Is getting you "off your game" on of their strategies?

[mrgoodstuff]

A driven male with discipline, work ethic and good habits. He has a few things he does outside work and betterment that he enjoys.

Is getting you to stop bit by bit one of their things/?

 

[jaymbrs]

I'd say yes, mostly the feminists. What better way to feel superior to a man than by getting him off his game? Also some of the more insecure ones who need to see you give up on some things for her, as a true expression of your love for her.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I'd say yes, mostly the feminists. What better way to feel superior to a man than by getting him off his game? Also some of the more insecure ones who need to see you give up on some things for her, as a true expression of your love for her.

I believe it also steals your old Alpha "light" and lets her stand in the power of your former glory. I truly believe it's some power dynamics in play that don't get discussed. So it makes sense why the stall, neg try to get you to deprioritize what was making you who you are.

 

[Robert28]

I find that as I’ve gotten older, women with less to offer tend to play the most games. The bitter women in their 30’s LOVE their mind games whereas that 22 yr old girl doesn’t need to play them. The women that play games think it makes them more attractive, it doesn’t. Not to me at least.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I find that as I’ve gotten older, women with less to offer tend to play the most games. The bitter women in their 30’s LOVE their mind games whereas that 22 yr old girl doesn’t need to play them. The women that play games think it makes them more attractive, it doesn’t. Not to me at least.

The guys are saying what you are saying is true. But in the case of most American feminist she will desire to be in the "in charge" position.

 

[Lynx nkaf]

to the title question.......possibly.
I'll say this.


A man's best scenario is probably to be an employer who only hires attractive, submissive hardworking housekeepers.

Not PC to write that but....

Numerous red flags get eliminated in the reference check;
power struggle is nil-there's clear roles expectation.
Man provides room and board so he 'keeps on eye on her' and has the right(with polite notice) to investigate her room for other red flags in her lifestyle.

That thing that happens when a woman is underfoot and familiar and he will find himself attracting her because of proximity.

Remember fictional tv show 'I dream of Jeannie'?
What's imprinted at the start master/servant for lack of better terms....will continue throughout relationship.
Man tires or changes his mind with her, he gives 2 weeks notice to her.
Man wants some commitment? Well, he'll save the wages but he must be certain she idolizes him.

One idea to circumvent the emotional training of free agent non-employee women.

Employee first and build out from there.

I've been thinking of this for years. Open to learning other scenarios to dismantle women's strategies to 'get men off their game'.
I'm interested because it would be healthier to see a different society than this predominantly gynocentric one.



Speaking about my past now:
My ex told me he was thinking of me watching that movie Maudie. Weird but I get why. Asked him why didn't he just put an ad out for a housekeeper/cook that he eventually ends up in bed with. He gave me a funny look. Like he wanted to say, "but that's what I did. We met from a dating ad."

He didn't say it though. lol.
Ex was too funny. He was fun and I learned alot from him. I'll never forget he gave me the red pill. Forever grateful to be exposed to this logic

(...) some of the more insecure ones who need to see you give up on some things for her, as a true expression of your love for her.

this^

 

[jaymbrs]

I find that as I’ve gotten older, women with less to offer tend to play the most games. The bitter women in their 30’s LOVE their mind games whereas that 22 yr old girl doesn’t need to play them. The women that play games think it makes them more attractive, it doesn’t. Not to me at least.

I see it both ways. Nothing like a young chick who thinks she has and knows it all to play games with every guy she meets. Whereas the older know they cant compete with the younger so they're more straight to the point. But then I've also met older women who play games to disguise their flaws i.e. their super high lay count, children, ex spouses, etc. Younger chicks who just want to party and get laid.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

to the title question.......possibly.
I'll say this.


A man's best scenario is probably to be an employer who only hires attractive, submissive hardworking housekeepers.

Not PC to write that but....

Numerous red flags get eliminated in the reference check;
power struggle is nil-there's clear roles expectation.
Man provides room and board so he 'keeps on eye on her' and has the right(with polite notice) to investigate her room for other red flags in her lifestyle.

That thing that happens when a woman is underfoot and familiar and he will find himself attracting her because of proximity.

