Is there someone who have succeeded in email seduction?

[micams]

The scenario is quite common:
u managed to have the email but the girl refuses to give u the phone because she doesn't know u enough, or any other reason.
How do u make the seduction progress with email?
I've searched on the internet and I've found that's this problem is very common and I've not found any clear nor interesting strategy.
The common pattern is no response to the first mail, and sometimes one disinterested "Thanks but no thanks" answer after the second mail when that one is a humoristic challenging well crafted message.
So the key really seems to be the first email. I've read that one possible way for the first mail is to be humorous-light hearted even poetic but never sentimental nor heavy. I'll be trying this one but I'm not so sure about my actual implementation of the strategy.
Others, generally females claim that the best way to go is to be really sincere and admirative about the girl and to make no doubt about you liking her. I'm a little skeptical about this one and especially the exact way to do it in the real world without sounding needy or validation-giver with nothing in return.
So is there someone here who have really succeeded with email seduction and what kind of mail have u written? U can also share what u found that doesn't work as it will help us all in finding the answer.

 

[Climax]

yeah, i got one...

I live in South Africa... About a year ago I got a girls email address from a friend of mine from Australia. She lives in Australia too. All I had was her email address.

One day I was really bored and decided to email her. About a week later I got a reply... Several weeks after that I got her to send me cards, and got her to want to come to South Africa just to meet me....

I have a gf now, and I told her that... Since then its the occasional email here and there, but ya, that’s about it... Email/IM/etc seduction is sh!t. Why spend hours typing sh!t out to some girl when you can be using that time to go OUT and meet girls in REAL LIFE and have many more successes?

Anyways, that’s my "email story"


Laterz...

 

[micams]

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U know I really like challenges and the fact that I'm not good enough at this email seduction thing is driving me nuts.
I really want to improve.
Besides as I'm searching for a specific type of girl (specific religion), internet dating for me is really important: on some sites I have a lot of the exact kind of girls I want. So if I manage to improve my email/online game, it will serve me a lot.
Besides, David D says, and I agree with him on that, that offline and online dating skills complement each other ie when u start to become good at one u can try to transfer the skill onto the other and vice versa. I have now a descent level of confidence(although not always stable) and of offline PU. I have read and studied a lot of material including NLP, psychology, seduction, persuasion, etc.
So I feel now that I'm ready to really increase my online dating skills and I'm sure that a lot of guys here are also interested.
Online is particularly interesting for beginners shy guys and intermediate PUAs(like me) who are interested by a specific kind of girls that are far most easy to find online in one big site that trying to find them in real life.

 

[Climax]

Thumbs up to you... each to his own i guess

U know I really like challenges and the fact that I'm not good enough at this email seduction thing is driving me nuts.
I really want to improve.
Besides as I'm searching for a specific type of girl (specific religion), internet dating for me is really important: on some sites I have a lot of the exact kind of girls I want. So if I manage to improve my email/online game, it will serve me a lot.
Besides, David D says, and I agree with him on that, that offline and online dating skills complement each other ie when u start to become good at one u can try to transfer the skill onto the other and vice versa. I have now a descent level of confidence(although not always stable) and of offline PU. I have read and studied a lot of material including NLP, psychology, seduction, persuasion, etc.
So I feel now that I'm ready to really increase my online dating skills and I'm sure that a lot of guys here are also interested.
Online is particularly interesting for beginners shy guys and intermediate PUAs(like me) who are interested by a specific kind of girls that are far most easy to find online in one big site that trying to find them in real life.

As much as I dont agree with the whole online dating thing, I wish you the best of luck


Laterz...

 

[biker_gixxer]

I've had allot of success with email seduction, even with b*tchy women who are in relationships. These women may same like tough nuts to crack, but it's allot easier than you think.

Here's one trick I like to use...

I say very, very little in my emails and I never compliment. I've used this technique countless times with great success. They are typing paragraphs asking me all kinds of questions and I'm shooting back with a sentence or two, just enough to bait them for the next email. Once I have sucked them into my world, into my reality, then I get the number (if i want it). But, there is a way you ASK for the number that will determine the outcome.

Send me an example email you typically use and I'll see if I can help.

 

[everywomanshero]

She wouldn't give you the # because she's not interested. If she were into a guy, she'd give him anything he wanted. Don't believe me? Assuming you seduced her online, create another profile but put a 9.x on there. Go to hotornot and rip some photos. Now, create a cool profile for this guy. If you know things she responds to not just what she claims to like, use it. Try to run tight game and you should now get her #.

Try to seduce her by email best you can. If you're ready to give up, tell her you almost forgot what her # was. Chances ae she's given it out enough she won't remember for certain that you didn't get it too. Last ditch effort. There is several guides to email seduction. One was written by that nerd Formhandle from mASF. I don't really have any faith in his advice, but as much time as he appears to spend online he ought to have this one

 

[micams]

answer to everywomanshero

I believe u that her IL is low to middle, but I also believe that I have some possibility to increase her IL with a well written first email. That's why I brainstorm in finding a good one.
I've read Formhandle's guide, it's not bad but for me not good enough as I've tried to implement in the past what he teaches without much higher success.
Right now, I'm trying to use the advice from Greene's Art Of Seduction; in particular it's advice on seducing her with words and also the victim's type identification strategy and the customization to follow after that identification.
For me, the target is a New Prude and Coquette(ie she plays the hard to get offended virgin) and according to Greene, the best seducer type is Rake(ie u overwhelm her with desire and lure her with adventure and excitement). The problem is that my natural archetype is Ideal Lover, so I'm trying to mix the Rake traits with my natural Ideal Lover type.
Following this analysis my first email should be quite heated and suggestive but in the other hand, Greene preaches that the first email should not be heated nor suggestive only poetic and light hearted.
So I'll think I'll do a kind of moderately heated mail filled with humor.

 

[everywomanshero]

I don't really know how to proceed. I have some ideas of what I'd do but I don't know if it is going to work on a not. I don't put much energy into online shyt, I just throw something out there and they take the bait or not. I don't ever try to seduce one specific woman online really. There's so many, I just move on if one doesn't work really fast.

You could try sending her parts of an interesting story,enough to hook her, and she has to respond to get the rest. I don't know how far into this you already are but thats a good online "opener".

I've had so much shyt work, but for everytime something works there is 10 times it doesn't work bcause it's a dead profile or gets spam filtered or she just doesn't respond for whatever reason. Online is easy to get ONSs because of the numbers if you have even a little game. However, specific women is very unreliable or maybe I just don't put enough energy into it to figure the riddle completely out. Experiment. If she meets you there is an extremely high probability of ONS, I'd say 80-90% in my experience.

I just know you need to get her infront of you where you can display body language, use kino, eye contact, full range of visuals and sounds, all the good shyt that seperates you from a zillion other guys who she could be bothered by. Online we are more limited in our tools. That's good for newbies, but I think you have enough game that you're better off in person than over the Internet.

 

[micams]

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I finally decided to just send a little poem filled with sensory language and gives how I've perceived her and her personnality.

 

[OrioleMagic]

What country/region of women are you interested in? I think a good idea would be to become an expert in that area/region. Also, LDRs suck, so make contact with 3 or 4 prospects and visit them all on the same visit. Lets say you are visiting this country for 8 days, send 2 days each with each woman. Try to make sure they are not next door neighbours. I would also make sure that they are willing to have sex when you come over there. If you are corresponding with them for months and they aren't willing to give it up when you get over there, what kind of b!tch is she going to be in a relationship.