Internet censorship is here in Australia!

[wolf116]

So much for this being a kiddie porn censorship.

4chan/b/ is blocked! I'm so pissed right now and I hardly ever visited 4chan.
The internet is the greatest thing this world has at the moment and it's being taken from us.

Anti-govnment sites and anti-abortion sites with pics of dead fetuses are on the blacklist!

I'm also really scared for internet poker with talks of banning online gambolling.

I hate censorship more then anything, our freedom of speech and information is being taken!

If anyone knows of a /b/ rebelion that I can join let me know.

If anyone knows of any protests or anti-censorship groups I can join PM me.

I feel like throwing a petrol bomb at the building responsible for this and kicking some cops.

http://sydney.indymedia.org.au/story/all-aboard-failboat-acma-censoring-anonymous

 

[Alle_Gory]

If anyone knows of any protests or anti-censorship groups I can join PM me.

It wouldn't be a problem if the people responsible had to take extremely extended vacations abroad.

That's the only way. They have the power, you do not. Protesting works, but it takes so long and alot of people get hurt.

Those is power need to relax for a long while. Clear out their heads.

 

[wolf116]

http://www.uberreview.com/2009/03/w...-internet-blacklist-says-about-censorship.htm

Among the 2,395 sites that are on the list there are also online poker sites, certain Wikipedia pages, YouTube links, gay and straight porn sites, euthanasia pages, sites belonging to fringe religions and some Christian websites

If internet poker is taken from me I will murder!

 

[wolf116]

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[Bible_Belt]

Notice they took your guns before this happened.

I would guess that the Great Obama would support such Net censorship in the states.

 

[wolf116]

Notice they took your guns before this happened.

I would guess that the Great Obama would support such Net censorship in the states.

I have mixed feelings about the guns thing. We have basicially 0 murders in Australia compared to America. Plus we are allowed guns we just need a licence and they can't be automatic. Shotguns and hunting rifles are fine.

 

[seagull]

Another disaster thanks to Kevin Rudd. In government for less than 2 years and has mortgaged Australia's future in such a short time. Hope the Liberals return to power soon before Dudd does permanent damage to a once prosperous country.

 

[Rho]

/b/ is down anyway due to a DDoS attack

 

[Bible_Belt]

I have mixed feelings about the guns thing. We have basically 0 murders in Australia compared to America.

I looked it up. You do have a lot fewer.

AU murder rate is just under 2 murders per 100,000 people:
http://www.gunsandcrime.org/auresult.html

US murder rate is about 5 or 6 murders per 100,000 people:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_01.html

Curiously, though, what surprised me the most is that the Australian gun ban seems to have not affected crime rates much at all. Both sides in the debate lie to support their side, with each claiming that statistics support them.

 

[wolf116]

Another disaster thanks to Kevin Rudd. In government for less than 2 years and has mortgaged Australia's future in such a short time. Hope the Liberals return to power soon before Dudd does permanent damage to a once prosperous country.

Hell no. Labor and Liberal are basicially the same thing. Liberal was trying to introduce a national ID card before they were voted out.

It looks like good news for the internet censorship thing. Only some ISP were affected on a trial run that should be kicked out by the Greens, especially now the secret black-list was leaked.

 

[wolf116]

I looked it up. You do have a lot fewer.

AU murder rate is just under 2 murders per 100,000 people:
http://www.gunsandcrime.org/auresult.html

US murder rate is about 5 or 6 murders per 100,000 people:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_01.html

Curiously, though, what surprised me the most is that the Australian gun ban seems to have not affected crime rates much at all. Both sides in the debate lie to support their side, with each claiming that statistics support them.

Australia was undergoing a population boom which may have skewed the figures, as we were importing people for countries with higher crime rates then us (I love immigration BTW = more exotic women).

TBH I would hate to live in a country that had people carring guns around. Just the thought that they could have you killed at any moment without anything you could do is scary enough for me. We also never have things like school shootings and it's much harder to commit armed robbery with a knife.

We have guns anyway. If you want to protect your home join a gun club and get a lever-action shotgun. Tho I've never felt the need to tho, I don't even lock my doors at night and i live in the city.

what do you what guns for anyway?

