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I'm about 6'2 and roughly 150lbs. I know, pretty skinny. I really want to get bigger arms and all I have is a 20lbs dumbell. Basically, what I do almost every night is lift until I can't go anymore for both arms before I go to bed. Is this essentially useless?
 

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After a point, yes, since then you will just be increasing that muscle's stamina after a point and then pointless.
 

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Eat like a sumo wrestler... than use your body weight to put on muscle
 

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Fat guys actually have the benefit when it comes to muscle, as it is easier for a fat guy to build muscle than a completely skinny guy (or so Ive been told). But not impossible. I don't recommend lifting weghts and your own and then go to bed...you will achieve basically nothing...or at least nowhere near to the point where you want to reach,

Get a trainer for this. I just started last week. i am by no means skinny or fat, but having some muscle won't hurt. :p I feel great since I've started with a personal trainer. He won't let me stop for an entire hour, but I actually feel that work is happening. Either find a body builder's program and do it on your own if you can, or find a personal trainer.
 

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Aestheticly said:
I'm about 6'2 and roughly 150lbs. I know, pretty skinny. I really want to get bigger arms and all I have is a 20lbs dumbell. Basically, what I do almost every night is lift until I can't go anymore for both arms before I go to bed. Is this essentially useless?
Well, if you keep doing it and it doesn't work. What makes you think that if you do it more it will work better?


And at 150lbs you want bigger arms? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

You can't do THAT!!

In order to have bigger arms you have to have bigger chest. In order to have bigger chest you have to have bigger legs, in order...... you get the idea.

Bodybuilders have HUGE arms. at least 22". Do you see them only doing curls in the gym? NO.

They do squats, lunges, deadlifts, weighed chinups, weighed pullups, bench, cleans, bent over rows....

They are big overall. You cannot have BIG arms without a big everything else. It all grows. And if anyone tells you otherwise, you're wasting time, energy, and precoius, precious protein.

You can get your arms a little bigger than the rest of your body by doing "isolation" exercises, but they will only get a bit bigger compared to the rest. And my guess is that is the case with you. You're only doing arms and they got as big as your body will allow. Your arms will NOT get bigger until you put some muscle on the rest of you. (why they don't get bigger is not for this post, but I will explain in depth if you request)


My suggestion? Get DeFranco's Westside for skinny bastards program. It's free, it's on his site. I'm using it and its awesome. (don't get any ideas though, I'm no twiggy bastard)

Joe DeFranco, meathead: http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/archive/articles_westside.htm
 
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snobby said:
Fat guys actually have the benefit when it comes to muscle, as it is easier for a fat guy to build muscle than a completely skinny guy (or so Ive been told). But not impossible. I don't recommend lifting weghts and your own and then go to bed...you will achieve basically nothing...or at least nowhere near to the point where you want to reach,

Get a trainer for this. I just started last week. i am by no means skinny or fat, but having some muscle won't hurt. :p I feel great since I've started with a personal trainer. He won't let me stop for an entire hour, but I actually feel that work is happening. Either find a body builder's program and do it on your own if you can, or find a personal trainer.
Yeah, OR get some knowledge about this THEN find a personal trainer. There are alot of sh*thead trainers and if you have a general knowledge base about what works and what doesn't and why, you will be able to find yourself a good quality trainer.


Otherwise you're going to waste your time doing cardio and 4 different bicep curls to "build muscle".
 

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your arms will grow just fine as long as the rest of your body does too, but some direct arm work is necessary if you want to compete (unless you're gifted). otherwise biceps are only good for loading up the squat bar :D

otherwise I agree, squats, deadlifts, rows, pullups etc will get you bigger arms than any amount of curls or pushdowns

train arms very low volume (1 set, maybe 2 at most), high reps (10-15/20)
 

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Want to workout and get a better body? Don't have access to weights? Take the advice above, and check into bodyweight training.

