It's better to be on the blue pill

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I remember life being so much enjoyable when I was in High School and my early years of college. After I swallowed the red pill due to my apparent racial disadvantage in college, things went ****. It was literally a dark age haha. The worst year was junior year which sucked and started reflecting on my personality. After I discovered that I could easily get pucci that didn't go to my school, I started to de-redpillize. Now, I am like 45% blue and the rest red. My frat brothers are saying I am acting better now and I am trying to avoid any toxic people in my life. In addition, my confidence and motivation are a lot higher than before.

Furthermore, this site was never red pill when I discovered it. It pretty much told us to snap out of the disney princess girl mentality and how to talk to them. Nothing toxic at all lol. Utilize sloots for what they are and date the good ones.
 
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Snapping out of the Disney princess mentality is the red pill... All that analyzing and trying to understand the female mind is the red pill.

I think that ultimately, you stopped being angry at the nature of women and learned to pick them up. It has nothing to do with you being a blue pill dude.

And to be honest, who wants to be oblivious to how girls operate and play game sometimes ? You want to be the guy who tries so hard but don't go anywhere with the girl ? Or be the shoulder to cry on when that girl (that you secretly love) had a fight with her boyfriend and you can't even give her some mean pipe ?

Exactly no.

If you don't know any better you can learn, but saying that it would of been better to be ignorant about the reality of females is sad.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
If you struggled to get pvssy you were not fully red pill
I don't think that's necessarily true. Red pill refers mainly to your perception of reality, I don't think it necessarily reflects a skill level. Isn't it possible to perceive reality correctly but still be socially awkward? Some people haven't built their skills, either for lack of practice or not making it a priority. For example, what if a guy is focused on building his business instead of working on women?
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
But its not that difficult to get pvssy. It is a very, very low standard. We are not talking about seducing high value women, just pretty much ANY woman. How can you struggle to "get pvssy" when you have depedestalized women to such an extent that you are now "red pill". If you are still scared of women then you are not red pill.
Maybe such a person doesn't want to settle for just "any pvssy". Maybe the guy is awkward with people in general, not just women. Maybe he doesn't have much going for him as far as SMV goes. Maybe he doesn't have much experience yet. I don't think being red pill automatically makes you a DJ.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
If you are still scared of women then you are not red pill.
Can you eloborate on this? I am anxious with high status highly attractive women.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
If you struggled to get pvssy you were not fully red pill
Yet I see so many blue pills/betas with women while yall whine on subreddits.
 

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I just don't see how swallowing the red pill significantly increases your Sexual Market Value. In order to do that, you have to make improvements. If it worked like you are suggesting, that sounds like a magic pill.

Depedestalizing women is good, although that assumes you had women on a pedestal in the first place. And anyway, it doesn't change the logistics any. Pedestal or no pedestal, an attractive young women is going to have lots of men around her and lots of options. Not being afraid of women doesn't *poof* automatically make you her best option, or the highest value guy in the room.

What if you're a fat 300 lb. guy? You can swallow the red pill as much as you want, but if you want to do well with women, you're going to have to lose weight, and that is going to take time and effort. You're not going to accomplish that from reading a forum.

Besides, who wants low quality sh!tty pvssy?
 

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IMO the blue pill means calm and relaxed red pill angry and disgruntled. Ill take the blue pill.
 

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9Volt said:
IMO the blue pill means calm and relaxed red pill angry and disgruntled. Ill take the blue pill.
That's just your interpretation of colors genius.....
 

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9Volt said:
IMO the blue pill means calm and relaxed red pill angry and disgruntled. Ill take the blue pill.
Ignorance is bliss.

Living in lala land is all fun and games until it isn't. The entire reason some men end up swallowing the red pill is because they had one reality check too many. The blue pill is fantasy land. Fantasy land is fun until reality hits you in the face. And since reality is a constant.. you can't really hide from it. The best you can do is live in denial.. which is what most blue pillers do.

Good luck.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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ImTheDoubleGreatest! said:
That's just your interpretation of colors genius.....

