Is the culture of men having the idea that women are "peaking in attractiveness at 18" "deeply predatory" & "incredibly toxic"?

[MatureDJ]

I was reading this rant from whom I presume is a "seasoned woman", and it got me interested:

https://www.themarysue.com/online-dating-sexism-racism/

Men are seen as peaking in desirability at age 50, and the higher their education/degree is, the more attractive they are. On the other hand, while an undergrad degree is acceptable, a woman in postgraduate work is seen as less desirable.

There’s so many layers of grossness surrounding male expectations of women here that it’s hard to figure out where to begin to unpack them. The idea of a woman peaking in attractiveness at 18 is deeply predatory and frightening. It perpetuates the harmful idea of “barely legal” women being preyed upon by older men, as well as the fact that their only desirable factor is their youth, and that they’ll decrease in “value” the older they get. This is an incredibly toxic idea to pass on to young women, who need to be shown that their worth does not solely exist in their physical attractiveness and that they are not going to become somehow lesser as they age.

BTW, she also rants how it is racist for folks to put down racial preference in the bio. THE NERVE

my opinion:

 

[Chev.Chelios]

kate gardner..

already safe to say she's unattractive because women who are attractive are to busy instagraming and enjoying their life rather then analysing internet stats of why her dating life is so chitty and she's mad because nobody's wants to kiss her ass for her looks

 

[EyeBRollin]

I’ve said in multiple threads I don’t think 18 is peaking in attractiveness. Physical attractiveness is also only one piece of the pie. I’d rate peak female physical attractiveness at 20-25, and peak female desirability at 25-29. A good analogy is summer in the Northern Hemisphere. Peak daylight and solar radiation is on June 21, but it takes another 4-6 weeks for things to warm up to reach peak temperatures.

Likewise, in Western Society women are simply not mature mentally or emotionally at the ages of peak attractiveness. It takes a few years of life experience for things to take shape. By 30 they’re over the hill in the looks department which makes late 20s the ideal age.

As for race, racism is certainly prevalent in dating but it’s not all bad. There’s a different between preferences and exclusion. Racism would be saying “I think only <insert race> can be attractive. All others are ugly.” Saying you prefer one race over others isn’t the same statement.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Personally I find them being in the best spot in their early 20s altough some of them cleary start to worsen really early but that has more to do with their life habits rather than biological programming.

When it comes of women in their 30s thats biology, nothing they can do about it unless they have a solid foundation and a good genetics.
They smell different and taste different than younger ones.

When it comes of men I dont buy the peak at 40 or 50, thats ridicolous a guy in his mid 30s is peaking already unless mr norwood struck him hard or his test already dropped and he needs TRT to get back in track.

Sure in your mid 30s you're not the ceo but is your social position so important compared to all the other factors that alone can balance many other flaws that come with age even in men?

Sometime when i read old men bragging about their rewards at work or their car they remind me of late 30s women bragging about their degree, yeah its great but thats not important as you think in the bigger picture.

I dont see middle aged men with the energy to dance and get drunk an entire night even if they want it, or hit the gym hard and as nothing happened party till late night...wheter we like it or not those are skills that matters to women.

Clearly there are exceptions, not denying it.

As men we have to accept that there is a wall for us too, thankfully its not as hard as the wall that strips women of most of their SMV, in our case it simply force us in most of the cases for the average man to lose girls in their earsly 20s, it usually hit us in our early 40s...again exceptions exist but think about the average man.

 

[zekko]

I think when they talk about a man's desireability picking at 50, they're not taking into account that women 18-25 are the most desired group. Sure, a 47 year old woman may find a successful 50 year old man most desireable, but a 25 year old girl is not usually dreaming of a 50 year old guy. Girls on the average date guys four years older.

If you look at this forum, really it's only girls in their 20s who really "count". Part of that is because the readership is a young crowd. But not all of it.

A powerful guy in his 30s might be a perfect blend of youth, maturity, strength, and power. Such a man can have his pick of women of any age. And if you stay in shape, you don't really diminish much in your 40s. So I agree with Who Dares Win that peak age is more likely mid thirties for a male.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I was reading this rant from whom I presume is a "seasoned woman", and it got me interested:

https://www.themarysue.com/online-dating-sexism-racism/



BTW, she also rants how it is racist for folks to put down racial preference in the bio. THE NERVE

my opinion:

Dudes would likely go younger if not for going to jail.

If a dude bangs a minor, he's jailed fir life.

Female teacher bangs a 15yr old msle student and she's a victim.

18-23 is GOAT status given women and their prevalence to bulkings season.


Women with cratered SMV get mad and cucks marry those *****s.

 

[Sunnypoo]

Mid 30's peak for most guys. I would put women at 23 to include some level of maturity, but 25-26 as the apex for looks/maturity peaking.

 

[zekko]

Dudes would likely go younger if not for going to jail.

Or for the stigma attached.

I watched a couple of old black and white movies on TCM over the holidays. There were a few movies whose female leads had a "barely legal" look to them, so I looked up the actresses to see how old they were at the time of the films. One girl was 20, which was about what I figured. But the other girl turned out to be 15, which really surprised me because to my eyes they looked the same age. I would have guessed them both at about 19 or 20. You can't really go by visual cues alone.

 

[Ranger]

She’s aligning degrees in education to sexual value. LMAO

She’s a Shrek.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Age of consent has been the age of sexual maturity for all of human history. It still works that way in much of the world. The consent age is 12 in most of the Caribbean, and even that is not really enforced, at least by the law. There are not old men doing 12 y/os though, because the girl's family would probably come murder you if you didn't marry her. Family has been the check on sexual predators for all of history. Now we have the state, which might be better than angry mobs in some ways, but is owned by the prison industrial complex, whose mission is to keep as many people incarcerated as possible. Giving a man a jail sentence fit for a murderer because he fvcked a 17 y/o wh0re is madness, but people have been brainwashed into accepting it.

 

[Trump]

18 is desirable for I don’t think it’s “peak” for a woman, I would say anything under 27 is peak for women.

This is an incredibly toxic idea to pass on to young women, who need to be shown that their worth does not solely exist in their physical attractiveness and that they are not going to become somehow lesser as they age.

Of course. That’s why directors and audiences hire and want to see the faces and bodies of 30-50 year old actresses. Them older actresses know how to sell them tickets!

 

[lizardking82]

It depends, different factors at play. Genetics, make up use throughout youth, stress from family/work/life in general, training or not, etc.

In general, there is a freshness to a lot of 17/18 up until 22/23 year olds that starts to slowly slide down after that always talking in terms of pure physical attractivness. However, physical is not the only thing that turns men on. She could be a dime physically, but has a terrible behaviour and 0s my attraction cause she doesn;t give me peace of mind and is not feminine or she has no experience in bed whatsoever.

On the other hand, I think men peak around their 40s. A 40 year old man is a wonderful mix of physical power and sexiness (if fit) and maturity mental/emotional/spiritual. Even in a kind of backways country like Albania, I know and hear 35-40 year old guys having their pick in women in their pre-20s and 20s without a problem at all.