Is Boxing a Possibility?

[AFK Protector]

I am asian, 16 years old (just turned), 145 lbs, 5'9".

I am thinking of starting boxing this summer. Is that a possibility? I play tennis and I'm hoping boxing will provide me with self-defense and help my reflexes in tennis also.

This guy wants to kick my ass for flirting with his GF a lot, and I'm not backing off because its friendly and he's being a jealous ass. Anyways, he knows some martial arts and is a violent bastard. Will boxing save me from his rage o' wrath?

Thanks to all that post ahead of time.

 

[Devilman]

i've been doing boxing myself for some months, i think it will help you improve no doubt, reflexes, speed, technique etc over time. However i hear alot of guys that shoot there mouths off, there like "i do such and such martial arts and can kick anyones ass" then a week later u see them all busted up lol

but to awsner your question boxing would help but i dont think it will save you especially if this guys bigger and has been doing martials arts a while and is actually good, and you say he's more violent that can mean he's been in many fights before. i'd stay away from him man, no point getting fecked up for some bullsh1t reason

 

[undesputable]

a couple of weeks of boxing is not going to get you to be a badass....

and one thing is boxing and fighting is another thing, in boxing you cant take people down, or do any of the dirty **** that usually goes down in a streetfight.

im not saying that boxing is not going to help you but if you want to get in a street fight and you want boxing to do the trick for you, you got to be good.... i mean like 1 or 2 years experience at least.

 

[AFK Protector]

Yeah man, he was pissed at me cause I was "flirting" with his girl. But they're not actually going out and I was just asking her why she dressed like a wh0re.

Anyways, I am starting in the summer and will train in my basement year long. He's violent yes, and he has gotten into "fights" but it's like, punching girls or guys that piss him off, like randomly. Or picking people up by the throat and choking them. He always attacks first and its if you piss him off at once.

So yeah, I'm not looking to kick any ones ass here. I'm looking to defend mine. Thanks for your tips.

Any boxers live in the Chicago area?

 

[CLOONEY]

Originally posted by undesputable
a couple of weeks of boxing is not going to get you to be a badass....

and one thing is boxing and fighting is another thing, in boxing you cant take people down, or do any of the dirty **** that usually goes down in a streetfight.

im not saying that boxing is not going to help you but if you want to get in a street fight and you want boxing to do the trick for you, you got to be good.... i mean like 1 or 2 years experience at least.

Agree.

To be good in a streetfight u gotta have that animal instinct inside of you. Usually the strongest most aggressive guy "wins" every single time.

Although noone really wins, one ends up with a broken face, the other with broken knuckles.

Grow up and realise u should not fight over such stupid sh*t.....

 

[AFK Protector]

Originally posted by CLOONEY
Agree.

To be good in a streetfight u gotta have that animal instinct inside of you. Usually the strongest most aggressive guy "wins" every single time.

Although noone really wins, one ends up with a broken face, the other with broken knuckles.

Grow up and realise u should not fight over such stupid sh*t.....

I totally agree with you. I'm trying to prevent this fight, BUT IN CASE IT HAPPENS, I don't want to get creamed. It's like having a gun. You don't go off shooting every guy you see, but when a burglar with a knife comes into your house, you gotta use it.

Trust, my, I'm a docile kid. I don't look for trouble. It looks for me.

^^Hey that sounded like a movie line.

 

[MindOverMatter]

I wouldn't bother with boxing (unless you actually wanna compete in it as an athlete), it's very limited compared to some of the other striking styles. If you only want to be a striker, go for muay thai. It's by far the most vicious striking martial art you'll find, the only problem is finding a school that doesn't suck.

Personally, I'd go enroll in a good brazilian jiu jitsu school. 90% of all street fights end up on the ground, and if you are a trained grapler, the guy has no chance. You will also learn choke reversals and many other good counters that should help you if that guy tries any choking.