Remember fictional tv show 'I dream of Jeannie'?
What's imprinted at the start master/servant for lack of better terms....will continue throughout relationship.
Man tires or changes his mind with her, he gives 2 weeks notice to her.
Man wants some commitment? Well, he'll save the wages but he must be certain she idolizes him.

One idea to circumvent the emotional training of free agent non-employee women.

Employee first and build out from there.

I've been thinking of this for years. Open to learning other scenarios to dismantle women's strategies to 'get men off their game'.
I'm interested because it would be healthier to see a different society than this predominantly gynocentric one.



Speaking about my past now:
My ex told me he was thinking of me watching that movie Maudie. Weird but I get why. Asked him why didn't he just put an ad out for a housekeeper/cook that he eventually ends up in bed with. He gave me a funny look. Like he wanted to say, "but that's what I did. We met from a dating ad."

He didn't say it though. lol.
Ex was too funny. He was fun and I learned alot from him. I'll never forget he gave me the red pill. Forever grateful to be exposed to this logic



this^

I've thought of this too somewhat and the housekeeper that fvcks you seem

I see it both ways. Nothing like a young chick who thinks she has and knows it all to play games with every guy she meets. Whereas the older know they cant compete with the younger so they're more straight to the point. But then I've also met older women who play games to disguise their flaws i.e. their super high lay count, children, ex spouses, etc. Younger chicks who just want to party and get laid.

What's a "super high" lay count in your estimation?

 

[NSX-R]

It’s a short sighted plan of power . When a woman is trying to make you let go of those habits of power like , having a good job , taking care of your responsibilities etc. she assumes that she’s going to be in charge later on and that she’ll have authority over you . We live in a civilized world and power is owned by the one who’s bringing food on the table . If a man can’t do that somebody has to do it and that’s where a woman comes into play. Women think that that’s a good thing. But she fails to realize that’s what is making a man attractive in a first place . It’s a big sign of a woman with lots of insecurities and lack f maturity .

I had a rich plate once and she was doing her best to make me let go of everything i was doing . Let go of my business, let go of doing fitness and looking after myself , my hobbies , even change my appearance,literally everything . That was from a woman in her 30s . She knew she wasn’t gonna be attractive forever and she knew that a young guy like me with all of my assets is going to be hard to keep and that sooner or later i was going to find a different woman . I did only one step behind and i slightly changed my appearance to see how she would react . Guess what , she was even more unsatisfied than before . I got my answer , changed back to my old appearance as i was planing to do and dumped her arse .

What i realized? If you make a step back a woman makes a step forward. If you keep on stepping back you’ll hit the wall with your back and then a woman is going to mess with you really bad without any mercy on you .

They gonna use everything on you like saying that you ain’t spending enough time with them or your kids if you have or that you are a selfish egotistical person who doesn’t care about others needs or whatever , every excuse they can to make you feel bad and take a step back on what their short sighted plan is .Lol even social media promotes that with all those memes about arguing with women and the man has to always comply with her . Grow a pair, and do your thing gentlemen cause that’s what makes a woman attracted to you and if she ain’t complying then literally next her .

 

[mrgoodstuff]

It’s a short sighted plan of power . When a woman is trying to make you let go of those habits of power like , having a good job , taking care of your responsibilities etc. she assumes that she’s going to be in charge later on and that she’ll have authority over you . We live in a civilized world and power is owned by the one who’s bringing food on the table . If a man can’t do that somebody has to do it and that’s where a woman comes into play. Women think that that’s a good thing. But she fails to realize that’s what is making a man attractive in a first place . It’s a big sign of a woman with lots of insecurities and lack f maturity .

Do you believe in this day and age they are coached and encouraged to get that out of a man? IE: to help move him out of positions where he has control and power, so that later on like you say she can be his "head"?

Did you see the "Prince Harry" post I made, showing all the movements that Harry is moving out of power and out of Alpha positions, and even giving up hobbies and sports which used to be important to him?