My favorite guy is Ross Enamait. His books are awesome, and despite what some may say, bodyweight training can be a wonderful way to build a strong body. He's also a standup person, and will respond to personal emails. There are a couple of hucksters out there peddling bodyweight training materials :):cough:: Matt Furey :: cough::). Avoid them. Go with Ross.

These workouts can be a real *****. And they are effective.

If I were to recommend one of Ross' books, I'd say you should begin with The Underground Guide To Warrior Fitness.

It's a great resource. Check it out.
 

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Would push ups and crunches be a feasible option or is it not enough weight on my arms? I'd really prefer not to get so specific with it (as in a proper diet and devoting a lot of my time to it). I'd also like not to have to visit a gym and just work out from home.
 

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Aestheticly said:
I'd really prefer not to get so specific with it (as in a proper diet and devoting a lot of my time to it). I'd also like not to have to visit a gym and just work out from home.

And i would like to be given money without working.
 

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Ross Enamait looks good. Also check out Pavel Tsatsouline materials. His kettlebell training stuff looks hardcore. http://www.powerbypavel.com/ This guy is not big by any measure, so if you really want big puffy soft muscle then go ahead and do 100 reps with your 20lb dumbell. If you want strength, then go with Pavel.
 
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Yo...

I'll tell you my 2 cents on this shyt.

20 lbs dumbbell is kinda light...

so if you are lifting until "you can't go anymore"...that tells me one thing..

You're throwing down too many reps. Look, if you're looking to get some mass..you need to get your punk azz to WalMart and buy bigger weights. When you are doing "as many reps" as you can with a light weight, you will actually lose weight. When I try to get women to lose weight..I tell them to do high reps with a low weight...you're doing that shyt right now.. You need to get heavy weights and do LOW reps...because when you are "burning yourself out" with a low weight...you are losing mass (but getting more definition)

Look...you need to STOP WORRYING about the WAY you are working out...and you need to focus on EATING.

If you are small framed, you SHOULD weigh...
155-168

If you are medium framed, you should weigh..
164-178

If you are large framed, you should weight...
172-197


And i disagree with brucevange
His quote:

They are big overall. You cannot have BIG arms without a big everything else. It all grows. And if anyone tells you otherwise, you're wasting time, energy, and precoius, precious protein.
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You CAN get BIG arms...even though you aren't working out everything else. I've seen people who have huge arms but small shoulders and weak legs. I've seen guys with a huge chest...but a weak back...so they slump forward. You CAN get BIG arms and still be unbalanced....but it's not recommended.

I agree with Bruce..in the fact that a body will look STRANGE...when you have big arms and nothing else....

BUT...

it is possible :D



Anyways....a long story short. Eat more! Don't do high reps with low weights. Do low reps with heavy weights. Go to walmart and buy some heavier weights...or get a deal at a gym.
I have seen guys with decent arms and small everything else.. but big arms? Not likely. I'd like an example if you could.

As for the chest example, yeah a large chest is easy to build with some discipline and basic knowledge. It's one of the most easiest muscles to build if not the easiest.
 

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brucevangeorge said:
As for the chest example, yeah a large chest is easy to build with some discipline and basic knowledge. It's one of the most easiest muscles to build if not the easiest.
I find that actually to be true, my chest grew like a weed even though my press strength was/is embarrassing..
 

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Espi said:
You're doing what so many males do when starting training: OVERTRAINING your biceps.

#1. To grow you need to eat...a lot. Consume between 1-2 grams of protein per lb. of bodyweight, 16-20 calories per lb. of bodyweight. Don't worry about eating clean. Go to MacDonalds 2-3 times a week and eat as much as you can.

#2. You need to incorporate a solid full-body workout. Squats grow the upper body. Also, the triceps cmprise 2/3 of the upper arm region. If you don't work your tri's, you're not gonna get big arms.

Throw away the dumbbells and join a gym.
I already eat a lot of fast food so I could at least get fatter. Is there any type of exercises I can do at home instead of having to go to a gym?
 

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I'm gonna say this again: if you don't know the right way to exercise, then don't exercise at all.

Like I said, either get a personal trainer or sign up to a gym and ask them for a program.
 
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