I'm back. Some updates on OLD. Can I have some advice for HB7?

[biggoal]

Hey everyone. I'm back from my 30 day vacation. Anyway, just an update on stuff.

I'm still on OLD, just that some weeks I take a break when I go on a cold streak. I've only been on one OLD date since then.

Anyway, since my ban my reply rate has been suddenly going up on OLD, mainly match and trying this new facebook dating app. I mean, on match and OKC I was probably averaging about 7-10 percent reply rate in messages which I don't think is bad considering the SEVERE lack of options on OLD in my region and lack of young people when PUAs say 2-5 percent is average and I'm only messaging ones who are at min HB7. I'd say the reply rate is 12 to almost 20 percent now.

One thing I did was my main profile pic I used my expensive Note 10 Plus for my facial photo which takes great pics and bam, more girls click on my profile and respond. I also changed my tactics up too. A new thing I try, especially with ones I messaged before and no luck is I'll comment why someone like them is even on a dating site in the first place. The facebook dating app doesn't let you really message first, BUT you can comment on a photo and like it. I'll usually comment on a cute smile or something and that gets them going. However, most on the FB dating app don't seem really serious and disappear after a few messages. What's funny a friend of mine who lives 30 miles away had the same girl message him that replied to me too lol.

The problem I have with OLD lately and other guys telling me too is that women are becoming VERY flaky. Either not showing up or suddenly disappearing after a few messages. I'm getting this too as well. Like I'll get into conversation and right when I'm going to try and exchange numbers or ask to hangout they suddenly quit replying.

Another odd behavior is shy women. On match there is this one HB9 chick who lives 50 miles from me, a teacher. She checks my profile out A LOT but wouldn't reply to my message even though she read it. So one day I sent her a message joking that I caught her peeking at my profile again and why someone like her is using a dating site (in a flirty way) and this is her reply below. Then after I exchanged those messages with her she would still check my profile out when she logged onto the site sometimes twice in a day. Why does she constantly look at my profile? Is she just shy or trying to play hard and get me to say the right pickup line? Anyway, she hasn't logged on for a week so she hasn't read my last reply. If she logs on again what would be a good line to give her? Obviously she views my profile on a regular basis so there is something she sees in me. It didn't look fake as well.

Lol you caught me! I go hot and cold regarding online dating. Sometimes I think it’s a good idea, and other times I think it’s a terrible idea lol.
It’s hard to meet young people in SWFL, though! Not sure how else to do it down here.

And today on Match a solid HB7 38 year old doctor has been exchanging replies with me. I messaged her and she replies back. Been talking about careers mostly. The problem as you know is my kiosks are inside a fleamarket and I've women insult my profession. She's a doctor.

How does a guy compensate for his career if the woman has a better career (doctor) than you do? I have not told her my store is in a fleamarket though so I put spin on it to make it sound better. That's the thing, in this region of FL the women on Match, slim pickings they're very career focused it seems and want $$$ and ask questions about careers and in their profiles put a focus on it, especially if they're over 30.

Oh and I signed up for Tinder gold and it sucks. Does nothing and the people who "like me" mostly hooker looking or fat cows. Same with that Bumble. On those apps mostly nasty looking whales or fake looking profiles. Hardly any luck on those. Why is it on Match and OKC I have a lot better luck getting replies from high end HBs but Tinder and Bumble not much?

Anyway, any advice to give? I'm getting my reply rates up which I'm glad but the problem is about after 3 replies they lose interest and disappear. I'm happy with the reply rates I'm getting since most are at the very least HB7 on up to HB9. I'm doing something to at least get the initial interest level in them, but it's getting to the next step.

This doctor I'm talking to sounds mature for her age and career focused and is a pediatrician and loves kids. Not rushing it with her since she sometimes replies a couple hours after she reads the message. Any advice on how to proceed with her? Obviously professional and not a slvt so I don't want to be overly sext or flirty. She's replied a few times so there is some interest she's expressing. Again, it's the career thing she has me out performed in.

 

[backseatjuan]

You're about to get low reply rates on sosuave with your asparagus.

 

[Spaz]

Welcome back @biggoal

Just keep posting what's on ur mind and keep us informed of ur progress - we'll cheer you on buddy.

 

[thinker]

OK, I don't think @biggoal is a lost cause, but I am seeing a disturbing pattern you see a problem that you have and you seem to know what to do about it but you don't do it. You say that there are very few young attractive women in your area but you won't move to a better area. I had a co worker a few months back who was 29 years old and was still a virgin. This did not seem odd to him at all his whole mindset was that when it happens it happens. He had no awareness of this problem. You seem to be aware enough of some of your problems but are not taking action to fix said problems. You are using OLD as a crutch so you don't have to deal with women IRL. that is another problem. You need to move to a better area. I live in Florida like you but I live in the Miami and Fort Lauderdale area. I have never used or needed OLD because there are so many women I can talk to just going about my day.

