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Obviously the thread is mainly concerned with the fact that short men are unattractive, but it has some relevance in the discussion about the male-female dynamic, alpha & beta men, nice guy vs. jerk, etc., irregardless of a man's height.
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(post #1)
I've been out tonight and I'm a little drunk, so I'll post again when
I'm more sober but I just wanted to make a couple of points.
I've been watching, posting on the newsgroup for a while now. I used to
be peter_rogers2000 ... on here.
I just wanted to say about the peoples opinions I respect the most on
here. I'd say for any short guy reading this forum I'd listen to
Apetrouser, Geoff and James the most.
I think they provide the most constructive and true opinions of how the
world really works.
Personally, I do think it's alot harder for a shorter man to find a
woman than a taller man. I do think that many women would choose a
taller man who is more of an ass over a shorter man who is a nicer
person. But I don't think it's a lost cause for shorter men. Alot of
what taller men gain through their height eg, confidence, respect
amongst other men, job promotions etc. they often lose in other areas.
Taller men, on average, aren't as caring, sensitive, loyal, trusting.
Most younger women try to change alot of taller men in to the man they
want. It doesn't normally work. Taller men are often used to getting
what they want through physical intimidation. They often live by that
which makes them worse inside as people. The confidence women love
often turns to arrogance which often means they cheat or abuse their
partners.
That's why some women choose to go for shorter men. They realise many
taller men will never be fully what they want them to be. Shorter men
are, on average, more caring, considerate, loving than taller men. They
live in a world which teaches them they're not as good as taller men.
Look at dating preferences, adverts, how men treat other men, bullying
at school etc.
Although Msx would probably disagree with me I think he'd be stupid to
say that quite a few taller men don't think they're better than shorter
men for nothing more than their physical size.
In a perfect world women would love a man who could protect them, gain
the respect of other men and be a really caring and sensitive partner,
who wouldn't cheat on them, would give them the love they deserve and
treat them well.
So in a perfect world a woman would love a tall man who would be
caring, sensitive and make them happy.
In the real world many taller men aren't very caring, sensitive etc.
They're used to attracting mates through their height alone. Most macho
men just think of themselves rather than their partners.
That's where the key lies. A woman is naturally attracted to "dominant
males" but most "dominant males" aren't very nice men inside. A woman
can either choose to ignore his shortcomings or look for someone who
gives her what she needs on a personal level.
Many "alpha males" are just players. They don't really care about
anyone other than themselves. Aslong as they get what they want, which
they normally get easily, they don't care.
Young women are more likely to fall for alpha males and will try to
change them, thinking that if they love me enough, they'll change. It
doesn't often happen.
Most players are self loving asses who get so used to attracting
females with their looks, height that they never really care about
anything much other than themselves.
That's why alot of women complain about how "arrogant" men are when
it's only because they choose to date "arrogant" "player" men.
They might complain about how arrogant men are, but at the same time
they would always date a taller, converntionally good looking guy,
who's arrogant, over a shorter man.
Most shorter men, on average, are more caring and considerate to women.
As women get older, in general, they start to realise how men work.
Alot of players won't care about a womans emotional needs, all they
care about is sex etc. If a woman becomes too old they'll just move on
to someone younger.
That's why alot of "superficial" women end up looking stupid.
They go for a "dominant" male then get pissed off when mr.dominant male
sods off with someone younger when they hit a certain age.
What goes around comes around. A woman who is too superficial will just
end up with someone who cheats on her, lies to her, doesn't really care
about her, and won't emotionally support her.
Not all women are stupid though, just like not all men are stupid. Alot
of women realise what many men are like. They know which men are "real"
and which men are just acting for "sex".
That's why intelligent women choose to date nice guys, wether they be
short or tall.
There is hope in that respect. Just alot of women are shallow and
superficial just like many men. But most of those people end up lonely
because everyones looks go at some point in time and then all you're
left with is the person inside and that's when they suffer.
Generally I think women are attracted to "dominant males" but most
dominant males by their very nature are *******s. They get everything
in life too easy so never really appreciate what they have.
Just like many men are attracted to great looking women but many great
looking women are *****es by their very nature, because they get men
too easily etc.
It's all a question of balance and that doesn't mean that all tall good
looking guys are asses or that all good looking women are *****es it
just means that on average the thing that attracts someone to a mate is
often the very thing they find so unattractive about them.
People that are smart though, realise that it's not just about looks,
it's about how happy another person can make you feel inside. How loved
they can make you feel. And that's not determined by what height you
are.
There's examples on this board that prove the truth in that.
Yep, alot of women are superficial. That's not debated but don't give
up hope because of some idiots in society.
Not all women are the same. Life shapes people. There's lots of good
and bad women. Ok, on average most women don't prefer short men but
quite a few women just want someone who loves them and shows them
respect just like quite a few short men do.
Live in hope ....
(post #2)
So after the tall guy gives his genes to the girl then decides to leave
her, the short guy can come in and take care of the girl and her 3 kids
(post #3)
This was the case on this retarded show I was watching last nite, some
women (43 years old with 4 daughters) was getting married to some short
guy who was 10 years younger then her
And this world is built for alpha males, if you are to nice you are a push
over and if you are short and outspoken(alpha male traits) you are laughed
at and viewed as having a napoleon complex,, it is a lose lose,,, I guess
when I hit my 40's and the women loses her looks and she has a few kids
she will find me attrative, I'd rather kill myself or live a life by
myself and jerk off if I feel the need to have sex.....