I had a rich plate once and she was doing her best to make me let go of everything i was doing . Let go of my business, let go of doing fitness and looking after myself , my hobbies , even change my appearance,literally everything . That was from a woman in her 30s . She knew she wasn’t gonna be attractive forever and she knew that a young guy like me with all of my assets is going to be hard to keep and that sooner or later i was going to find a different woman . I did only one step behind and i slightly changed my appearance to see how she would react . Guess what , she was even more unsatisfied than before . I got my answer , changed back to my old appearance as i was planing to do and dumped her arse .

She figured moving you out of those positions would lock you in? She also thought that the "power" and "control" you gave up with magically swing to her, amplifying and elevating her at your expense?

How did she treat you before during and after you had your business, your fitness, your hobbies, appearance, etc? How was sex? Interest, attraction?

What i realized? If you make a step back a woman makes a step forward. If you keep on stepping back you’ll hit the wall with your back and then a woman is going to mess with you really bad without any mercy on you .

Her entire goal could've been to get you to "step back" so she could take the space... She would keep you in that reduced position for the rest of your life if you allowed. Her friends, family and social groups could've coached and assisted and leveraged information to help her get it done...

They gonna use everything on you like saying that you ain’t spending enough time with them or your kids if you have or that you are a selfish egotistical person who doesn’t care about others needs or whatever , every excuse they can to make you feel bad and take a step back on what their short sighted plan is .Lol even social media promotes that with all those memes about arguing with women and the man has to always comply with her . Grow a pair, and do your thing gentlemen cause that’s what makes a woman attracted to you and if she ain’t complying then literally next her .

So now your viewpoint is those are usually "manipulations" to steer and move you?

And we all know women don't DESIRE men they control. She will CONTROL ( cuck your bytchazz ) and give her BODY to a man who would never let her control him.

 

[NSX-R]

Do you believe in this day and age they are coached and encouraged to get that out of a man? IE: to help move him out of positions where he has control and power, so that later on like you say she can be his "head"?

I think it’s just the next step for the independent woman our current society is trying to promote. Meanwhile i do like an independent woman don’t take me wrong but i want her to know her place while she’s with me . A ship can’t have 2 captains and my father didn’t teach me to be a sailor , if you know what i mean .

Did you see the "Prince Harry" post I made, showing all the movements that Harry is moving out of power and out of Alpha positions, and even giving up hobbies and sports which used to be important to him?

No but i know what you mean . I think the example of prince Harry is a bit more complicated than it seems cause there were a couple of scandals that started to float a little bit before he give up his royal responsibilities? I guess . But i do believe that his wife played some role in this and I’m really interested to see how it’s going to end up . I give it 3-4 years before they split with her blaming him for irrelevant things .

She figured moving you out of those positions would lock you in? She also thought that the "power" and "control" you gave up with magically swing to her, amplifying and elevating her at your expense?

I think that’s normal behavior. Many men are immature enough to believe whichever excuse a woman is going to bring up for them to step back and women know that from a very young age . Cause men are taught like that , to care after women and treat them well cause they are “fragile” . It’s the same as treating kids . If you don’t teach your kids some manners and who has the authority early then the kid is going to assume power and do whatever it wants . Basic things .

How did she treat you before during and after you had your business, your fitness, your hobbies, appearance, etc? How was sex? Interest,

I met her while i already had my own business and i had already high enough status otherwise she wouldn’t be with me cause she was known in our area that she hangs out with high status people , maybe improved my physical appearance (got more muscle mass ) while i was with her something that she also criticized it . At first she was enjoying all of those assets but little by little she started criticizing everything. As long as i remember she was complaining about things that i was doing even when we first met .That was like 3 or 4 years ago and i wasn’t experienced enough but off course i wasn’t stupid to change myself but i wanted to see how she would react if i did listened to her once . So i changed my haircut and my beard(not a major change but enough to test the waters) made it exactly as she wanted. Guess what . She started criticizing and complaining even more . Interest level was always there but I was the one that was getting turned off and didn’t like any of this . Sometimes she wouldn’t let me fck her cause of those issues but that’s debatable cause she liked the “playing hard to get” game so i had to do my own things to fck her . Sometimes i was complying to her not wanting to fck her , then her 10 minutes after to start pulling me for as long as half an hour to make me fck her .We had lots of fights and i just dumped her . She wanted to return and she was texting me for the whole month .Didn’t happened.