 

[Mazer]

Move to a bigger city with people your age. When I lived a small city I was meeting maybe three or four women a week. In NYC I meet at least 5-8 per day and that’s just on my walk to and from work. If you have game and decent looks you will slay in any major city. It’s simple, more women to interact with. Pack up your shyt.

 

[biggoal]

OK, I don't think @biggoal is a lost cause, but I am seeing a disturbing pattern you see a problem that you have and you seem to know what to do about it but you don't do it. You say that there are very few young attractive women in your area but you won't move to a better area. I had a co worker a few months back who was 29 years old and was still a virgin. This did not seem odd to him at all his whole mindset was that when it happens it happens. He had no awareness of this problem. You seem to be aware enough of some of your problems but are not taking action to fix said problems. You are using OLD as a crutch so you don't have to deal with women IRL. that is another problem. You need to move to a better area. I live in Florida like you but I live in the Miami and Fort Lauderdale area. I have never used or needed OLD because there are so many women I can talk to just going about my day.

I agree. Then you know all about FL too. Southwest FL and rural places in north FL are dating deserts. Over in this region if you're 65 and single you're just fine! As I said in this area of FL it's same ole faces on OLD everyday.

I have no doubts I'd do better in Ft. Lauderdale, West Palm etc. Granted some of the women I'm sure are stuck up and bratty, especially on those areas but it's still better odds than here. Up in Tampa seems younger too when I'm up there.

Oh and btw, that doctor I mentioned will be out of town, BUT she said she wants to meet up with me when she gets back in town!

Any suggestions on where to meet? I mean since she's a doctor might have to impress and spend a bit more I guess than you would on a normal first OLD date. I know on these forums the guys all say don't invest much money into first dates for OLD.

 

[BURT MCQUEEN]

Hey everyone. I'm back from my 30 day vacation. Anyway, just an update on stuff.

I'm still on OLD, just that some weeks I take a break when I go on a cold streak. I've only been on one OLD date since then.

Anyway, since my ban my reply rate has been suddenly going up on OLD, mainly match and trying this new facebook dating app. I mean, on match and OKC I was probably averaging about 7-10 percent reply rate in messages which I don't think is bad considering the SEVERE lack of options on OLD in my region and lack of young people when PUAs say 2-5 percent is average and I'm only messaging ones who are at min HB7. I'd say the reply rate is 12 to almost 20 percent now.

One thing I did was my main profile pic I used my expensive Note 10 Plus for my facial photo which takes great pics and bam, more girls click on my profile and respond. I also changed my tactics up too. A new thing I try, especially with ones I messaged before and no luck is I'll comment why someone like them is even on a dating site in the first place. The facebook dating app doesn't let you really message first, BUT you can comment on a photo and like it. I'll usually comment on a cute smile or something and that gets them going. However, most on the FB dating app don't seem really serious and disappear after a few messages. What's funny a friend of mine who lives 30 miles away had the same girl message him that replied to me too lol.

The problem I have with OLD lately and other guys telling me too is that women are becoming VERY flaky. Either not showing up or suddenly disappearing after a few messages. I'm getting this too as well. Like I'll get into conversation and right when I'm going to try and exchange numbers or ask to hangout they suddenly quit replying.

Another odd behavior is shy women. On match there is this one HB9 chick who lives 50 miles from me, a teacher. She checks my profile out A LOT but wouldn't reply to my message even though she read it. So one day I sent her a message joking that I caught her peeking at my profile again and why someone like her is using a dating site (in a flirty way) and this is her reply below. Then after I exchanged those messages with her she would still check my profile out when she logged onto the site sometimes twice in a day. Why does she constantly look at my profile? Is she just shy or trying to play hard and get me to say the right pickup line? Anyway, she hasn't logged on for a week so she hasn't read my last reply. If she logs on again what would be a good line to give her? Obviously she views my profile on a regular basis so there is something she sees in me. It didn't look fake as well.




And today on Match a solid HB7 38 year old doctor has been exchanging replies with me. I messaged her and she replies back. Been talking about careers mostly. The problem as you know is my kiosks are inside a fleamarket and I've women insult my profession. She's a doctor.

How does a guy compensate for his career if the woman has a better career (doctor) than you do? I have not told her my store is in a fleamarket though so I put spin on it to make it sound better. That's the thing, in this region of FL the women on Match, slim pickings they're very career focused it seems and want $$$ and ask questions about careers and in their profiles put a focus on it, especially if they're over 30.

Oh and I signed up for Tinder gold and it sucks. Does nothing and the people who "like me" mostly hooker looking or fat cows. Same with that Bumble. On those apps mostly nasty looking whales or fake looking profiles. Hardly any luck on those. Why is it on Match and OKC I have a lot better luck getting replies from high end HBs but Tinder and Bumble not much?