 

[undesputable]

yea i think striking arts are way overrated...ive been boxing for about 1 year, but i also been doing jiu jitsu for like 8 months, and if i got in a fight i would rely more on jiu jitsu than anything else...

especially is youre a smaller guy against a bigger one. if you try to beat a big guy with punches youre probably not going to do it.... but then no matter how tough he might be if you get him in an arm lock and brake his arm, or choke him and put him to sleep the fight is over.

i was watching a movie called "in hell" the other day with jean van claude, and he was fighting this huge guy, and he started out punching him and kicking him but it didnt work and he was getting his ass kicked. so then he went for a throwdown he got him on the ground, he got in the mount position and tried to do an arm bar but it didnt work, then he quickly transitioned into side control and did a coiled armbar and broke his arm..... so it was over and ive been doing a lot of jiu jitsu latley (about 6 times a week) so it made me feel like i am actually learning something

 

[AFK Protector]

Hmm, thanks guys. Maybe I'm being an ignorant pvssy that's afraid to have his balls crushed when sparring.

But yeah, I need to go do some research on this ju jit su stuff.

 

[DJBen]

BJJ is ace as an MMA. Size doesnt always matter, you can do some serious damamge, and they have some of the toughest belt criteria going... my friend who is third dan HKD and good at muay thai got destroyed by someone almost half his weight and only a purple belt.

however, although 90 percent of street fights go to the ground, how often do you get attacked by multiple people/there is glass and weapons around, the floor is damn hard etc. It isnt all it's cracked up to be.

People seem to forget a few tricks. A very fast and not very powerful hit to the balls puts them off track for a while. A strike to the throat puts them out, a poke in the eye if you can get it is worthwhile, a weapon thats lying around - anything in the name of self defence. they wont fight fair, dont disadvantage yourself.

BJJ and MT is probably one of the best combos. and dont forget, dirty tricks might well save your life in a street fight.

[it might be off topic, but this is always mentioned on every forum I go to so I'm getting my two cents in ]

 

[undesputable]

jiu jitsu has a crazy rank system.....the belts go from white to blue, purple brown and black....at my school my sensai puts yellow, orange and green before blue (and keep in mind that blue is the first official belt next to white)..... so ive been doing jiu jitsu (which im actually pretty good at) for an average of 4 times per week for 8 months and im only an orange belt, and i just got it a couple of weeks ago....

to become a black belt you have to do some serious training, about 10 years or so, and my sensai is 3rd degree black belt so he kicks ass and hes pretty cool, hes not down with all that formal **** other martial arts has.... but in itself jiu jitsu isnt all that formal anyways.

 

[Jin]

"90% of all fights end up on the ground..."

true... but I look at it this way.... those 90% of people don't know how to fight standing up in the first place.... the other 10%... mostly trained strikers and boxers....

and don't forget when you do get into a street fight.... its almost never 1 on 1 ... its more like you against his 6 friends or you and your 3 buds against his 5... thats melee fighting... *ahh.. my specialty!! ;-)~ * but the point is.... if you do end up grappling with the guy and your trying to choke him out... his friend will see this as a glorious opportunity for his boot to meet your face while you are
1. on the ground and not moving and 2. preoccupied with something else

I'm not saying grappling is not good... but you have to consider all the facters when in a "street fight" cause there is only one rule and there will always be only one rule...

survival of the fittest and best trained....

Best,

Jin

 

[Triangulo]

Dont take the fight to the ground if it is more than one opponent.
However, Ive been trainning brazilian jiujitsu for 2 years and it has done the job for 1 on 1 fighting(i got in two fights: fight 1 i took the guy down and mounted him, as soon as i started throwing punches he turned and i rear naked him. The other one, my opponent rushed me and we fell down, i was in the guard and triangled choked him, its my favorite move!). Its very effective and you dont need strength to execute the techniques, its all about leverage.
I say train in both bjj and muay thai. The leg kicks,elbows and knees are vicious and will take an opponent out very quickly. (ala vanderlei silva)
Try to avoid fighting, it will only bring trouble. Buy a punching bag and practice muay thai kicks (u kick with the chin), punches and knees.
I personally like the kick, punch and takedown combo. If we clinch, knees will be very effective(knees when you have side control are vicious! (silva vs sakuraba)

Ps. I dont care if you are a master of a mma, but if six guys surround you, you going to get your ass kicked. If more than 2 guys want to fight me, im going to be running!