The appeal of the Red Pill ethos is simple; it’s all about taking someone who feels they have little power and convincing them that they have the only way to get power.

Let’s be honest: dating can be scary. You’re deliberately making yourself vulnerable to another person. When you get rejected, it can feel as though you are being judged on your entire existence. Many men, especially those who are socially inexperienced or just plain awkward, see each rejection as unfair or unnecessarily cruel; they believe that they should be given a chance to prove their desirability. Others feel that the universe has stacked the deck against them; only certain men are able to get women and this is inherently not fair.

In the Red Pill world, it’s true: only certain men get laid: alpha males, According to the Red Pill philosophy, 20% of the men fvck 80% of the women. Don’t worry about the fact that this is mathematically impossible, it feels true and that’s the important part. So when someone is feeling like he’s been cheated by life, that it’s unfair that other people have an easier time getting dates or getting laid, the Red Pill ethos is there to validate those feelings. “You’re right,” says the Red Pill community, “It is unfair. You’re being denied something that is rightfully yours. You should take it back!”

It’s a classic recruitment technique, one used by hate groups for centuries: prey on someone’s insecurities and fears. Tell them that they’ve been wronged and then tell them “this is how you get to be strong.” Give them an enemy and tell them “this is why things are so bad for you. They’ve hurt you. They’ve wronged you. Don’t you want power over them?” They offer secret knowledge, helping you “wake up to see the real world”, unlike all those blue pill manginas. By being a Red Pill man, you’re proving yourself superior to others. You know things that other people don’t. You’re special. Not like those other people. The world of the Red Pill is one of “us vs. them”. An alpha fvcks, a beta bucks, bro. Other guys are manginas, average frustrated chumps (because you’re not average or a chump, bro) or “white knights” – poor, deluded men who think that being nice to women will get them laid. Not like you, Red Pill devotee; you know the truth.

To someone who’s always felt like they lack control or who has low self-esteem, being told “no, you’re a god among insects” is intoxicating. You were weak, but now you’re strong. You’ve been given the secret of being Alpha – now you can be one of the guys who gets the women instead of the guy getting used. They’ll back it up with pseudo-science and evo-psych that sounds legit – after all, it’s confirming what you already believe. Don’t worry that “alpha” and “beta” doesn’t actually exist in nature; that’s just white knights trying to Nice Guy their way to pvssy. Don’t worry that all you’re doing is masking insecurities instead of actually addressing your issues. Do alpha male sh1t, get pvssy, bro!

But the Red Pill philosophy does more than offer the illusion of strength. It offers you an enemy to get revenge on.

“ANTI-SEX JUSTIFIES MY HATE!”

The dark side1 of the Red Pill is that it’s not about being a better man; it’s about hating on women. If you look at the statement of principles on TheRedPill, you may notice something: there’s nothing in there about men. It’s all about how awful women are, not about how to be a better man; you get 19 bullet points about how women are the villain before you get to whining about how much it sucks to be male in this world. Moreover, when you go through the Red Pill, you’ll find plenty on why women are awful, why you should never date American women, how women are cheating men out of their wealth, why women are sh1t and where a woman’s true value lies. You’ll see lay reports explaining why the best thing you can do is make a woman fear for the state of your relationship.

You aren’t going to see anything about, say, how to be a better father. Nothing about being a pillar of your community. Nothing about being a better man. Just reasons why women are b1tches and why The Red Pill is the Light, The Truth and the Way.

And there’s a reason for that. As long as you have an enemy, you have someone to hate. As long as you have an enemy, you have someone to blame. And as long as you have someone to blame, you have a justification for hurting them. And let’s be honest: when you’re bitter about the fact that women don’t like you, there’s a part of you that relishes the idea of making them pay for it. Most of us recognize that impulse for what it is: a little dark whim born out of anger that quickly passes. But part of the appeal of the Red Pill is that it stokes that anger. It encourages you to feel it, to indulge in it. Women are inferior to you – why do you let them treat you like sh1t? It’s ok to abuse her; secretly, she really likes it. It’s ok to take what you want – you’re a man, you’re an alpha and this is what alphas do.
Of course, when you take that logic to its natural ends, you end up with people laughing over date rape accusations and advocating for domestic abuse as a relationship maintenance technique and why it’s ok to smack a woman around.