*********************************************
(post #1)
I've been out tonight and I'm a little drunk, so I'll post again when
I'm more sober but I just wanted to make a couple of points.
I've been watching, posting on the newsgroup for a while now. I used to
be peter_rogers2000 ... on here.
I just wanted to say about the peoples opinions I respect the most on
here. I'd say for any short guy reading this forum I'd listen to
Apetrouser, Geoff and James the most.
I think they provide the most constructive and true opinions of how the
world really works.
Personally, I do think it's alot harder for a shorter man to find a
woman than a taller man. I do think that many women would choose a
taller man who is more of an ass over a shorter man who is a nicer
person. But I don't think it's a lost cause for shorter men. Alot of
what taller men gain through their height eg, confidence, respect
amongst other men, job promotions etc. they often lose in other areas.
Taller men, on average, aren't as caring, sensitive, loyal, trusting.
Most younger women try to change alot of taller men in to the man they
want. It doesn't normally work. Taller men are often used to getting
what they want through physical intimidation. They often live by that
which makes them worse inside as people. The confidence women love
often turns to arrogance which often means they cheat or abuse their
partners.
That's why some women choose to go for shorter men. They realise many
taller men will never be fully what they want them to be. Shorter men
are, on average, more caring, considerate, loving than taller men. They
live in a world which teaches them they're not as good as taller men.
Look at dating preferences, adverts, how men treat other men, bullying
at school etc.
Although Msx would probably disagree with me I think he'd be stupid to
say that quite a few taller men don't think they're better than shorter
men for nothing more than their physical size.
In a perfect world women would love a man who could protect them, gain
the respect of other men and be a really caring and sensitive partner,
who wouldn't cheat on them, would give them the love they deserve and
treat them well.
So in a perfect world a woman would love a tall man who would be
caring, sensitive and make them happy.
In the real world many taller men aren't very caring, sensitive etc.
They're used to attracting mates through their height alone. Most macho
men just think of themselves rather than their partners.
That's where the key lies. A woman is naturally attracted to "dominant
males" but most "dominant males" aren't very nice men inside. A woman
can either choose to ignore his shortcomings or look for someone who
gives her what she needs on a personal level.
Many "alpha males" are just players. They don't really care about
anyone other than themselves. Aslong as they get what they want, which
they normally get easily, they don't care.
Young women are more likely to fall for alpha males and will try to
change them, thinking that if they love me enough, they'll change. It
doesn't often happen.
Most players are self loving asses who get so used to attracting
females with their looks, height that they never really care about
anything much other than themselves.
That's why alot of women complain about how "arrogant" men are when
it's only because they choose to date "arrogant" "player" men.
They might complain about how arrogant men are, but at the same time
they would always date a taller, converntionally good looking guy,
who's arrogant, over a shorter man.
Most shorter men, on average, are more caring and considerate to women.
As women get older, in general, they start to realise how men work.
Alot of players won't care about a womans emotional needs, all they
care about is sex etc. If a woman becomes too old they'll just move on
to someone younger.
That's why alot of "superficial" women end up looking stupid.
They go for a "dominant" male then get pissed off when mr.dominant male
sods off with someone younger when they hit a certain age.
What goes around comes around. A woman who is too superficial will just
end up with someone who cheats on her, lies to her, doesn't really care
about her, and won't emotionally support her.
Not all women are stupid though, just like not all men are stupid. Alot
of women realise what many men are like. They know which men are "real"
and which men are just acting for "sex".
That's why intelligent women choose to date nice guys, wether they be
short or tall.
There is hope in that respect. Just alot of women are shallow and
superficial just like many men. But most of those people end up lonely
because everyones looks go at some point in time and then all you're
left with is the person inside and that's when they suffer.
Generally I think women are attracted to "dominant males" but most
dominant males by their very nature are *******s. They get everything
in life too easy so never really appreciate what they have.
Just like many men are attracted to great looking women but many great
looking women are *****es by their very nature, because they get men
too easily etc.
It's all a question of balance and that doesn't mean that all tall good
looking guys are asses or that all good looking women are *****es it
just means that on average the thing that attracts someone to a mate is
often the very thing they find so unattractive about them.
People that are smart though, realise that it's not just about looks,
it's about how happy another person can make you feel inside. How loved
they can make you feel. And that's not determined by what height you
are.
There's examples on this board that prove the truth in that.
Yep, alot of women are superficial. That's not debated but don't give
up hope because of some idiots in society.
Not all women are the same. Life shapes people. There's lots of good
and bad women. Ok, on average most women don't prefer short men but
quite a few women just want someone who loves them and shows them
respect just like quite a few short men do.
Live in hope ....
(post #2)
So after the tall guy gives his genes to the girl then decides to leave
her, the short guy can come in and take care of the girl and her 3 kids
(post #3)
This was the case on this retarded show I was watching last nite, some
women (43 years old with 4 daughters) was getting married to some short
guy who was 10 years younger then her
And this world is built for alpha males, if you are to nice you are a push
over and if you are short and outspoken(alpha male traits) you are laughed
at and viewed as having a napoleon complex,, it is a lose lose,,, I guess
when I hit my 40's and the women loses her looks and she has a few kids
she will find me attrative, I'd rather kill myself or live a life by
myself and jerk off if I feel the need to have sex.....
That reminds me, an aquaintance of mine is a top pro bodybuilder - he's only 5'4" but has hooked up with some amazing looking fitness models.