 

[undesputable]

if you want to take 4 or 5 guys theres no martial art that will help you unless youre really experienced. and by the way theres many standing arm locks in jiu jitsu.....not to forget throws.....like the hip and shoulder throw that ar pretty big and if you land on the concrete you wont get up...

 

[elvis aint dead yet]

Depending on where your from, most people would never want to be in a real street fight. Unless they have a death wish.

There are too many other things involved in street fights to stay focused and disciplined.

Great to take martial arts or boxing for self-defense, self-improvement and to stay in shape, but to think it'll make you some Television hero, you are falsely gonna get yourself hurt or killed.

THe way you talk about this guy, he seems like a dirtball. And dirtballs usually have a few buddies around waiting if anything bad happens to their dirtball friend.

Defend yourself if something happens, but don't be afraid to take off. There are too many people who let anger control them and stand and fight while getting beat down beyond recoginition.

I don't know where you live, but I know where i grew up, there was no such thing as a 1 on 1 street fight. There was no such thing as a street fight without some kind of weapon.

Be able to defend yourself if crap goes down, but dont be afraid to take off as fast as possible so you can survive.

It's better to be some guy who ran away that still alive then some tough dead guy or some tough guy in a wheel chair or a tough guy with a blind eye or deaf ear.

Believe me, its a hell of a lot better to be alive.

 

[grifter]

yeah, does anyone here know any place online we can learn Jiu Jitsu from?? this sounds real cool. do u need to be in any physical shape? and do u have to go through a lot of strength training to get all of these techniques? where is the best place to learn?

 

[DJBen]

Learn the basics online if you MUST, then go to a proper dojo/dojang/whatever you want to call it. You need proper instruction.

If you're not in shape, it's not a requirement, but I'd go out running and lifting some weights. It'll be bennificial to your everyday activities, and also to your MA training.

If you want effective self-defence, a lot of places offer "street self defence" classes which are much more effective than MA's if you dont have the time and dedication to put into it. These places, if you catch a genuine one, will do all of the most effective and basic moves from almost every fighting system/MA.

Yeah, it's not as cool as saying "I'm a blackbelt in fukdangdo" but then again, you shouldnt be worrying about what belt you are anyways.

Ben

PS: Usually in a street situation, you're jumped/hit first anyway which usually makes you go down. So no matter how experienced you are, you'll probably go to the floor at some point. Also, I dont know if you watch AFC fights, but even some of the best strikers in there are frequently taken down by a basic takedowns. My personal beliefe is 80% go to the ground, but 90$ doesnt sound far off.

 

[lynx]

Learning to defend yourself is a good idea, although most street fights are unpredictable. Yes, you will probably end up on the ground. If it's a fair fight, the best man will win, but many streetfights are not fair. Some punk friend of your opponent might join the fight, and then more people, including your friends, might join, and it will get crazy. I've been in a few situations like that, and one time a friend got beaten up, and I was being held by some punks while he took the beating. All I could do was tell them in a stern voice, "Let him go, you cowards" and other similar stuff. We were both lucky, even though we both did our best to face the bastards with dignity. I know of others who weren't so lucky. The situation will escalate according to the kind of punk and environment you're fighting in. In the worst-case scenario, the punk you're fighting with will have a weapon, so I'd recommend learning how to defend yourself, but leaving the scene as soon as you can do so safely. There are some self-defense classes that teach you how to defend yourself and walk away with your life, but the most important thing is not to ever be in that type of situation.

I know what I wrote above probably doesn't apply to your situation, but I'm just mentioning this because you or others on this post may face this kind of danger in the future. I'm sure some have. You just never know what kind of crazies are out there.

 

[AFK Protector]

Yeah, lol I forgot to update on this one.

Okay, so I talked to the guy privately and I said that we're just friends and if he's uncomfortable with us talkign all the time, she's going to leave him for being a jealous ass.

So then he got a little offended and we talked it off. I helped him solve some of his girl problems lol. And we're friends now.


I also signed up for some training at this Hapkido Club that teaches street self-defense.