Anyway, any advice to give? I'm getting my reply rates up which I'm glad but the problem is about after 3 replies they lose interest and disappear. I'm happy with the reply rates I'm getting since most are at the very least HB7 on up to HB9. I'm doing something to at least get the initial interest level in them, but it's getting to the next step.

This doctor I'm talking to sounds mature for her age and career focused and is a pediatrician and loves kids. Not rushing it with her since she sometimes replies a couple hours after she reads the message. Any advice on how to proceed with her? Obviously professional and not a slvt so I don't want to be overly sext or flirty. She's replied a few times so there is some interest she's expressing. Again, it's the career thing she has me out performed in.

Don't waste your time with online dating, indeed sarge some bars

 

[biggoal]

Don't waste your time with online dating, indeed sarge some bars

OLD gets a bad rap it seems on these dating advice sites, especially this website.

 

[biggoal]

OK, I don't think @biggoal is a lost cause, but I am seeing a disturbing pattern you see a problem that you have and you seem to know what to do about it but you don't do it. You say that there are very few young attractive women in your area but you won't move to a better area. I had a co worker a few months back who was 29 years old and was still a virgin. This did not seem odd to him at all his whole mindset was that when it happens it happens. He had no awareness of this problem. You seem to be aware enough of some of your problems but are not taking action to fix said problems. You are using OLD as a crutch so you don't have to deal with women IRL. that is another problem. You need to move to a better area. I live in Florida like you but I live in the Miami and Fort Lauderdale area. I have never used or needed OLD because there are so many women I can talk to just going about my day.

Check this out. I live in one of those dark green counties on the Gulf.

 

[thinker]

@biggoal I don't think you understand the money aspect. In previous posts you seemed to think that another women you went on a date with ghosted you because some guy bought her flowers thereby spending more money than you. She also posted a picture on facebook showing the flowers. The truth is she probably just posted the flowers for some attention and validation. I have gone on multiple dates with women that consisted of them hanging out with me while I ran errands and we ate at Mcdonalds when I got hungry, and yes I bedded them. The lesson here is that if a women wants you she will make it easy and money is not important, if she is young remember she is vetting you as a potential lover not a husband.

 

[biggoal]

@biggoal I don't think you understand the money aspect. In previous posts you seemed to think that another women you went on a date with ghosted you because some guy bought her flowers thereby spending more money than you. She also posted a picture on facebook showing the flowers. The truth is she probably just posted the flowers for some attention and validation. I have gone on multiple dates with women that consisted of them hanging out with me while I ran errands and we ate at Mcdonalds when I got hungry, and yes I bedded them. The lesson here is that if a women wants you she will make it easy and money is not important, if she is young remember she is vetting you as a potential lover not a husband.

That woman was 39, few years older than me. She has a guy friend she hangs around a lot with she has photos of him on facebook. Looks to be early 40s, kinda balding, bit of a pot belly but always doing things together looked like possible FWB and he had a kid. Just thinking to myself WTF. Why do these women hang around these pudgy, ugly, balding guys for? I workout so I don't get fat and such and they would pick a guy like that. I see this everyday though. Decent looking women with fat guys.

 

[corrector]

That woman was 39, few years older than me. She has a guy friend she hangs around a lot with she has photos of him on facebook. Looks to be early 40s, kinda balding, bit of a pot belly but always doing things together looked like possible FWB and he had a kid. Just thinking to myself WTF. Why do these women hang around these pudgy, ugly, balding guys for? I workout so I don't get fat and such and they would pick a guy like that. I see this everyday though. Decent looking women with fat guys.

Why don't you get fat then? I mean it's all about getting a girl. If girls like fat guys then you should be fat too in order to attract a woman. You have to go with what the market demands. Maybe they wanted skinnier guys last year and the latest fad is now fat guys.

 

[evan12]

That woman was 39, few years older than me. She has a guy friend she hangs around a lot with she has photos of him on facebook. Looks to be early 40s, kinda balding, bit of a pot belly but always doing things together looked like possible FWB and he had a kid. Just thinking to myself WTF. Why do these women hang around these pudgy, ugly, balding guys for? I workout so I don't get fat and such and they would pick a guy like that. I see this everyday though. Decent looking women with fat guys.

Relationships built more complex than you think , when you are dating you look at all relationships in dater eyes, that guy might be one of her exes and she feel comfortable with since he is single too, he might be her spare wallet when she need help . there are many reasons for that. as you are still in dating pool, being attractive, fit , is a must for these days. Fat and balding men have it the hardest unless you play the thug game with your balding.

 

[Desdinova]

I'm still on OLD

You spent a month sitting on your computer. Good job.

