Is school even THAT important?

[jt the azn]

Seriously, when I think about it, most of the stuff I learn in school are useless. It's all trivial stuff.

Everyone says that school is the number one priority in a young person's life.

In my opinion, DJing is basically what they should be teaching in schools.

And high school is pretty much just a social "cage".

 

[Serialized3]

In my opinion, DJing is basically what they should be teaching in schools.

And that's why you're 17 and don't know anything. Stay in school.

 

[jt the azn]

I'm gonna stay in school no matter what because I know it's needed for financial success. However, I feel that there are better things to be taught at school.

 

[Serialized3]

Yeah, you actually remind me of how I was when I was 17, but it takes some age and perspective to actually realize the value of your education. You might question what purpose it serves for you to read the Illiad, or why you have to learn about Bolshevik Russia, but hopefully someday you will appreciate learning for the sake of gaining knowledge, rather than being trained for a vocation. Also, like you said, it's one of the games you have to play in order to get ahead in life. So might as well try to enjoy it.

Plus, it gives you plenty of social outlets to practice your DJ skills.

 

[Falcon]

We live in a society that wants to dumb down its citizens. Turning on the TV will illustrate how bad it has gotten. School used to be very important. Nowadays it's seen as a joke. You ever go on a myspace site and look in that spot where people lists their favorite books. A lot of times you will see some asinine comment like "books? who reads books?" or "the last book I read was in 3rd grade har har har."

As for my own experiences - work hard and have fun... you need both, otherwise life will get dull. I'm going to school and I'm definitely benefiting from it.

 

[BlackJackal]

Nope, its a huge scam. I know this because I live it everyday. I'm a teacher. Schools are just institutions to mold + babysit the future generation of wage slaves because the present generation is too busy being slaves to take care of their young.

Read a bit of Rich Dad, Poor Dad (Before you quit your job)

Basically. I figured that out after I got out of school. Most of the learning process is based on regurgitating trivia that has nothing to do with your life. The point of school is to train you to be the most obedient dog you can be for your master. The word educate is latin for leadership. But school only teaches you how to follow. I'd say 40% of the things taught in school are useful, and you can school on those things at home. The rest is just remembering an answer long enough to circle it out on a test.

Since you're 17, I will tell you that it is better to seek real knowledge that you wont find in school. I've read all the books written by Robert Greene after I left highschool, and turned out to be more aware of the game taking place. Finish school anyway, just for the sake of entertaining everyone by graduating for now. Then go seek out knowledge that actually relates to you, and help you grow.

 

[NickBe]

“Formal education will make you a living; self-education will make you a fortune.” Jim Rohn

School is a lie, it is all about conformity. I graduated high school but did not continue my education in college. I am now a millionaire (almost) and everybody else that graduated high school with me has $50,000+ college debt they have to pay to the government. Some can't find a job in the field they studied and the ones that have are earning $40k per year. It is perfect for the government though because this means that they will need to borrow money from the bank to buy a house and it keeps the economy alive. The whole idea of school is to train people to be worker bees. Go to school graduate but remember self education is the way to riches.

 

[DrMetallica]

You people are crazy.

 

[NickBe]

You are in Europe man it is a different world. Especially Eastern Europe, education is the only way to go there.

 

[Analytic]

Highschool is important, it teaches the basic of educations and get you into social interactions but after highschool IMO it's a waste of time if you're going into a field without a passion to fuel it.

 

[The Forms]

The whole "education nowadays is about regurgitating things" only applies to certain disciplines.

For the most part that is all high school is, I'll give you that. Sometimes a good English teacher can start you thinking about things beyond what you're been directly told, but for the most part I'll agree. However, you HAVE to finish high school. That's pretty much the lowest bar we have set to show you have any amount of intelligence. If you haven't at least graduated high school no one will ever take you seriously as an intelligent person. Period.

College can be a lot more than regurgitation, but it depends on your field. If you study communications, then yes, you're just going to tell them back what they told you a week ago.

But there are many fields that require critical thinking and really working through problems to make you a more intelligent person. Philosophy is obviously a big one. In philosophy you do spend a lot of time learning what great thinkers have said, but at every step you are asked to critically evaluate their propositions and give reasons for why you believe their arguments hold up, or why they don't.

