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Social conditioning is one hell of a chitshow. It's unfortunate that's it's only getting worse given the rise of feminism, amongst other changes.
 

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One article I was reading says it all starts with pua and the manosphere, and"those guys" eventually get fed up when pua/msnosphere tactics fail, and then turn into angry incels.

Claimed this is exactly what WILL happen to y'all.
You seem happy about it. ;)

This incident will only embolden women.

‘’Wow, this guy goes and kills multiple multiple women because they rejected his sexual advances. I didn’t know I had this much emotional power over my boyfriend. Guess I can talk back / threaten / insult / bankrupt my boyfriend now since now I know he wouldn’t dare to leave me. The sex I give him is EXTREMELY valuable!’
 
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All I can say is - thank **** he failed out of the military. No need to mar the military's name with someone so vile and horrific.

I say it doesn't matter if he was 'sex starved' or whatever excuse he may have had for being stressed/depressed/insert mental illness here. If he had a problem with his own life, he should have taken his own without involving others. He had a failure to take responsibility for himself, for better or worse. For him to willingly take the lives of 10 innocents and severely injure 15 others - I can hope he rots in jail for the rest of his miserable life.
 
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You seem happy about it. ;)

This incident will only embolden women.

‘’Wow, this guy goes and kills multiple multiple women because they rejected his sexual advances. I didn’t know I had this much emotional power over my boyfriend. Guess I can talk back / threaten / insult / bankrupt my boyfriend now since now I know he wouldn’t dare to leave me. The sex I give him is EXTREMELY valuable!’
Thank God for hookers so I don't have to put up with female nonsense just to try to get laid.

They understand that men can't live without sex, so they use this to their advantage every day. Even ugly ones do this.

It's like if food was conscious of itself.
 

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The incels in that link want the government to “outlaw Chad for having multiple partners.” LMAO

Not on my dime.
Is this really any different from femynists who have outlaws prostitution? In both situations, it is many-to-one, just that Chad doesn't pay for it.
 

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as a species, do 'incels' only inhabit North America?
 

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Governments and think tanks need to consider that episodes like this one will increase in number and intensity.

The amount of guys/men in his condition is big enough already and it will be even bigger in future, the polarization in terms of sex, social connections and validation is running in 5th gear right now.

Except that unlike pissed off women, those men clearly have technical abilities and processing intelligence to plan actions much more effective than "protesting on the streets or filling lawsuit", they lack the power of the group and the capacity to influence lobbies but what they lack as a group, they have in terms of being ready to do unlimited violence at the cost of their own life.

Someone suggests to legalize prostitutution but I'm my opinion that wont help much, surely it will mitigate the yet what ignite those guys are psychological reasons, from bullism to being left over cause they dont fit to a certain archetype.

Just like its no longer tolerated to stare some girls boob at school and that leads to harsh conseguences if reported, at the same time it should not be tolerated bullism against fragile individuals like those, by bullism I dont mean stereotypical actions we see in movies, I mean clear shows of disrespect or open underserved mockery.

Those guys who have nothing going on in their lifes are also a potential target for islamists to be recruited, as much as religion clearly wont help their condition, it will at least give them a reason to live and a chance to get the attention they crave.
 

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Boys trained into men by women = incels.

Edit: I'm not saying women are to be blamed, it's men neglecting their offspring and also enabling women to monopolise all aspects of boys educational needs.
Agree on that, its like trying to install android on iphone then complain that it doesnt work.
 
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Governments and think tanks need to consider that episodes like this one will increase in number and intensity.

The amount of guys/men in his condition is big enough already and it will be even bigger in future, the polarization in terms of sex, social connections and validation is running in 5th gear right now.

Except that unlike pissed off women, those men clearly have technical abilities and processing intelligence to plan actions much more effective than "protesting on the streets or filling lawsuit", they lack the power of the group and the capacity to influence lobbies but what they lack as a group, they have in terms of being ready to do unlimited violence at the cost of their own life.

Someone suggests to legalize prostitutution but I'm my opinion that wont help much, surely it will mitigate the yet what ignite those guys are psychological reasons, from bullism to being left over cause they dont fit to a certain archetype.

Just like its no longer tolerated to stare some girls boob at school and that leads to harsh conseguences if reported, at the same time it should not be tolerated bullism against fragile individuals like those, by bullism I dont mean stereotypical actions we see in movies, I mean clear shows of disrespect or open underserved mockery.

Those guys who have nothing going on in their lifes are also a potential target for islamists to be recruited, as much as religion clearly wont help their condition, it will at least give them a reason to live and a chance to get the attention they crave.
I'm not a big fan of today's feminism, but really? You think killing people and going to jail for the rest of your life or getting shot dead by police conveys a technical ability and processing intelligence to plan more effective actions? More effective than lobbying for legislative policy change?


He ran a van into several people, both genders of varying ages.

Let's be real here. This guy was not well and his one tweet about incels and chads is just the tip of whatever his issues are.

And if some guy can't get laid by anyone, there's a reason for that and it has nothing to do with society, women, feminism, left wing etc. The reason he couldn't get laid is the same reason behind his actions on Monday.

Not getting laid doesn't turn the average guy into a mass murderer.
 

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I'm not a big fan of today's feminism, but really? You think killing people and going to jail for the rest of your life or getting shot dead by police conveys a technical ability and processing intelligence to plan more effective actions? More effective than lobbying for legislative policy change?


He ran a van into several people, both genders of varying ages.

Let's be real here. This guy was not well and his one tweet about incels and chads is just the tip of whatever his issues are.

And if some guy can't get laid by anyone, there's a reason for that and it has nothing to do with society, women, feminism, left wing etc. The reason he couldn't get laid is the same reason behind his actions on Monday.