So now your viewpoint is those are usually "manipulations" to steer and move you?

And we all know women don't DESIRE men they control. She will CONTROL ( cuck your bytchazz ) and give her BODY to a man who would never let her control him.

Exactly
I think that these kind of women “dig their own grave” by doing that .As i said , it’s a major hint of insecurity and lack of maturity. It’s like having a perfect painting in front of me and changing myself some of the colors thinking it’s gonna be better , then it turns out the painting got destroyed and i don’t like it anymore. Can’t really explain it . Maybe it’s human nature . Humans do like to feel that their in charge only to realize later they were not suited for it . Women who’s getting gifts and compliments all the time feel like they are in a position of power and when they find a certain individual which is better than them in every single way , they would still be massively attracted to them but since they are used to be all the time at the “top” of their world ,and it ain’t happening right now it’s contradicting to them . Insecurities kick in and happens what we are discussing. I don’t know .If your partner ain’t on drugs , alcohol or something that really is doing bad on them , then let it be .

 

[jaymbrs]

I've thought of this too somewhat and the housekeeper that fvcks you seem


What's a "super high" lay count in your estimation?

When I feel a woman is lying about her sex count, I tend to assume it's over 25.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

You know it is. If you wan to have a torrid two day/two week love affair with a woman, then give her your full attention, and make her happiness your priority and purpose. If you want her to stick around longer than that, never give her more than two consecutive hours of your undivided attention.

Time management. Energy management.

 

[jaymbrs]

Time management. Energy management.

As well as investment. Easier to do it in a short span than spread out over time. Gotta set reasonable expectations.

 

[jaymbrs]

You know it is. If you want to have a torrid two day/two week love affair with a woman, then give her your full attention, and make her happiness your priority and purpose. If you want her to stick around longer than that, never give her more than two consecutive hours of your undivided attention.

I feel like majority of men do this naturally and women attempt to sniff it out. Which makes sense why some women prefer *******s because they assume he's being authentic which means he probably doesn't just want a 2 week fling. I know my current GF appreciated the fact that I didn't try to WOO her and told me stories about how other guys tried too hard by opening the car door or do other things like that.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I feel like majority of men do this naturally and women attempt to sniff it out. Which makes sense why some women prefer *******s because they assume he's being authentic which means he probably doesn't just want a 2 week fling. I know my current GF appreciated the fact that I didn't try to WOO her and told me stories about how other guys tried too hard by opening the car door or do other things like that.

That's wild. Opening the door like one would for a woman is viewed as "trying too hard", it might be how he was raised. Some of us don't like to treat the woman like "another guy"...

 

[Lynx nkaf]

That's wild. Opening the door like one would for a woman is viewed as "trying too hard", it might be how he was raised. Some of us don't like to treat the woman like "another guy"...

Regular doors being opened are common and I appreciate them.
Car doors being opened are a rarity to either receive or even witness.

 

[Spaz]

All women want power, if they can't get it through the boardroom, they'll get it through the bedroom.

It's their natural inclination, which is why I keep telling you boys, power is the greatest aphrodisiac for women.

 

[GeeMale]

I find that as I’ve gotten older, women with less to offer tend to play the most games. The bitter women in their 30’s LOVE their mind games whereas that 22 yr old girl doesn’t need to play them. The women that play games think it makes them more attractive, it doesn’t. Not to me at least.

Bitter woman in 30's playing mind games...I've experienced this before. She sounded fake as hell and I knew something was off...but she was suppose to be for f******* anyways and that's it..lol damn I hated that bich she thought I couldn't see through her bull

 

[GeeMale]

I had a couple of girls ask me to open their doors, and I said, "like a chauffeur?" Invariably, they responded, "no, like a gentleman." I replied, "well, a chauffeur gets a tip and a gentleman gets a kiss; so I'm gonna open your door, and what you give me is will determine whether I do it, again."

Lol what I find odd is everyone should open doors for anyone if the moment is there as it's polite ....no one is special. I've had a guy make me say thank you before at gym for opening door for me. I was like "dude it's just a door" and why he.would say something like that ...he admitted later it was rude