Im so tired of this

[captain55]

so I started going out with this chick I met off tinder three weeks ago. First date was a double date, met her at the bar with one of her friends and her tinder date. We both hit it off, made out like crazy.

Second date was the same thing, another great date. MAde out got a little more aggressive and I felt her u but we just went to a club with her friends dancing.

Third date she invites me over to her house to go swimming the following weekend, I figure ok she's down to smash. But she ended up hitting me up two days prior to that day, and we went to the club together. We Made out like crazy felt her up on the dance floor etc but thats all that happened.

Fourth date was this saturday, our first real date that wasn't at a club. I made out with her on the beach all night and was sucking on her boobs everything but she wouldn't give me head or let me eat her out etc, afterwards she invited me back to her house (I live an hour away) but she wouldn't let me smash. Everytime I tried to take her pants down she's like " I can't were not together yet":crackup:

When it came to scheduling the past two dates I never text her first. I played my cards perfectly, and I still haven't smashed.

Important note- when we were out at dinner she said that I haven't given her anything to show that Im an emotional guy. She said I seemed like an ******* when I first started talking to her and she was surprised to meet up with me, and she hates *******s…but always ends up dating them. All in all Isn't this a good thing?

I always felt as a DJ the woman should ask for the relationship and she should assuming you bang her right, but in this case…she's not putting out. How do I proceed? Telling her that I want an exclusive relationship with her before I even ****ed her would be a sure way for her to lose all attraction to me and ruin everything Ive built...correct?

 

[prison/con.net]

can't help ya, dude. I've never chased a woman in my life. I just "fell into" the dozen or so that I"ve scored. I stayed busy doing other things.

 

[cola]

Chick: You haven't done anything to show you are an emotional guy..
You: I'm not. -straight face-

That's if it was me, but translation:

What she was saying in chick speak was you haven't vibed with me enough. You got to find a way to connect with them.

What I want you to do is stop worrying about laying chicks. Just try to hang with them and build a connection and the p-ssy will come, I promise you. You were thirsty for it and she sensed that. Just relax bro.
Also you need thicker skin. Stuff like this can't send you off tangent. That's Just how they are. They want to bond with you before you insert your p-nis.

 

[Suspens]

and she hates *******s…but always ends up dating them.

Run bro. And she made out with you on the first date, she is desperate and also she is trying to use her pisshole as a manipulation tool(getting commitment so soon) . Do you want to get serious with such a hoe.

Btw, don't touch or kiss a chick if it's not going anywhere, and there are some obvious signs that it will or it won't lead to pounding.

 

[captain55]

Run bro. And she made out with you on the first date, she is desperate and also she is trying to use her pisshole as a manipulation tool(getting commitment so soon) . Do you want to get serious with such a hoe.

Btw, don't touch or kiss a chick if it's not going anywhere, and there are some obvious signs that it will or it won't lead to pounding.

She's not desperate she's a solid 8, I can't even go to the bathroom without 3 guys hitting on her.

So your saying don't kiss her or touch her next time Im out with her?

I always had the philosophy you should try and get in a girls pants as fast as possible to get her attached with the sex…before she figures out your flaws and has second thoughts about dating or ****ing you. Ive gone three dates without sex, but Ive never gone four dates without it so I need some help here.

 

[Desdinova]

Important note- when we were out at dinner she said that I haven't given her anything to show that Im an emotional guy. She said I seemed like an ******* when I first started talking to her and she was surprised to meet up with me, and she hates *******s…but always ends up dating them. All in all Isn't this a good thing?

I'll never forget the advice that Bible Belt gave me a little while back... Tell her an "emotional" story. Lead her through an array of emotions. Tell her something like how you were picked on in school, but how you were able to bounce back. No matter what you tell her, make sure you end it on a positive note after you tell her about the negative stuff. Bring her on that journey of emotions.

You need that one element; the one that give her that 'hope' that you can change your a55hole ways. She needs the challenge of taming you. Don't let her do it, just let her think that it's possible.

 

[captain55]

Hmm... Interesting. I use your philosophy of getting sex ASAP. You move quick and get in, like a Navy SEAL team. If you see the attraction there (I'm a good looking guy, i bet you are too) then escalate. She will love the confidence and fearlessness.

In this situation, try to get her really horny. Maybe lots of drinks? Not sure. However, I do know that if you get her horny enough she can't resist. So use your finger. She will try to remove your hand, but resist her and keep fingering through the pants. She will start to moan and remove her hand. This is when you keep going hard. You feel that bond in there and just keep rubbing there till the moans get louder and louder. Then stop when you think she's about to ***.

This is when you turn her around, take off her shirt, kiss her lips then neck then tits and then her pvssy through her pants. Oh and don't leave out her belly button, my bad. Then take them off and finger through her panties. She should be really wet and you can really get her going now. Rub it for another 30 seconds or so. Then go up for some more kisses. Have her take off your shirt if she hasnt already. Undress yourself (have her help you) to your underwear. Start dry humping her, your d!ck on her pvssy. Rub it on there and hear her moan. Then just say "fvck it" and rip off her panties. And yours. Then bam. You're good.

^^^ that is what I've used in my past. I'm sure youve tried fingering her, but if not it really is the key to making them horny. Good luck bro.

Yeah bro I did finger her SAturday night, I got her on top of me dry humping me with her shorts on and I started to take the shorts off, but she would push my hand away every time I started exposing the entire bag…..she would push my hand away,,,while continue making out with me and dry humping me. Either Im not turning her on enough or she's got better self control than any woman Ive ever been with. Even weirder is judging by the affection she shows, I actually feel like she is more physically attracted to me than a lot of women I have slept with.

