Im Lost...

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Guys, I'm lost. mySELF is lost.

This has nothing to do with women (even though I have NO women - never have). I don't know really what I'm hoping for in posting this. Mabye some kind of direction or pep talk from you all or something.

Thing is, I'm 21 and feel like Im just not worthy of anything. When growing up I was the one of the most popular people all the way up until around sophmore year of highschool (I changed schools). I changed schools and started hangin out with hod rats and (in hindsight), completely negative people. I now see that I AM one of those people now. I have NO self confidence. I have NO career. I have NOreall support group of real friends (I have 1 good friend). Thing is, I feel like this isn't me. It feels like a dream thats gone wrong. I feel so much stronger then what I'm doing....
 

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(sry 2 post, weird text length problem)

This has been going on for SOOOO LONG. I'm so self conscious, even when looking at my mother in the face I at times find myself missing out of the point of the conversation because I'm thinking how my face looks or if I seem weird or something. I feel like I've lost mySELF somewere along the lines. I have a deep internal sense of what I can be, and at times this me comes out (and I'm SOO HAPPY when it does), but I always keep falling back into my negative habits.

Anyway, if anyone can relate or just wants to drop by and say whats up - lemme know.
 

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You're posting in the Tips section. Post somewhere else (e.g. Mature or Don Juan forums).
 

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Hey bro hit me up with a PM and i can talk to you on a more personal level, i think it would help much more than having people just come here and say more negative things.
 

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I wanted to post this in the Mature Forum but I'm not 25.

Anyway I wanted this to be a thread about improvment of self. You don't need to relate anything to me at all, hell i'd prefer it. I just feel like I need some kind of motivation and this place has always been one of those places for me.

Drop all the negatives you want guys, I'm tough.

Stay up-
 

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I don't know what to say,other than I feel the same way,and have felt for a long time. I'm 22,almost 23,and this feeling is always constant. Like it just clouds your judgement,slows you down,you have some happy moments,i.e able to laught and joke around,but then you just hit this emotinal low. My advice is talk to a professional,I tried that,but still have what I think are serious mental and motivational problems. I just can't either bring myself to do it,or don't see myself as succesful. Plus,long periods of not seeing someone. And it just feels like the day's go on and on. P.M me,perhaps we can discuss more
 

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Why don't you have a career? Do you have a passion in life? What are you interested in?

Answer those questions first. Then we'll take it from there.

Remember, be honest. You're not going to grow and learn anything if you cannot honestly answer those three questions. Nobody is hear to judge you or label you. :up:

EDIT: ItsOnNow, I was asking the OP. If you want to share, go ahead by all means. Just edit your last post because of the 10-post rule.
 

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Why don't you have a career?

I guess I'm afraid of picking something and working on it. I feel like I've been in some perpetual time of indecisivness. That plus I just....man, I just don't feel like I've been good enough to compete with people on a perfessional level. This is partly due to me just barely scrapping by in highschool because I didn't apply myself AT ALL. Also just because of my social standing and overall self image.

Do you have a passion in life? What are you interested in?

Well I have passions. I become passionate for things and then loose interest and find different passions. One passion that hasn't ever left me is my music. I've always made music and will continue to do so. Another passion that hasn't left me (funny enough) is my thirst for knowledge. I havn't done **** for school but I love to learn things that interest me.
 

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The Gamer said:
Why don't you have a career?

I guess I'm afraid of picking something and working on it. I feel like I've been in some perpetual time of indecisivness. That plus I just....man, I just don't feel like I've been good enough to compete with people on a perfessional level. This is partly due to me just barely scrapping by in highschool because I didn't apply myself AT ALL. Also just because of my social standing and overall self image.
Look here, what you did or who you were in high school has NO effect on what you can do or who you can be. Read that sentence again because you need to internalize that and use it as a daily mantra to remind yourself of where you are.

I'm sure you've heard stories of high school reunions where people are just totally surprised by fortunes or misfortunes of their classmates. Some people who were really popular in high school end up having a career at their local grocery store as the employee of the month. Some people who were laughed at beacause of their addiction to Dungeons & Dragons end up becoming millionaries of some investment banking.

You need to look at the big picture. How do you want people from high school to perceive you at the reunion? Do you want to be the employee of the month or the millionaire banker? You know what, forget answering those two questions. I don't want to show you the wrong path of success where your motivation is bragging and showing off to high school classmates. I want to show you the right path of success where your motivation is bragging and showing off to yourself.