Oh and I signed up for Tinder gold

So you decided to pay money to get the same 5hitty results. If you like throwing away money, I'll take some.

Anyway, any advice to give?

Yeah, get off online dating and go interact with women in person.

 

[biggoal]

Well, that doctor replied back today and gave me her number! She will be out of town this weekend though at a conference so next sat planning on meeting. She's a pediatrician and is on call too. Only 2 years older than me. I guess a professional like this it wouldn't be a good idea to blow her phone up everyday with texting and random chatter like I've done with other chicks since she's very busy for that BS?

She herself doesn't reply right away to messages so I'll do the same and not contact her everyday. Plus leaves more to talk about on the date.

As I posted in my new thread, how should I deal with a chick who career wise is out of my league because she makes a lot more? Like I own kisoks at a fleamarket. I guess I need to put spin on it like others suggested here. How does a Don Juan spin his career when the chick has a far better career?

Also, what am I doing wrong? On Tinder and Bumble I get hardly any action except occasion hooker, bot or lardball or black lady liking me. Granted to start there are not many decent women on this swipe apps in this area. Mostly slutty looking or bots. Yet on Match I have a decent reply rate from HB7 to HB9s. OKC is total garbage around here, nasty but even the I'd get a few decent ones numbers as well. How can I get all these replies from higher end HBs in Match and OKC but less on the swipe apps?

Facebook dating app very few decent ones as well but I've been getting a few replies from high end HBs there as well.

 

[biggoal]

I texted with the doctor a bit tonight. Shes leaving for her trip tomorrow.

Another chick liked me and replied back to me on Facebook dating app. Left a comment about her smile and she said thanks. She commented about my red, blonde hair too lol. Cute face but not good body shots but was a state trooper for 15 years and quit and moved here. Serves tables now and has a retirement package and started a business. She roller blades and stuff. I asked her if shes active in order to get an idea of body type so i dont get a lard ball. Her face didnt look fat and shes 5 7. Looks average body type. Anyway I asked and she gave me her number and she said texting is better than using the app. I was getting ready to workout so I said I'll text her tomorrow.

Does this waitress sound easier to get than the dr? She lives on a tiny island community 25 miles south of here which is very seasonal and mostly old people so probably not a lot of dating options.

 

[biggoal]

So, I looked up the Dr. on Facebook and google. She's more like an HB6 at best. Maybe even a bit lower when she was more overweight. Pass!

However, the chick on facebook dating I looked her up on FB because I did a reverse phone number search on google so saw her full name. She's a solid HB7.5 to almost 8. She's almost same height as me BUT bone frame is bigger than me though and maybe weighs a bit more. I mean she's in shape but just bigger bones. Could that be a problem again? I mean, my profile pics I clearly have a full body shot on my facebook dating profile though.

Anyway, it sounded like she wanted to talk but I cut her kinda short because I was about to work out. So I asked her for number and got it easily from her and as I posted before she wants to text. Would you say this is a good sign?

One advantage is she lives in a small island community. So probably lack of guys unless she drives 15 miles into the main part of the county.

What time shoudl I text her tomorrow? She works 9-5 at a restaurant so I don't know if tomorrow is one of her days off. Should I wait until night to text her so I don't bother her at work or look needy?

 

[biggoal]

What time of day would be s good time to text her? I'm not sure shes working today or not. Like in the afternoon should I text her and ask how her day is? Dont want her to lose interest and wait too long. This is the high end hb who lives on the island btw in talking about.

 

[biggoal]

We texted for awhile this afternoon. Sounds good so far. She did say though I look young for my age, and that she's never dated younger men! Anyway, she wants to meetup and meet me and see if there is any chemistry. Good idea to just get it out of the way I think!

She too complaining about down here about mostly old pervs and not being able to meet men her age. I'm glad it's just not the guys saying it about around here. Any advice for this? She turns 40 in Dec. I turn 36 end of the month.

 

[biggoal]

Talked a bit tonight when I got home from work. She's out driving a couple home from a concert about an hour away and getting paid $100 but while she was waiting to pick them up she texted with me. She seems warm to me and talkative and similar in ways as well. She doesn't drink much and rarely goes out to any bars or anything and she goes to bed early and is complaining about not meeting people around her age here because it's all old people. Granted where she lives is even worse because it's an island and have to drive 15 miles inland to the county to my south and even then it's old people unless you like bars. Anyway so far she seems good. We will see if she flakes or not as with OLD I rarely put much stock into it anyway.

The only thing is she has never dated younger men and she thinks I look really really young too. A lot of these women near 40 want a guy who looks that age unless they're looking for a boy toy. Anyway, she's a little flirty. I think I will secure a date here. She works at a restaurant full time though so a bit hectic but I can work around that.