IN some places, being a player can be dangerous to your health!

[MatureDJ]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/10/07/saudi.sex.braggart/index.html?eref=time_world

(CNN) -- A Saudi court on Wednesday sentenced a man who caused uproar by bragging about his sex life on television to five years in prison and 1,000 lashes, according to Ministry of Information officials.

 

[WaterTiger]

You're talking about a country where:

:nervous: You don't see your wife's face till AFTER your married.
Eight year old girls are married to grown men to pay off their fathers debts.
You can get put in jail for telling some one about another religion that is not Islam.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Moralism in action.

Sounds like a utopia, right?

 

[SXS]

The guy is an big idiot, he should get the death penalty.
In a country where premarital sex is a crime, he goes online brag about it... :crazy:

That would be pretty much like maddof going online to brag about his schemes...

Moralism in action.

Sounds like a utopia, right?

Not exactly moralism in action, but simply a place in the who still tries to keep it's traditions, instead of becoming a copy of a western society.

 

[wjh]

^ moral relativists are cowards.

 

[slaog]

We can mock the Saudi's but one thing is for sure, their women respect them more then western women respect their men. So what does that tell you? I don't agree with the Saudi's but I can see why they are so strict. Look at what liberalism have done to western society.

 

[scrouds]

Respect, or fear?

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

You know, I've used other culture's moralistic norms to illustrate how one size morality doesn't fit all countless times. No one's ever responded to it with any substantial counter-argument. Honestly I think hyper-moralistic societies are more a reflection of beta men's possessive insecurities than some idealized alpha male utopia. One of the most frequent debates I get into is about coercing submission from a woman in an LTR with ultimatums, as opposed to having the Game and strength of character to provoke her desire, love and respect of her own accord. In fact the definition of their quality woman is one who can be intimidated into "loving" her man.

Orthodox Islamic society is a perfect illustration of this intimidation principle wrapped conveniently in absolute moralism. It's not enough to allay their lack of Game by socially and religiously forcing their women never to dress in certain ways; they should be dressed head to toe in a Burqa, walk 8 paces behind their husbands, never speak to any man not her husband, never drive a car, and risk an 'honor killing' should she dare step over the moralistic norm. This isn't Alpha society, this is beta society so afraid that they'd never be able to sexually compete in a natural setting that they need to elevate their insecurities to a superstitious manipulation of their own society.

This guy who was alpha enough to "brag" about his sexual exploits is just on the receiving end of this beta controlled society (masquerading as Alpha) wanting to punish him as an example.

 

[wait_out]

Saudi Arabia is not an alpha or beta society, it is a police state. Their morality is like the 2 Minutes Hate in 1984. Out-group hatred serves to reduce in-group tension. Highly public scapegoats deflect criticism of the royal family's own oppression, corruption, etc. Do you think they pimp out A380 Jumbo jets so they can practice a life of austerity and get back to the true principles "during the time of the Prophet Mohammed"? F--k, Saudi Arabia is a tier 3 country in human trafficking and exploits Muslim children from poorer countries as prostitutes.

It's quite easy to feel superior, but considering the links between the al Saud family and your own government -- well, make up your own mind. There is no shortage of pissed off CIA spooks sickened by the fact normal Americans are dying, at home and overseas, because the West supports these pricks through both economic dependence and military cooperation.

http://www.amazon.com/Sleeping-Devil-Washington-Saudi-Crude/dp/1400050219

I wish more people would try to be informed about international affairs but you cannot get much of a handle on a country from a "gee that's weird!" article on CNN, you have to do actual research and ideally visit the place. Iran has a f*cked up government as well that shoots young women in the streets. It doesn't mean it represents all Iranians.

That 17 year-old girl who was flogged in NW Pakistan for having "loose morals" -- well, I remember reading something later that she refused a guy for marriage, and this was his payback.

CNN exists to sell coke, not educate you. Learn to read between the lines.

 

[SXS]

Orthodox Islamic society is a perfect illustration of this intimidation principle wrapped conveniently in absolute moralism. It's not enough to allay their lack of Game by socially and religiously forcing their women never to dress in certain ways; they should be dressed head to toe in a Burqa, walk 8 paces behind their husbands, never speak to any man not her husband, never drive a car, and risk an 'honor killing' should she dare step over the moralistic norm.

Things are not so simple. In todays world, west's influence goes through all corners of the world. One of the effects of that is that when the influence of the media starts affecting the youth in countries with more closed culture, it generates a reaction which consists in fighting the influence of those values, through even more strong ways.
And you guys must remember that Saudi is where Mecca is. Probably the most islamic place in the world.

That can be seen in Europe these days. For example, those countries in Europe who are trying to ban the burka and things related to the islamic religion are going to face fierce resistence. Yet, in some of the countries of the middle east in which those things are mandatory, there are organizations trying to end that, which is kinda ironic. European countries are being islamized, through a flood of imigration, while many of the countries of the middle east are being "westernized"...

I have been in Jordan only, and it isn't much different from a western country, and that pisses many people of there.

This isn't Alpha society, this is beta society so afraid that they'd never be able to sexually compete in a natural setting that they need to elevate their insecurities to a superstitious manipulation of their own society.

No, mainly they see what attheism had done here, and therefore they want nothing to do with it.

This guy who was alpha enough to "brag" about his sexual exploits is just on the receiving end of this beta controlled society (masquerading as Alpha) wanting to punish him as an example.

You know the law of your country, there is no excuse. This guy is an idiot. The people who appear on the program hide their identity, why he has'nt done the same ? He deserves more lashes.

I would like to know if you would think the same if it were an promisc or adulterous woman.
I am sure that if we show how they punish adulterous women around there, we would get many cheers here...

And I am sure also that nearly the same would happen here just some 50 or 60years ago...

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wait out:

F--k, Saudi Arabia is a tier 3 country in human trafficking and exploits Muslim children from poorer countries as prostitutes.

I am sure that if that is true, is not the royal family who sponsor this kind of stuff...

It's quite easy to feel superior, but considering the links between the al Saud family and your own government -- well, make up your own mind. There is no shortage of pissed off CIA spooks sickened by the fact normal Americans are dying, at home and overseas, because the West supports these pricks through both economic dependence and military cooperation.

Well, it was the Brits who put the abdullahs there to rule many of those countries. And the Saudis always have been the best puppets the west have in the region. Still, people there has a much worse opinion on the west than in the royal family.

I wish more people would try to be informed about international affairs but you cannot get much of a handle on a country from a "gee that's weird!" article on CNN, you have to do actual research and ideally visit the place. Iran has a f*cked up government as well that shoots young women in the streets. It doesn't mean it represents all Iranians.

It sure do represent the majority of them, as the election were not "stoled" as CNN would like many to believe.

That 17 year-old girl who was flogged in NW Pakistan for having "loose morals" -- well, I remember reading something later that she refused a guy for marriage, and this was his payback.

Flogging is a common penalty in Sharia for "fornication":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

Before anyone says "that stuff is crazy", remember that not so long ago, protestants, puritans and others religious groups in the west used to do many of those stuff, or worse.

And you should get used to this kind of stuff. As some demographic studies show, each year, increases the % of the world population who lives under Sharia law. And Islam is the highest growing religion, not because they convert more people, but because they have more babies. Soon, 1 in 3 children born in the world will be a Muslim.

CNN exists to sell coke, not educate you. Learn to read between the lines.

Agreed.