Nobody is born a professional. You aren't expected to step into real world one day and act professional. Remember that. So, stop worrying about competing with professionals. If competing with professionals was that easy and natural, don't you think everybody would be doing it? Don't you think that we would have more millionaire bankers? Don't you think that employee of the month wouldn't exist?

Figure out why you didn't apply yourself. No, wait, more importantly, figure out if you have what it takes to apply yourself NOW. Can you handle the challenges that lie ahead of you? Can you jump high enough to clear the obstacles that will be in your path? Can you take any and all curveballs that life will throw at you from here on out? Your answer doesn't have to be a simple "yes". That would be an incomplete and a false answer. Your answer should be, "I believe in myself and my abilities to handle challenges, clear obstacles, and take the curveballs".

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Do you have a passion in life? What are you interested in?

Well I have passions. I become passionate for things and then loose interest and find different passions. One passion that hasn't ever left me is my music. I've always made music and will continue to do so. Another passion that hasn't left me (funny enough) is my thirst for knowledge. I havn't done **** for school but I love to learn things that interest me.
Ok, read this thread and watch the video I posted: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=133908

The thing about finding passions in your life is exactly that: finding passions. I mean, you're only 21. Most 21 year olds haven't figured out what they are passionate about. They haven't figured out what are some things they could see themselves doing or be a part of for the rest of their lives. Most 21 year olds just don't have the experience for developing true passions. Most 21 year olds are living in a dream world, a fantasy world. The world in which they are promised a good job, healthy marriage, wonderful children, and nice 2-garage suburban home. Most 21 year olds end up living in this dream world until they realize they have been wasting their youth. Popular psychology has a term for this: mid-life crisis.

If you want to go back to school, go back to it from a different perspective. You say you are passionate about knowledge in general. Use this to your advantage. You have no idea how far it can get you if you choose to apply yourself from that perspective. If we were to quiz you on this board and tell you to write a 500 word essay on contents of this board, you would look forward to taking the quiz or writing that essay. Why? Because you will be challenged to present your knowledge about something that actually interests you. If you go back to school (or pick a career, whatever) with this perspective, with this same burning passion, with this incredible thirst for knowledge, then your whole world will be shaken up. You will wake up, look yourself in the mirror, and say, "Damn, Am I really that good?"

You need to self-reflect, self-evaluate, and self-support yourself consistently. Nobody, not even me, can do this for you. The only thing I can do for you is show you the way. Using matrix analogy, I can only give you the choice between the red pill and the blue pill. It is you who has to decide which path you will take and follow. It is you who will decide which pill you want to take.

Self-reflect so you can see what you are, who you are on the inside. Your beliefs, convictions, values, and perceptions need to be crystal clear to you. You need to know yourself. Socrates once said, "An unexamined life is not worth living." This is exactly what's happening to you right now. You haven't examined yourself deep enough and that is why you are here wallowing in self-pity. Realize that I'm not scolding you or belittling you. I am only showing you the way. Once you figure out who you are, you are then ready to take on the next two steps.

Self-evaluate is an honest assessment, an inventory, of yourself. What you're good at, what you suck at, what needs improving, what needs reinforcement, etc. On a regular evaluation form, a person is ranked from worst to best on different characteristics that pertain to the form. For a job evaluation, the person's professional skills are ranked. For a student evaluation, the person's academic skills are ranked. For your self-evalution, you need to rank your skills at handling challenges, clearing obstacles, and taking curveballs in life. Can you honestly do that? If you can, then don't forget this very important step that follows.

Self-support. You have to be physically, mentally, and emotionally strong enough to support yourself. After a job evaluation, the person is supported by his colleagues or his boss about his performance (good or bad). After a student evaluation, the person is supported by his peers and teachers about his performance (good or bad). Now, after your self evaluation, who is going to support you? Your friends? No, they got too many problems of their own to genuinely and constantly worry about you. Your girlfriend? No, actually she's looking for somebody who will support her, not the other way around. Your parents? No, because even if they are supporting you, and rightly so because it's in their nature, they are hurting inside knowing that their own son is failing at life and can't handle himself. Tell me, is this how you would want your son to grow up and be? As somebody who can't handle himself?

Self-reflect, self-evaluate, and self-support. Once you start doing those three things, you will be reborn. You will finally unplug. You will be reincarnated. You will be a new person. People around you won't recognize you. People from high school will be shocked at your metamorphosis. You will surprise yourself every single day.