 

[cola]

Maybe my view differ from other dudes on this forum, but what's the frikkin rush man? Just get to know her, chill and have fun. She may even be a good girl, you said she's hot. When all you want to do is f-ck they sense that.

Escalate yes, but subtly. Don't keep clawing at her underwear like a damn crab. That looks so desperate. Are you a Don Juan or Just a squirrel trying to geta nut?

Finesse my brother finesse

 

[Casillas]

This happens because she is only teasing you. I bet that if she let you bang her before you will be chasing another girl instead of thinking about starting a relationship.

 

[Igetit!]

This happens because she is only teasing you. I bet that if she let you bang her before you will be chasing another girl instead of thinking about starting a relationship.

Hmm. Now that's interesting.

+1 rep.

 

[captain55]

Well fellas her interest level appears to have dropped overnight. I can't tell if her parents don't want her seeing me, or if she's mad I tried to rush her into sex. I left my wallet at her house so I have an excuse to go by there this weekend..should I talk to her in person or am I more likely to get a direct answer via text?

 

[RangerMIke]

My only advice to you is to not do group dates when you first start seeing a woman. I also wouldn't take them to clubs with a bunch of horny dudes sniffing around her. You can't build rapport in group or club setting.

Your problem is that you got impaitent because nothing happend by the '4th date'... WELL truth is, and you admitted it, that your first REAL date was the 4th... Truth is you were only really starting with this girl then.

Group dates and club meetups with bunches of people don't count as 'dates' that's like meeting a girl at a party and calling that your first date. You have to get her one-on-one on a DATE, tell her you you want to get to know her better and you can't do that around a bunch of people, tell her to let you know if she changes her mind then just walk away and dont look back.

Do not invest emotional energy, money, and time into a woman that is not really interested in you or is too structured to allow you to get close.

 

[Yewki]

Everytime I tried to take her pants down she's like " I can't were not together yet":crackup:

There's two general possibilities here. She either doesn't like you enough and she's stringing you along... OR she digs you but is controlling you like a puppet and walking all over your frame (in which case she won't like you for long).

In either case, get your frame back. Stop rewarding her behavior. Retract your attention and be aloof. In the process of doing this, it should become clear which scenario you're in. If she just doesn't like you enough, she won't chase after you much... and you'll know not to waste more time. If she does, she will chase you and you're more likely to get what you want. Win win.

 

[captain55]

There's two general possibilities here. She either doesn't like you enough and she's stringing you along... OR she digs you but is controlling you like a puppet and walking all over your frame (in which case she won't like you for long).

In either case, get your frame back. Stop rewarding her behavior. Retract your attention and be aloof. In the process of doing this, it should become clear which scenario you're in. If she just doesn't like you enough, she won't chase after you much... and you'll know not to waste more time. If she does, she will chase you and you're more likely to get what you want. Win win.

No bro I know for fact she liked me just as much as I liked her up until the fourth date at least, she did 80% of the chasing hell she asked me out the past two dates. The thing that's not making sense is the last time I saw her was me leaving her house and we were making out at that point...so whatever I dis that turned her off had. To be something she came up with days following. She is a tinder chick afterall I'm sure she has another guy she likes now...I'm thinking just go ghost for a while maybe? I was kind of hoping her seeing me in real kife face to face would remind her that she's attracted to me...she lost her phone the last date so it was a bad night all around.

 

[pyros]

It happens...they lose interest overnight because...they have another option they like more.
It doesnt matter if they gave you IOI's, if she was all over you, if she texted you a lot, if she let you suck her tits...nothing matters.

Women nowadays "date" guys like children choose candy in a candy store while living in candy-land, so to speak.

Its frustrating I know.

 

[captain55]

It happens...they lose interest overnight because...they have another option they like more.
It doesnt matter if they gave you IOI's, if she was all over you, if she texted you a lot, if she let you suck her tits...nothing matters.

Women nowadays "date" guys like children choose candy in a candy store while living in candy-land, so to speak.

Its frustrating I know.

The second date was on a saturday. She invites me the following day to go over to her house to go nightswimming that next weekend. Thursdsy comes along and we meet up at the club and make out and we make plans for saturday ... Friday she says she's out with her girlfriends. I figured she was probably on a date with another guy but if she liked him better she wouldnt of hit me up the next day to go out but she did ...and we hooked up. If your right this girl is a total slut...I feel like if she liked the other option Better she woukdnt of hooked up with me that night

 

[marmel75]

Easiest way to break any resistance I've found is to start fingering her, which most of them will allow. Then finger her so good and so hard that she cvms all over or squirts and she will be begging you to fvck her because she will be so hot and bothered...then you'll just have to listen to her excuses of "I can't believe I'm doing this" and "I'm not like this", etc...

 

[captain55]

1.Pretend like nothing happened. Grab your wallet, be fun friendly and flirty.

2. Ask her out. Set up a fun date and go.

3. on the date, do not put any sexual moves on her at all. Hold her hand if you want, now and then, but don't kiss her or try and escalate. End the date relatively early. Then lay low. it is going to absolutely drive her nuts wondering why you aren't chasing that puzzy anymore. Let her stew, and in a week or so, ask her out again. I bet she warms right up this time.

Remember : NEXT DATE - NO SEXUAL MOVES AT ALL.

Reps. I went by her house and grabbed my wallet, was fun and flirty acted like nothing was wrong and within an hour of seeing her she started texting me again. :rockon: I think she was pretty surprised I didn't try to kiss her. Shot her one text and Didn't respond to her last text...


How soon should I ask her out?

 

[captain55]

My biggest concern with going ghost now after not trying to kiss her yesterday is she's going to assume I've moved on and lost interest. She seems pretty confident I know she's got guys all over her do hopefully this makes me standout.