price $340. A wallet to match the jacket purchased at a later date sticker $90 my price $60. Yesterday I needed a new belt Sticker price $ 70 my price $45.... sh!t man even my barber charges me $15 instead of the usual $20.

ok now that story time is over, style isn't hard when you know what to do but more importantly who to talk to. If you have a hard time with style and fashion ask for help be it one of your female friends ( except for your mum ) I even ask random ladies in the store " hey you look like you know what's good, what do you think of this?" even the store clerk. What do ladies like to do GIVE THEIR OPINION!!!! use this to your advantage!.

Your whole outfit doesn't have to cost hundreds to thousands but invest in some finer accessories to compliment the whole outfit like a nice watch or a simple but manly ring or even just a nice plain chain ( don't become flavor flav or Mr. T )
 

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Say what you will. I had my best success in jeans, t-shirt and a baseball hat. All the while not giving a fvck with what others thought. Chicks dug it.

Wear your vests, 5/30 in your hair and out a penny in your loafers. Ain't gonna change who you are.
 

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5string said:
Say what you will. I had my best success in jeans, t-shirt and a baseball hat. All the while not giving a fvck with what others thought. Chicks dug it.

Wear your vests, 5/30 in your hair and out a penny in your loafers. Ain't gonna change who you are.
while I absolutely agree with what you said, clothes don't make the man, the man makes the clothes and all that other stuff... yes I have had great success in a pair of ripped jeans, work boots and a plain black tee.... but that was with a completely different chick that I would pick up if I were wearing "classy" clothes.

You can't change who you are buy wearing different clothes? yes and no. if you are AFC then you are AFC if you are a DJ then you are a DJ and nothing is really going to change either way but for the drifters in between AFC and DJ a fresh set of clothes can boost confidence enormously. There seriously isn't anything like a nice tailored shirt :D haha
 

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All my best lays have come when I'm in jeans, boots or sambas, and a tshirt with a snappy saying or a band name.

Classy chicks mind you. Women are people by the way, not a computer program you nerdlingers need the correct binary code to create. Sometimes they want guys in tshirts and jeans too. Especially if the guy is fun and has the balls to talk to them.
 

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Dear Back Breaker,
Great Post Mate,but you missed out,as it is inconsequential to you,the shoes...they are the single most important article of your accoutrement! Not to us maybe,but for Women and I am blessed if I know why?
 

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^^ I could agree with that. a woman well anyone will look you up and down when they first see you. so you either need a hell good looking face or a crisp pair of shoes. because it is either of those two that will be seen first.

luckily I always have a nice pair of shoes on ;) haha
 

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backbreaker said:
White guys, for the love of god stop putting all this **** in your hair
women laugh at you behind your backs. My wife told me she would never date a guy who uses more hair products than she does. No one wants to touch a guy with "gooey" hair. Your hair looks like some **** out of wal mart kid's isle.
I know what you mean...this guy would never score right ???????
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White guys, for the love of god stop putting all this **** in your hair

women laugh at you behind your backs. My wife told me she would never date a guy who uses more hair products than she does. No one wants to touch a guy with "gooey" hair. Your hair looks like some **** out of wal mart kid's isle.


What is he talking about "white guys stop using all these hair products"?

This is the only hair product white guys need to use:

http://s2.folica.com/img/product/p/p8824/main-view/got2b-glued-styling-spiking-glue-350x350.jpg

It does the damned job. Stop worrying about what white guys do. The smart white guys are not marrying white women, they are marrying latinas. Unless getting your d!ck sucked every night, and her having a huge smile every time she sees you turns you off.
 
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