 

[Luthor Rex]

Curiously, though, what surprised me the most is that the Australian gun ban seems to have not affected crime rates much at all. Both sides in the debate lie to support their side, with each claiming that statistics support them.

The availability of firearms does not impact the rate of crime.

Look around the world and you'll see it's true. Israel and Sweden have a firearm ownership rate of almost 100% and yet they both have lower crime rates than the U.S.. (Not counting terrorism in Israel, only looking at Israeli on Israeli violence.) Yet you'll also find countries like Japan which has no real access to guns and yet has a lower crime rate than the U.S.. Except for murder and rape England has worse crime than the U.S. (or at least it did for a decade or so there, it may still be true)

Around the world we have all four combination of the following:

Countries with lots of guns and little crime
countries with lots of guns and a lot of crime
countries with few guns and little crime
countries with few guns and a lot of crime

Therefore: the availability of guns does not change the rate of crime.

Neither side of the gun control debate will deal with this fact because it's 1.) counter-intuitive and 2.) it doesn't help either position.

 

[ketostix]

Australia was undergoing a population boom which may have skewed the figures, as we were importing people for countries with higher crime rates then us (I love immigration BTW = more exotic women).

TBH I would hate to live in a country that had people carring guns around. Just the thought that they could have you killed at any moment without anything you could do is scary enough for me. We also never have things like school shootings and it's much harder to commit armed robbery with a knife.

We have guns anyway. If you want to protect your home join a gun club and get a lever-action shotgun. Tho I've never felt the need to tho, I don't even lock my doors at night and i live in the city.

what do you what guns for anyway?

Yeah well Mexico probably has stricter gun laws than Australia and they have more gun violence. Granted they don't have as good control. Point is it's not guns that causes violence, it's people.

The big point you're overlooking is you don't really have the right to keep and bear arms and you are also losing a lot of other rights along with that. It's a repeated theme of governments to take guns away before they take most every other right away. Your reasoning that people having guns is dangerous so they must be taken away is the same reasoning that could be used for free speech, freedom of religion, and any other materials or information the government deems "dangerous". The original concept in America is that the people should be "dangerous" and the government should fear the people not the other way around.

 

[Luthor Rex]

Just the thought that they could have you killed at any moment without anything you could do is scary enough for me.

99.9% of the time people don't randomly shoot other people. Then ones who do tend to be mentally ill. Even in the worse parts of the worst cities in the U.S. there is always a reason for an attack. Robbery, revenge, gang warfare whatever, it's never really random. Even Columbine H.S. wasn't random: the shooters were seeking revenge against those they thought harmed them.

Tho I've never felt the need to tho, I don't even lock my doors at night and i live in the city.

That wouldn't end well in most U.S. cities.

what do you what guns for anyway?

The human right to life cannot be sustained with a right to self defense. The right to concealed carry does two things: 1.) it makes it so that criminals never know who is armed and no sane criminal wants to hit a hard target, 2.) it gives me the ability to defend myself against someone else with a gun or, against multiple attackers who may or may not have weapons.

First and foremost I am responsible for my safety, which is why I prefer the right to own and carry a gun.

 

[piranha45]

Well said, props to you Luthor Rex, I wholeheartedly agree.

Criminals will always have access to guns; the government can only decide whether they will have LEGAL access to guns.

I appreciate the ability to inflict maximum violence on those who would attempt the same upon me. I carry a gun because it's alot more portable and reliable than a cop.

And as the oft-repeated phrase goes, "Gun control is not about guns, it's about control".

 

[Alle_Gory]

Notice they took your guns before this happened.

I would guess that the Great Obama would support such Net censorship in the states.

There's all sorts of ways to make non functional replica weapons from everyday tools.

If the populace learned how to make these non-functional weapons, we would all feel safer.

 

[wolf116]

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Damn that sucks, how'd you guys let it happen?

What are you guys gonna do about it?

Everything was done under the desk and the public was only told in passing that some child porn sites whould be banned.

The greens have a good shot of kicking it out. It hasnt gone through yet, a trial test was just run.