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IOI or AW?

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I was at a restaurant and this hostess kept walking by my table (going out of her way to walk that way) and kept brushing her hair and doing that shy look thing women do when they're interested. When I saw her standing around and not busy, I went up to her (didn't sneak up to her, just walked casually, made eye contact) and asked her when the open mic is, then introduced myself...she gave me her name and shook my hand, but looked shocked that I'd actually approached her.

I asked her if she had a facebook, she said she'd come over to my table. Not only did she not come over to my table, she went out of her way to not walk by.

This was months ago, and I found her on facebook on the restaurant's page. I"m wondering if I should bother sending her a message....because I'm not sure if she was ever interested, or just doing that hair **** to be an AW.
 

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thegator39 said:
....because I'm not sure if she was ever interested, or just doing that hair **** to be an AW.
Who would have thought that women act like that ???
 
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thegator39 said:
I was at a restaurant and this hostess kept walking by my table (going out of her way to walk that way) and kept brushing her hair and doing that shy look thing women do when they're interested. When I saw her standing around and not busy, I went up to her (didn't sneak up to her, just walked casually, made eye contact) and asked her when the open mic is, then introduced myself...she gave me her name and shook my hand, but looked shocked that I'd actually approached her.

I asked her if she had a facebook, she said she'd come over to my table. Not only did she not come over to my table, she went out of her way to not walk by.

This was months ago, and I found her on facebook on the restaurant's page. I"m wondering if I should bother sending her a message....because I'm not sure if she was ever interested, or just doing that hair **** to be an AW.

There are a number of things wrong with this.

A - I respect that you're assuming that she's attracted to you. It's an important quality. But I see nothing in this story that tells me she's an AW. Maybe she was looking at you, maybe not. Maybe she was brushing her hair because she felt like it. Don't get all weird and mad about it.

B - You assume she's attracted to you, so you go for Facebook? If you're gonna go in, then go all the way. Ask for a number.

C - And no you shouldn't send an unknown woman who semi-rejected you over a month ago a random Facebook message. For about 100 reasons. Terrible idea. Terrible, terrible, terrible idea.
 

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I would try to avoid girls that have facebook if you can. Facebook is too controversial and has ruined peoples lives and reps.

I call it Two-faced-book
 

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My online rep is already ruined. I've asked out at least 10 girls from my graduating class, so I won't be going to my reunion next year if there is one. I sent her a message asking if she waitresses there. I don't expect a response, I'm just desperate and don't have the social skills to talk to women properly in real life that I don't know due to a severe disability.
 

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Facebook gets you hired, fired, deleted, defeated, evicted, convicted, laid, and paid.

The attraction has gotta be dead between you two by now. Why didn't you get her phone # instead of Facebook? Damn, dating was so much easier in the 80's & 90's.

Women know how to feign interest very well, by dangling the carrot (pu$$y) to get you to spend more money. The restaurants are more concerned about two things; Your money and healthiness of the place.


Take IOI's with a grain of salt. The woman still gotta date you and f**k you, etc. Some guys see one IOI and they think the girl wants them all on them.

I call it Flakebook.
 

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My online rep is already ruined. I've asked out at least 10 girls from my graduating class, so I won't be going to my reunion next year if there is one. I sent her a message asking if she waitresses there. I don't expect a response, I'm just desperate and don't have the social skills to talk to women properly in real life that I don't know due to a severe disability.

Well you weren't too disabled to walk up to the waitress and ask for her Facebook.

You're just trying to take the easy way out. Which is kind of insulting considering the amount of work that I put into turning my life around. Either you go out there and put in the work, accepting that it's going to be painful. Or you call it quits.
 

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I went up to her because I thought it was a sure thing. Usually I don't do anything. And autism is a serious disability and enough to turn off most women.
 

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Homie I want you to take a good look at your right hand. Now slap the sh1t out of yourself for thinking about messaging this b*tch. If she not interested the LEAVE THE B*TCH ALONE!
 

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thegator39 said:
I was at a restaurant and this hostess kept walking by my table (going out of her way to walk that way) and kept brushing her hair and doing that shy look thing women do when they're interested. When I saw her standing around and not busy, I went up to her (didn't sneak up to her, just walked casually, made eye contact) and asked her when the open mic is, then introduced myself...she gave me her name and shook my hand, but looked shocked that I'd actually approached her.

I asked her if she had a facebook, she said she'd come over to my table. Not only did she not come over to my table, she went out of her way to not walk by.
You really are naive. You fell for the good ol hired gun giving you "signals" and thinking she actually has the hots for you.

That's what these women get paid to do. You go to any mall, a strip club, restaurant or whatever and the women there will be all smiles, all eye contact, as friendly as can be, all personality, trying to get you to enjoy yourself or spend money. They are hired for those abilities not for being shy and reserved.

It's ok though you ain't the first or last nice guy to fall for this stuff. Women in these type of jobs usually go for real a**holes who don't get taken aback by their personalities and treat them like sh**. These women got a legion of men trying to get at them thinking they're awesome you have to have good game and be alpha to get them.

DEFINITION OF A HIRED GUN:


Hired Guns can range from waitresses, to strippers, to sales girls at the mall stores, who are hired specifically for their beauty. Because these women are being paid to be friendly, they are often great targets for GPUAs getting into the game to practice their game and overcome their anxiety of talking to attractive women.

Actually picking up a hired gun is somewhat difficult, as they are hit on all the time, and also often throw out fake IOIs for their own gain.
 

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1.)I know what a hired gun is.

2.)This is a mom and pops type restaurant, and she wasn't my waitress....in fact she was a hostess. What does she have to gain by looking at me other than an ego boost? which would make her pathetic.

3.)She was like 19 or 20 and not smoking hot.

4.)Either way, it's not going to lead to anything, so I won't contact her anymore.
 

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That's what these women get paid to do. You go to any mall, a strip club, restaurant or whatever and the women there will be all smiles, all eye contact, as friendly as can be, all personality, trying to get you to enjoy yourself or spend money. They are hired for those abilities not for being shy and reserved.
 

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Well I must say that never happens to me...women never look at me unless it's to make fun of me and even that is rare.
 

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stupid...I'm black. IDIOT
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

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thegator39 said:
I went up to her because I thought it was a sure thing. Usually I don't do anything. And autism is a serious disability and enough to turn off most women.
Major props to you for trying. Socially Autism is a biatch to have, so congrats on taking the initiative in this instance.

Well I must say that never happens to me...women never look at me unless it's to make fun of me and even that is rare.
Never ever be down on yourself. You posting experiences may be helping others. And even what you have achieved is a milestone in my book.

I've asked out at least 10 girls from my graduating class
Is a positive, and probably more then most guys would ever attempt to ask out in a lifetime.

Developing your game will be harder and throws up an interesting challenge, but never say never.
 

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thegator39 said:
My online rep is already ruined. I've asked out at least 10 girls from my graduating class, so I won't be going to my reunion next year if there is one.I sent her a message asking if she waitresses there. I don't expect a response, I'm just desperate and don't have the social skills to talk to women properly in real life that I don't know due to a severe disability.
You are so WEAK!
 

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If you don't like it, you don't have to read it. Personally sex can't be this great to be worth all this trouble.

Also, I didn't just ask the girls out...in two of the situations I persisted to online stalker levels and didn't give up because I never heard the word "no" and take people literally when they say "I'm busy but maybe in a month or two."
 
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