Here is reset's recent thread that touches on some of the points I've made:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=144294

Reread my post again. Take some time to digest it. I don't expect you to reply to my post because I don't expect you to change overnight. This is a life long process. Lot of what I've said comes from experience and work in progress.

Remember, nobody said change was going to be easy. Especially a change for the best. Because if it was that easy, then we wouldn't need psychologists, psychiatrists, self-help sections, mentors, and sosuave.

Good luck! :up:
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

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Thank you for posting this Bat! It's very insightful. i really do appreciate it. :)
 

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Gamer,

many, many Men are afraid of making mistakes.
They are afraid of making mistakes in front of others and being perceived as inadequate.
Many men are so afraid of goiing out there and doing something that may have a chance of 'failure', that they stay DEEP inside their Comfort Zone and STAY THERE.

Life is not , nor ever was, nor ever WILL BE...about staying so deeply in your comfort zone.

If you get too accustomed to living your life by operating out of FEAR, you will have a very dark, lonely and disapointing life ahead of you.


At some point you must make the realization that life is meant to be experienced and lived,and that includes taking 'risks'.
However, the mature perspective is to not take too much onto consideration HOW OTHERS will PERCEIVE YOU in doing so.

You are not here to live up to anyone's expectations, but your own. And you cannot EXPECT others to 'live up to your standards' and 'expectations' as well.

You and you alone are responsible for your happiness and fulfillment.
To NOT go out there and create the life YOU WANT, which is your DUTY this Lifetime, is a WASTE of Life.

A life not lived with intention is a wasted life.

You're still a young man, and you dont have much experience under your belt.
This is good in that you are not too deeply programmed with negative beliefs.
But this is bad inthat they are already a habit and your comfort zone.


When you go out into the world and DO things, you CREATE Self Esteem.

You create Self Esteem by seeing yourself CREATE and DEAL and HANDLE circumstances, be they "good' or 'bad'.

Either way, the WAY you handle the situation BUILDS Self Esteem.

And that Self Esteem can NEVER be taken away from you.

If you're in a situation where you are required to be strong emotionally, and you do demonstrate that in that circumstance, once it is over, you can look back and make the reflection that "You know, I did handle that well." THAT is the self recognition that lets you make that realization of your Self Esteem:

"I am a man with tremendous inner emotional Strentgh, and have demonstrated that strength to my satisfaction. And no one can EVER take this experience from me or tell me otherwise. I know the truth about myself, and that's ALL that MATTERS."

However, what happens when you find yourself in that situation and you shrink back and cower in fear?? and try to avoid that OPPORTUNITY to CREATE authentic bullet proof Self Esteem?

DO you SEE what Im getting at?

The Perspective is OPPORTUNITY for GROWTH.
To CREATE
To Build Self Esteem

But...

if you LOOK at it from the perspective BASED ON FEAR...you will PROJECT FAILURE and PAIN on to a situation or circumstance, that in the end is NOT that at all.
All circumstances are actually NEUTRAL.It is up to YOU to have the ATTITUDE and Proper Masculine Mature PERSPECTIVE to see it as an OPPORTUNITY to GROW, and BUILD,and EXPERIENCE

THAT is the Attitude you must begin to recognize.


It is your attitude and perception.
Do not look out upon the world from a place of fear, or self imposed exile, becasue you are MAKING YOURSELF believe some sill irrational notion that you are UN worthy or IN Adequate. They are BASELESS.
THEY ARE ALL BASELESS Beliefs!!!

They are rooted in Bullsh*t.

Go out there and CREATE true expereinces, that will Create NEW Beliefs that are true.

Work on your passions
your hobbies
your career
your interests
your health, fitness,and body
your intellect
your emotions
your ability to love and be loved
your finances
your capacity to ENJOY Life.....


stay strong
 

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Bat and Interceptor, thanks!

Self Reflection and Self Help has been something I've attended to fairly well in the last couple years, but that problem in hindsight is that I was focusing on things that were false. I turned towards god and started to consciously change my world view which was going agianst what I rationally thought. This has caused additional programming I'm having to hurdle over right now.

All in all though, I'm not someone who loaths in self pity (sometimes I'm very guilty of this but not too much), I just think I need to admit to myself the reality that is myself. I've started this thread to help myself along while allowing this board to watch and to participate.
 

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Thanks for that post Interceptor.

That is exactly what I needed to hear...

