Is dating and everything else truly better in your 30s (after putting in the hard work)?

[mellow_yellow]

I have trouble believing this after struggling with dating horribly throughout my 20s. I have 1.5 years left until I turn 30. I've searched and read through similar "dating in 30s" threads that were posted in our forum.

So what exactly happens and changes for men when they cross into this decade of life — women that ignored us before magically come out of the shadows and begin paying attention to us as soon as we turn 30 and until we peak out at age 36? I don't buy it. How does this all play out?

I know that peak SMV in the 30s is only reserved for the men who put in the hard work upfront. I'm aware that dating and life doesn't become better just because of age. I must work extremely hard in taking care of my health, finances, and well-being so I can be secure and established in life. That's what I'm doing right now. I began lifting weights on a proper program back in April and slowly implementing one regimen after another. I'm not doing too bad, but I need to do more to change make more money and get my own place again. It's not going to be a cakewalk and will require consistent sacrifices on my part. I'm willing to do it because I can't accept a life that's the same like it is right now.

Finally, I don't have a super tight-knit social network either so not sure how guys in their 30s meet other accomplished guys and women. Currently, my social circle consists of friends in my immediate area. As I do better for myself and in business, am I naturally going to meet more people, get invited to events, and form more social circles that way? Like everything else in life, maintaining a network of social circles will take work.

 

[curtsilv]

You sound very anxious. You're anticipating disaster. Your negativity is out of control. Did you study psychology at all in college, especially clinical psychology? Cognitive behavioral therapy sounds like it could help you a lot. It's a technique which challenges your negative thought processes and pushes you in a more realistic direction and changes your decision making as a result.

 

[Augustus_McCrae]

I have trouble believing this after struggling with dating horribly throughout my 20s. I have 1.5 years left until I turn 30. I've searched and read through similar "dating in 30s" threads that were posted in our forum.

So what exactly happens and changes for men when they cross into this decade of life — women that ignored us before magically come out of the shadows and begin paying attention to us as soon as we turn 30 and until we peak out at age 36? I don't buy it. How does this all play out?

I know that peak SMV in the 30s is only reserved for the men who put in the hard work upfront. I'm aware that dating and life doesn't become better just because of age. I must work extremely hard in taking care of my health, finances, and well-being so I can be secure and established in life. That's what I'm doing right now. I began lifting weights on a proper program back in April and slowly implementing one regimen after another. I'm not doing too bad, but I need to do more to change make more money and get my own place again. It's not going to be a cakewalk and will require consistent sacrifices on my part. I'm willing to do it because I can't accept a life that's the same like it is right now.

Finally, I don't have a super tight-knit social network either so not sure how guys in their 30s meet other accomplished guys and women. Currently, my social circle consists of friends in my immediate area. As I do better for myself and in business, am I naturally going to meet more people, get invited to events, and form more social circles that way? Like everything else in life, maintaining a network of social circles will take work.

You mention “get my own place again”. Who do you live with?

-Augustus-

 

[MillionBillionaire]

lol no. No need to read.

 

[zekko]

The answer is yes, but you have to put in the work. Sounds like you waited a long time to start lifting. Social networking is work. You have to put in the work.

The combination of self improvement plus increased confidence, maturity, and social smoothness leads to better responses from females.

 

[Who Dares Win]

You just happen to have a higher SMV if you did the right things while women basically decreased theirs, forget about banging hotties in their early 20s when you will be your mid 30s unless you live in easter europe and are top shape with status.

Such things exists only in the deepest fantasies of delusional forum users, the guy in his mid 30s with a receiding hairline is not goint to slay hotties around, he will just have more negotiation power with the women he deals with especially when it comes of LTR.

Some user will surely disagree therefore I suggest you to check all the guys in their 30s that you know and see how they live and how much succesful they are in terms of women.

Truth is that even if you fixed some weak parts of yourself, the women around you are not those fresh 20s you were used to deal with before, now you have women is their late 20s or early 30s who rode and still ride the carouself but somehow feel like checking out how to settle in the near future.

What is true is that usually women will be more polite and accepting at you given that you made the right moves but again dont think about replay your 20s in god mode.

Personally the sweet spot was being between 26 and 29, thats when you get both the fresh life and the benefits of your previous right moves, in that space you basically live like an adult while having fun like a young guy.

 

[Music_czar]

Definitely better in your 30’s. Don’t have easy access to as many women as when I was in school in my 20’s, but when you’re in your 30’s social media helped me meet lots of hot, young, and very kinky women. Definitely better quality - looks wise - than anything I had when I was a starving student. Now when I go out with them they dress up like models and porn stars. The things they can do with make up, heels, and tight dresses to impress an older professional guy are almost unbelievable.

For men the best is always yet to come..

 

[curtsilv]

You are way too stuck in pua theory, smv/redpill theory, sosuave theory and a bunch of other theories. If you've been studying and applying these theories for 10 years with no results, then they're not going to help you, period.

What sucks is, most people are so stuck in delusion they think any reference to reality as a personal attack. Don't be one of those people. Explore other options, whether that's traveling overseas, getting therapy or some other plan. Trying for a harem of 18 year olds is not going to work out for everyone. I don't know of a single person who could manage this anyway. Perhaps hugh hefner. Do you have hugh hefner money?