The sciences tend to work the same way. You learn all sorts of laws and theories, but you learn how to really critically attack a problem and decide if you feel certain propositions are valid.

So I don't think it's fair to say ALL education nowadays is about making "good worker bees" and all that. But the problem (oddly enough) is the good worker bees end up with jobs, whereas those who have gotten an EDUCATION in college tend to have a harder time in many cases.

 

[BlackJackal]

The whole "education nowadays is about regurgitating things" only applies to certain disciplines.

For the most part that is all high school is, I'll give you that. Sometimes a good English teacher can start you thinking about things beyond what you're been directly told, but for the most part I'll agree. However, you HAVE to finish high school. That's pretty much the lowest bar we have set to show you have any amount of intelligence. If you haven't at least graduated high school no one will ever take you seriously as an intelligent person. Period.

College can be a lot more than regurgitation, but it depends on your field. If you study communications, then yes, you're just going to tell them back what they told you a week ago.

But there are many fields that require critical thinking and really working through problems to make you a more intelligent person. Philosophy is obviously a big one. In philosophy you do spend a lot of time learning what great thinkers have said, but at every step you are asked to critically evaluate their propositions and give reasons for why you believe their arguments hold up, or why they don't.

The sciences tend to work the same way. You learn all sorts of laws and theories, but you learn how to really critically attack a problem and decide if you feel certain propositions are valid.

So I don't think it's fair to say ALL education nowadays is about making "good worker bees" and all that. But the problem (oddly enough) is the good worker bees end up with jobs, whereas those who have gotten an EDUCATION in college tend to have a harder time in many cases.

I never said All, I said MOST. And even still graduating from school, does not automatically bring success ( which is subjective) and not doing so will not automatically bring failure. By all means finish school, finish college etc. And I agree when it comes to wanting to be in a certain field, then the respective class for that field is useful.

But I'm speaking more in terms of highschool, where 90% of the students wont relate to the material that much to care otherwise. College is a step better, but it doesn't promise success, as much as it does debt. Everyone has intelligence. Intelligence is simply having the ability to know/learn things. Knowledge is what is known. And thats what it comes down. There's a difference between knowledge and trivia.

Trivia is only about memorizing more things to say. Where you can say an answer better than the next person. But everyone knows talk is cheap. Where knowledge naturally leads to actions, and those actions lead to experience, and experience leads to knowledge.

But schooling IMO, is based on static thought. It barely covers anything when it comes to creative thought. Which is an important way of looking at life.

 

[Derek Flint]

Depends on what you study.

Some BS Liberal Arts degree won't get you a decent paying job.

Or, if you have great natural game and verbal skills, you can make 6 figures easily in Sales with very little education.

 

[belividere]

Seriously, when I think about it, most of the stuff I learn in school are useless.

Don't ever underestimate the value of an education. It might not seem like much, but if I read a job application with similar grammar I would toss it in the out pile regardless of qualifications.

Every time this topic comes up it becomes the whole school is pointless, dont bother, most billionaires dont have an education. I agree school without reason, or an end, is a waste of money and time. For the majority of people school is a stepping stone that shows your basic qualifications. If you cant write a grammatically correct sentence in your native tongue then you should continue your education. Every high schooler in the country should be comparing themselves to the same generation in other countries, particularly those in developing countries.

Future generations are going to be in for a serious employment shock if they think that they can coast by with minimal skills or knowledge. If you dont want to go to college you should be willing to protest and bring back US manufacturing jobs at a living wage. Or you should skip college because you already have an idea, an external source of money, a great idea, or an established business.

 

[jvd]

First of all, finish high school, no ifs or buts. Since I kind of know you are into entrepreneurship in future, University or College is NOT required for success. But I would HIGHLY recommend getting degree (I suggest a business degree, or a trade you ACTUALLY enjoy) because it's more of an insurance policy for yourself if your business fails. (9 of 10 businesses fail within first five years, don't remember source)


I'll admit, most (not all) of material you learn in formal schools is quite useless in the real world. I believe self-education and applied experience is more beneficial in the real world. But it's harder or you can't really prove on a resume that you are more qualified for the job than an individual who has more formal education. Therefore, it is still very important to stay in school!