About fear of mistakes and failure, yeah I am guilty of this. I've lived my 22 years in a life that is pretty comfortable. I have enough wisdom and knowledge in my head to be able to avoid mistakes and failure. And although that is a blessing, it has also been one of those things that holds me back from being GREAT.

How can you ever really succeed without ever FAILING??

Sometimes, I'll get really frustrated with myself for having it so easy. That's when I push myself. I push myself to the point of physical exhaustion. Just to give you an idea of what I am like when I am in that MODE, I weigh about 132 pounds, I can bench press over 215lbs. I'll sprint so hard that I'll almost vomit. I'll punch holes through walls.

I purge my body with this pain to snap me back into reality. It's kind of ridiculous what I do to feel pain...It's not a productive use of energy..

Sometimes people perceive me as some kind of spoiled kid who has everything. But as a human being...I know that beneath my easy going life, I have a tremendous amount of willpower to endure adversity and pain. I am very hardworking. This may not make sense to some people.. but I do want to feel hardship.

I know that I need to stop burning myself out every time I get too comfortable, but I have gotten into that habit, and I am not sure how to make me work hard consistently and not go ALL OUT. haha

Any suggestions Interceptor? And anyone else who would like to add. Much appreciate it.
 

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Your basic issue is your opinion of your Worth.
Part of the reason you 'punish' yourself and make yourself work harder, is to convince yourself that you are Worthy of that 'gift', whether it be money, affection, a material possession, or luxury of some sort.

You may have grown up with people always judging you and being condescending to you because of your opportunities and certain life circumstances. You may be around a lot of people whom are envious.

Many people feel that it is unfair, to be born with the 'silver spoon', and not having earned it.

This is in effect what you are trying to do...EARN it.
This is what you are trying to Prove to yourself.

Do not apologize for whatever material possessions you have, luxuries, and opportunities.

But any Wealth not used for growth, spiritual growth and development and raising awareness, and helping others will be Limited. Realize that.
The more one covets and hoards wealth, and keeps it away from others, the more difficulty in keeping it and attracting it

Wealth MUST be used for good, in right living conditions and right thoughts and actions, for the good of yourself and your family, and mankind.


If you grow resentment towards people because of their envy, you distance yourself and may start a Scarcity Mindset.

So you must keep an open heart and think what to do to serve fellow man.

Being worthy it is in direct correlation to how much you share, honestly.


You want to stop beating yourself up?

Wel, first embrace that you were born into those circumstances. For whatever reason, they are your reality now.YOU are the one responsible for Dealing with the thoughts and emotions you have about your life situation.

Make peace with yourself and your reality.
And realize that your inherent inturition about earning it is on the mark.
You realize that it is logical to recive when one gives, but unrighteous when one receives without earning it, and by the way, we are ALL WORTHY of Wealthy and Abundance. So are you, Connect.
So you have received much, but WHY?
Why You?

This is something that may or may not be necessary to find out. The reality is there, so make peace with it.

So the idea is that you must have a healthy outlook on this.

And that if you want to keep your abundance flowing into your life, you MUST have a healthy outlook.
And that includes sharing.
Money is not a dirty word. Money is not evil. Everyone DESERVES Money, lots of it. EVERYONE is worthy of it. Dont be fooled. Everyone DESERVES Opporunities in life. Some are just not ready for them.


Being poor is easy. Being rich is a mindset.


The problem lies that you apparently may not have been taught a healthy mindset about your opportunities and life circumstance. Perhaps your parents nevers aw it obvious that they had to teach you about your life reality and how to place everything in its proper place of importance.

Honor and respect your abundance and circumstances.

But do make sure that in order for a righteous and Healthy path in life, you must also make a spirutal path as well. And the spiritual path is always about learning the truth, and then sharing it to help others.

You may be able to get obver this hurdle if you were to give something back.

Maybe some volunteer work
Maybe be more available to friends who are in need.
Maybe a shoulder to cry on.
Maybe some who is just there, being supportive.
Maybe just being there and listening to someone.
Maybe be a Leader and take charge.
Help someone process a difficult life decision.
Be less judgemental. Be less critical.
Give people the space they need.
Share whatever personal "gifts' you have. Do you have an artistic talent or something? What Gifts do you have that You can give?


How emotionally available are you? How much do you share with others?

Notice this has nothing to do with giving people money.
Although , if you can afford it, giving to an honorable and respectable charity is also good. But only if it doesnt take away from mouths you have to feed


I hope this helps you start to think about some new perspectives on all this.

