Is everything our fault or should they also blamed?

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Are only men guilty for failed relationships wether they are fwb, marriages or just girl/boyfriend type relationsips?
It comes across like most guys here( or in the red pill scene ) only blame the men and im also convinced that men are responsible for disrespect from women if they allow bad behaviour, let themselves use as a doormat etc.

But ive seen women in my known circle who didnt ride CC after a divorce or a seperation. They moved to their parents or they looked for another relationship.
I dated a girl when i was in my late teens and i did all kind of sexual stuff with her. And then i left her. She was very submissive and giving.
Some month after i left her i found out she got married to a guy. They are still married to this day and i believe that even whe he werent alpha af ( which i dont think he is because he knew what i did with her and still took her) she still wouldnt hook up with guys left and right.

My ex i dated after her and whom i have kids with was crazy. She was submissive in the beginning but she lost respect.
Of course i allowed that happen it was my responsibility. But what do you guys think? Arent there women who immediately start disrespecting you if you let your guard down and others who have more patience?
That would mean she has already character in some ways that you dont need to train on her.
Or some of them replace you 10 times within a month while others jump in another ltr.

I feel like many guys only see the men responsible and i also agree that a man is way more responsible. You can only evolve if you are responsible for your actions.
But isnt it wrong to say it is EVERYTHING on the guy?
 

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You are responsible for your actions, behavior, and emotions. You can not control these things in any other person. If you are in a bad situation it is your responsibility to get out of it. If you let some one disrespect you, it is just that. You are letting them do it. Sometimes it comes down to just walking away. If a woman disrespects you, and you allow it to continue, that is your fault.
 

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You are responsible for your actions, behavior, and emotions. You can not control these things in any other person. If you are in a bad situation it is your responsibility to get out of it. If you let some one disrespect you, it is just that. You are letting them do it. Sometimes it comes down to just walking away. If a woman disrespects you, and you allow it to continue, that is your fault.
Ok so in your opinion the variable women doesnt matter. They are all the same and its all about me?
 

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Correct. It is on you to build strong boundaries. If someone crosses those boundaries, there needs to be some kind of repercussion. If you don't have strong boundaries people will take advantage of you and walk all over you. If a woman is treating you like a doormat, it is because you don't have any boundaries and you are letting her do that to you. Someone with strong boundaries would have walked away.

This doesn't just apply to romantic relationships, but to all relationships.
 

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No but you are responsible for screening for good ones. You should have 3 chicks in your rotation or be working towards. Automatically fixes so many issues.

And if u want your next LTR to work I suggest u read the owners manual. Ebook :. Practical female psychology for the practical man
 
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I've posted before about this exact topic.

When you are really blue-pilled and haven't opened your eyes, you have a lot of learning to do. Most things that prevent you from having success with women ARE going to be your fault. But once you open your eyes, get the right mindset, and start putting in work, you will make fewer mistakes, but will now be in a pattern of asking yourself what you did wrong when things don't work out with each girl. You have to transition away from that and begin being more objective about things. Did you F-up, or did you do everything right and she simply wasn't on your level? Note that "doing everything right" doesn't mean doing everything right for that specific girl and that specific time and place. No man can do that (though some men are very, very good at it). Instead you act as the man you should be (based on the principles preached here such as confidence, entitlement, escalation, non-neediness, abundance, patience, etc) and so long as you are adhering to all that, in most cases you don't blame yourself. That's the very short version.
 
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