The answer is yes, but you have to put in the work. Sounds like you waited a long time to start lifting. Social networking is work. You have to put in the work.

The combination of self improvement plus increased confidence, maturity, and social smoothness leads to better responses from females.

I have trouble believing this after struggling with dating horribly throughout my 20s. I have 1.5 years left until I turn 30. I've searched and read through similar "dating in 30s" threads that were posted in our forum.

So what exactly happens and changes for men when they cross into this decade of life — women that ignored us before magically come out of the shadows and begin paying attention to us as soon as we turn 30 and until we peak out at age 36? I don't buy it. How does this all play out?

I know that peak SMV in the 30s is only reserved for the men who put in the hard work upfront. I'm aware that dating and life doesn't become better just because of age. I must work extremely hard in taking care of my health, finances, and well-being so I can be secure and established in life. That's what I'm doing right now. I began lifting weights on a proper program back in April and slowly implementing one regimen after another. I'm not doing too bad, but I need to do more to change make more money and get my own place again. It's not going to be a cakewalk and will require consistent sacrifices on my part. I'm willing to do it because I can't accept a life that's the same like it is right now.

Finally, I don't have a super tight-knit social network either so not sure how guys in their 30s meet other accomplished guys and women. Currently, my social circle consists of friends in my immediate area. As I do better for myself and in business, am I naturally going to meet more people, get invited to events, and form more social circles that way? Like everything else in life, maintaining a network of social circles will take work.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

You are way too stuck in pua theory, smv/redpill theory, sosuave theory and a bunch of other theories. If you've been studying and applying these theories for 10 years with no results, then they're not going to help you, period.

What sucks is, most people are so stuck in delusion they think any reference to reality as a personal attack. Don't be one of those people. Explore other options, whether that's traveling overseas, getting therapy or some other plan. Trying for a harem of 18 year olds is not going to work out for everyone. I don't know of a single person who could manage this anyway. Perhaps hugh hefner. Do you have hugh hefner money?

Umm no not required. You can be a hot local businessman, mid level entertainer or athelete and have this. Some have hos and very little cash of their owwn.

 

[curtsilv]

Umm no not required. You can be a hot local businessman, mid level entertainer or athelete and have this. Some have hos and very little cash of their owwn.

I don't doubt they have "hos" lol. Do you mean "hoes"? Or "hose"? Passing 1st grade is a big deal bruh.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I don't doubt they have "hos" lol. Do you mean "hoes"? Or "hose"? Passing 1st grade is a big deal bruh.

Comon now dude you know what i mean. Plenty of silver tongued socially cliqued up guys have hoez.

 

[zekko]

Yes and no. More confidence, money, sometimes better looking too but you are not around as many datable women.

The logistics aren't as good, but I found that I got better responses from females when I was in my 30s than I did when I was in my 20s. Which made sense, since my SMV was higher.

 

[guru1000]

Nah 40s is your best

Depends on many factors and the bulk of men will SMV depreciate after 35 yo.

Though there are outliers:

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1....gws-wiz-img.q46xCWUDlRA#imgrc=uQ2-Eov5oA0t6M

Be an outlier.

 

[curtsilv]

Things in the market have also changed a lot. My SMV is much higher also but the market is 50% worse now than in my 20s.

Your SMV matches you with grannies. Therefore your SMV is low. Very low.

 

[zekko]

Nah 40s is your best

Depends on many factors and the bulk of men will SMV depreciate after 35 yo.

I think the 30s and 40s are about the same, as long as you stay in shape.

 

[guru1000]

I think the 30s and 40s are about the same, as long as you stay in shape.

I disagree.

Most my childhood friends look like crap.

I was dating one young girl, 22 yo, a few weeks back. When she showed me pictures of her family, I recognized her father: I went to school with him!

I lied about my age. While we were discussing the topic of aging, she mentions,”wait till you get to be my father’s age” lol

The single guys I know my age typically date women 35-45 yo. In that age group, most men in their 40s monopolize.

Very few outliers can kill it with hot models or girls 20+ years younger ... except of course ... perhaps ... some unnamed, infamous guru.

 

[17 shots]

Idk about you OP, but it will be for ME... because I refuse for it to be any other way. Life is what we make it

 

[Billtx49]

What's your diagnosis?

I don’t think he’s here for exhibiting any type of mentally constructive thought processes …

 

[zekko]

I disagree.
Most my childhood friends look like crap.

I did say as long as you stay in shape. We're not talking about AFCs here. We're talking about guys who take care of themselves and self improve.
I don't think my SMV changed much from my 30s to my 40s.

I don't think a man's appearance changes much from 30s to 40s either, again as long as they take care of themselves.
Tom Cruise looked pretty much the same, whether he was in his 30s or 40s.

 

[evan12]

OP :
It is only true when it come to LTR , as you will have more resources that any any woman who want to settle down will desire it , however , your sexual appeal will go down, sometimes it is genetics like loosing hair , fading your youthful look, this will make it hard for you to cold approach, unless you are able to communicate your status indirectly. Also it is kind of dangerous game , as the older you get the older women you will date, (with some exception ) and trust the older the single woman is the harder she is to deal with.