Good luck.
 

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Yea great advice, I'll definitely take that into account. Start serving my fellow man and giving back whether it be emotional, physical, or monetary.

But I am still a college student... I'll probably give to charity when I'm making my own money (Lots of it). haha

As far as everything else is going on... I am pretty content with where my life is going... I've made good decisions. The only two things that are really bugging me is... getting a job/career and finding that 'right' girl.

As far as the career thing.. I know what I need to do. Just getting my resume out there and NOT FEAR rejection (Just like getting a girl, who would've guessed :)) As far as my dream girl, I have the temptation to just hit up all the fine looking girls that talk I to...BUT I know I got to be patient and wait for the right one. Besides, if I give in now, all my years of self-control will have been wasted. Haha.

It's funny, I was walking on campus today and so much was going through my head. I just made the realization that with all the knowledge that I have learned on sosuave, I look at the world in a totally different perspective from when I used to... it's kind of ridiculous.. I AM SO AWARE of EVERYTHING...

I'll see something going on.. between a girl and a guy in class, and I'll KNOW EXACTLY what is going on... Like I can analyze the situation. I can read both the girls and guys and know exactly why they do the things they do.

I'll be talking to a really cute girl in class, and a couple of guys will start to stare at our little 'dance'. They are probably wondering how I am able to just bust her balls in front of everyone.

I wonder what the percentage of men actually understand female behavior and social dynamics.. I would guess... 25% maybe? That includes the naturals who don't REALLY understand it.. but they GET IT anyway.

What do you guys think?

Btw, thanks Interceptor.. your advice is awesome. Never fails to provide insight.
 

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Connect4 said:
As far as everything else is going on... I am pretty content with where my life is going... I've made good decisions. The only two things that are really bugging me is... getting a job/career and finding that 'right' girl.

As far as the career thing.. I know what I need to do. Just getting my resume out there and NOT FEAR rejection (Just like getting a girl, who would've guessed :)) As far as my dream girl, I have the temptation to just hit up all the fine looking girls that talk I to...BUT I know I got to be patient and wait for the right one. Besides, if I give in now, all my years of self-control will have been wasted. Haha.
Diagnosis: one-itis.

Forget this idea of the "right" girl or the "one". The reality is that your personality is very dynamic like a moving fluid. It will change, bend, mold, and reform to fit your current lifestyle, mood, desires, and goals. A quality woman is the one who is compatible with your personality to some degree...this means that your definition of a quality woman should, ideally anyway, change since your personality is dynamic.

If you do find the "one" and land her now only means that she is compatible with you and your personality at this very moment. Wake up tomorrow, you have a new career, and a new lifestyle, where is that going to leave the "one"? That's right, in the past, because she was compatible with you back then, and not now anymore. In order to keep the "one", then you will have to compensate yourSELF and accomodate her...or vice versa. Is this what you (and her) really want?

Hmm, you know what. I feel like I'm just blabbering on here. I'm definitely onto something though. Maybe Interceptor and others can clarify or better illustrate the point(s) I'm trying to make.
 

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"The reality is that your personality is very dynamic like a moving fluid. It will change, bend, mold, and reform to fit your current lifestyle, mood, desires, and goals. A quality woman is the one who is compatible with your personality to some degree...this means that your definition of a quality woman should, ideally anyway, change since your personality is dynamic."

Hey Bat, I can appreciate where you are coming from... However, the way I see it is this. I am looking for SUCCESS. I am not going to let external factors determine the outcome of my desire.

Everyone will change.. but it's the CORE personality, which is built on certain values and beliefs that will NOT.

See if I find a quality woman with an awesome personality, faithful, trustworthy, smart, and we are compatible, then I am going to go for it man. I am not going to worry about whether or not 'my definition of a quality woman' will change or not, because IF I do, then all I will be doing is living in fear.

"In order to keep the "one", then you will have to compensate yourSELF and accomodate her..."

I will NOT Compensate myself. I don't need to..

Don't get so caught up in the word
ONEITIS...it's not going to help you if you're interested in a LTR.

It takes a maturity to emotionally invest into a relationship you believe will succeed. The greater the risk the greater the reward.
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lol dood get drunk as much as possible lol
 

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Connect 4 wrote:
Everyone will change.. but it's the CORE personality, which is built on certain values and beliefs that will NOT

This IS IT.


The 'one' is a woman who flows with you too. Who grows as you grow, but grows WITH you.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

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