Not getting laid doesn't turn the average guy into a mass murderer.
It's hard for you to understand it AJ and that's understandable.

This young man, he fits the criteria of a male infused with ideas of how to be manly by a women who has never lived her life in a mans shoe. I'm uncertain of this; but it's likely he's raised in a single household.

All he was thought to believe in doesn't work in real life. He will ultimately end up so confused and feels frustrated with multiple rejections. Some manage to improvise, learn, improve and get over it while others like him goes on a rampage.

Even on this site, there's a few women haters even with all that was conveyed and being thought to them here, they still remain confused and frustrated. To change they must 1st destroyed everything they had learned and begin anew. It's not an easy task especially if the person has an above average IQ.
 

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Why? Because we can't have sex without them?

A bowl of rice is worth everything to a guy who is starving, and worth practically nothing to someone who just ate.

It's pretty pathetic that the only value your gender has is a hole between their legs. Back in caveman times, cavemen would trade food to cavewomen for sex. That's the only way cavewomen survived and the only thing they had to offer to the group.
When you are starving even a moldy tomato looks good to eat
I personally didn't realize how much value men placed on women.

Honestly, it seems ridiculous but I realize it's testosterone driven, and that's why I can't directly relate to the drive.
 

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I personally didn't realize how much value men placed on women.

Honestly, it seems ridiculous but I realize it's testosterone driven, and that's why I can't directly relate to the drive.
Well you have to understand that the less you have of something the more valuable it becomes. There are LOTS of guys out there who have dates/sex very infrequently...

These guys place an enormous importsnce on women because they dont have any. Its like a guy who has a million dollars versus a guy who has 5 dollars...the guy who has a million dollars will be much more careless in his spending than the guy who has 5 dollars...why? Because he has enough money to spend some frivolously while thr other guy does not...the guy with 5 dollars might be running through the trash cans in the city collecting beer cans and pop cans to recycle to try and make another 5 or 10 dollars..an amount the millionaire probably spends on stuff he doesnt need on a daily basis.

Its like anything in life...the more a person has of any one thing the less importance they put on a singular instance of it...if they have none or only one they put a much greater importance on it.
 

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I'm not a big fan of today's feminism, but really? You think killing people and going to jail for the rest of your life or getting shot dead by police conveys a technical ability and processing intelligence to plan more effective actions? More effective than lobbying for legislative policy change?


He ran a van into several people, both genders of varying ages.

Let's be real here. This guy was not well and his one tweet about incels and chads is just the tip of whatever his issues are.

And if some guy can't get laid by anyone, there's a reason for that and it has nothing to do with society, women, feminism, left wing etc. The reason he couldn't get laid is the same reason behind his actions on Monday.

Not getting laid doesn't turn the average guy into a mass murderer.
You misunderstood my post, i'm not pointing at feminism or other factors to be "guilty" (guilty meant as active willing offender) nor i'm saying that guy did the right thing (killing innocents is never the solution to anything).

I'm just talking about reality, if you push someone against a wall wheter he deservers or not, he will push back.

There is no need for me to explain you that men and women work differently and while women are herd creature, men are competitive and ladder climbing which makes the "group fighting and lobby plans" undoable for men as you can see in everyday world.

When I talk about techincal abilities I talk about the ability to plan and execute an action that kills many unarmed while last time a woman did (see youtube attack), she fails to get any decent result despite being armed.

This raging ticking time bombs have the skills and analytical intelligence of beta nerds while their anger and desperation unlike those nerds, push them to fight and take hits uncaring of their own life.

My point has nothing to do with moral, its a plain vision of current reality and the actors at play.

I personally dont give a fvck about poor people or immigrants but at the same time I know that if ignited they have all the tools to create an overwhelming amount of damages and thats the reason why we spend money to keep them above a certain level of satisfaction.
 

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Just the word "incel" is a complete lie. It's not involuntary, they're just super sh!tty guys and blame women instead of realizing just how sh!tty they are and do something about it. If I were a woman I too would stay the fvck away from these self proclaimed incels, because they are socially destructive and refuse to learn.
Just because you are not experiencing that doesn't mean its not real. They are "nice guys". Look at other people like bigdave17 who are dedicated people but aren't getting traction on the type of women they feel they deserve.

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Blaming women for a man's loss of self-control is insane. You can look at it from one side and say "he did this because he got rejected, thus men should not be rejected". You can look at it from the other side and understand he was rejected because he was a fvcking douchebag and would totally have been abusive to any girl who complied with him.
But it's usually the abusive types of guys, or alpha males, that get the girls, right? The quiet, nice and passive nice guys usually don't get the traction out there. We would treat any woman involved with us with kid gloves and it's usually they that are abusive towards us after taking us for granted.

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These guys are the ultimate losers, I understand what drives them, but it's absolutely not an excuse in any way. It's ridiculously irresponsible.
Just because something isn't working out in life does not mean you get violent about it. Someone could lose their job and go on a shooting rampage. Someone could have experienced a break-up (i.e. if they just got out of a relationship they are not incel right, or they wouldn't be in that relationship in the first place?) The LA shooter wasn't incel, he had a Filipino girlfriend before he shot rounds into a crowd in LA. Also, most of these people are WHITE, or have a WHITE-CARD. They are plenty of BLACK and BROWN incels -- look at trainwreck for example, he's Black. Blacks DO NOT BEHAVE LIKE THAT IF THEY GET REJECTED. Most people just seek out prostitutes or watch porn rather than kill people. If anything, I think it's B.S. White people can always get an ASIAN girlfriend or a BLACK woman, but if someone acts up because some nice Stacey rejects him and goes for a Black guy instead and they take it personal, then that's a race issue, not an incel issue.
 
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