Isn't this a contradiction of terms?

[Eternal_water]

Ok so one thing I have heard is the biggest issue is guys don't even approach girls cos they think they have no chance and thats the biggest mistake.

So you have to approach girls in order to get them.

Girls don't like nice guys cos they are too bland/easy/dull whatever and they like the bad boys cos they are exciting and a challenge.

So you have to be a challenge for girls to want you.


How do you approach and yet be a challenge at the same time? Surely by approaching a girl in the first place you are no longer a challenge cos just by doing so you are announcing your intentions and you put the ball in her court

 

[Chamber36]

Well when you approach a girl you still have to screen her to see if she suits your needs. You still need to probe her to see what kind of personality she's got.

So in short, you approach and you qualify the girl. You can touch to see how she reacts, or ask a question.

Just because you approach a girl doesn't mean you want to stick ur tongue in her vagina.

And remember: women are always less invested in the first initial interactions. You need to turn them on if you want them to get invested.

 

[Leopold]

true but never offer yourself to her.

You are there because you are interested on knowing more of her or just for plain fun. Its your job to switch roles up and make them be the ones to prove themselves to you.

Never give up your power. You have to be in control. Dont reward her for bad actions nor for doing absolutely nothing (just because she's pretty that's not good enough).

You have to create this mindset that you are interested but she's nothing really special and you can always walk away. Once she detect this... she'll try to keep you and prove herself and follow your lead. If not and she's vtchy then she wasn't for you to begin with.

 

[Chamber36]

It also works very well to disqualify yourself.

Saturday I said to a girl: "you look really good, but I'm only telling you that because I'm about to go home". It can trigger attraction switches when you compliment them and disqualify yourself, letting them know you have no intentions. Makes them very curious.

Once you do that you can expect a ****-test, so if she asks you something it's best not to even answer the question lol.

 

[Iceberg]

How do you approach and yet be a challenge at the same time? Surely by approaching a girl in the first place you are no longer a challenge cos just by doing so you are announcing your intentions and you put the ball in her court

Just because a girl knows that I'm attracted to her doesn't mean that she's guaranteed to keep me.

If I can simplify the game, I think that men chase multiple sexual partners and women seek to keep one high quality sexual partner. Of course there are exceptions to every rule...but this is how I see it.

So let's say I'm a high quality guy who's approaching a girl. She knows I'm attracted to her. But she also knows that as a high quality guy, other women will want me. I could show that I'm attracted to Girl A....and then 30 minutes later, talk to Girl B in the same bar/club/party. I'm still a challenge, right?

So by displaying my attraction to her, I'm not saying, "I instantly want to be your boyfriend." I'm saying, "I want to get to know you, enjoy you physically, and possibly...if you earn it...take things down a more long-term path."

Just because a woman has a high quality man's attention doesn't mean she's guaranteed to keep it. A high quality man has multiple options, and can go out on any night of the weekend and express his attraction to dozens of girls.

The only time you're sacrificing power in this dynamic is when you're dedicating lots of time to the woman. When you're with her 4 days a week, and texting her the other 3, which displays that you actually DON'T have many options, and that you're actually not the rare catch that she thought you were.

The challenge for the woman isn't getting me. It's keeping me.

 

[r0cky]

You can be friendly and still be a challenge. Its what pick up is based on.