There comes a point in everyone’s life where they have to stop and take stock. And sometimes that picture isn’t pretty. The Red Pill ethos is seductive because it plays on a person’s desire to be special, to be told that he’s uniquely special. It validates both his victimhood and his anger. It casts the world as your enemy – a world of hypergamous, emotional slvts, jealous AFCs and pitiful manginas, all of whom are conspiring to bring you down because they resent you just that much. Admitting that you’re wrong, that you’ve been tricked, is hard… even more so when you have to acknowledge just how much damage you’ve done to others.

The Red Pill ethos is predicated on misdirection; as long as the person is distracted, they never notice the flaws in the logic. Once you stop and actually examine it, it crumbles like a sandcastle at high tide. When you strip away the gaslighting and the abuse, Red Pill tactics just don’t work. It’s Dumbo’s magic feather, if that feather kept whispering in your ear that all women were wh0res. What does a man do that really worked? He started eating right, dressing better, working out, making new friends, becoming his BEST self and actually asking women out. Everything else in the Red Pill philosophy leads to abusing every woman in their life and chasing them all away.

The problem isn't that men can't relate to women without the red pill, it’s that they can’t relate to them with it.

Men need to find positive relationship role-models in their lives – people in happy, equitable relationships, not ones predicated on abuse and manipulation. You get what you put out to the world.
 

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The thing is though, the manosphere isn't about complaining to get followers. Some places are like that, but red pill specific tell these men to man up. They don't tolerate b!tching and complaining. The problem is that as more men find out about it, more men are going to be negative about it too. And you can't exactly LOVE women after understanding them better and finally waking up which is why a lot of guys are bitter. You can hate them much more easily now. I personally don't hate them. They make the world MUCH more colorful IMO. I just hate how when they say they are oppressed and manipulate others (but then again, I hate it when MEN manipulate others too). I hate how they have it easier and have more rights but don't do anything extremely meaningful or useful with those rights.

All I can do is not participate in it and keep my pride within myself to stop me from being a slave. And thus think freely and live happily because of it.

The manosphere is only about getting better with women. Nothing else really. That's why I don't completely consider SoSuave as apart of the manosphere: there is info about self-improvement.TheRedPill is to open your eyes about how women NATURALLY manipulate and control. Notice how I said naturally? They rarely ever do it consciously because it's in their nature to do so. And it's about getting better with women. Not hating them OR loving them. They provide you with the info, and you choose your perception.

Not only that, but they don't talk about how it is a disadvantage being a man. Being a man has its con's and pros, but what matters aren't the advantages or disadvantages society has given/placed on either sex. What matters are the primal and natural advantages men have over women. Men are physically stronger and tougher than women. This is obvious. But the greatest gift of all about being a man is that you have this natural drive within you to do great things, to be the best that you can be. We have this will that makes us extremely ambitious and allows us to accomplish amazing feats in any and every category of life. And because of this determination, men will always be the greater sex. Because we have the will to succeed.

Don't consider me sexist or anything like that because I'm not. It's just that when you think about it logically, we are the ones who have built this society on which women live off of. Had it not been for us, women would cease to exist. And this is because real men are leaders.

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The women in my life at the moment want to "fire it up!" They dope smokers, 2 of em fat, one of em thin. They see after being around me for 3 months that whatever they wanna do, I say they're FREE to do. This is America. It's this "You're Free to do" and my playfulness with them that make them just wanna fvck my BODY, not necessarily my mind. If they feel Absolutely comfortable standing naked in front me EVEN THOUGH they clothed, over Time, then what's to stop them from actually grabbing me as much as they can and stripping in front of me?...while High, of course.

Now a Quality woman, sure, you need more innocence or "blue" pill. It's hard to be "innocent" when you done so many bad deeds though, like I have.
 
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