is it then okay to start working that muscle again? My chest day was last wednesday, but on Friday going into saturday, I was still sore, but am not anymore. Does that mean my chest muscles have now repaired and I can go ahead and do some sets of pushups for a maintenance between wednesdays?
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If your muscle soreness has gone away
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Quagmire911
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Wasn't it you I gave the two day to? If so don't mess about with it.
As Wolf says, muscle soreness isn't all that is going on. If you don't feel it is working you hard enough or the intensity isn't quite there add in another set on your main move(s).
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As Wolf says, muscle soreness isn't all that is going on. If you don't feel it is working you hard enough or the intensity isn't quite there add in another set on your main move(s).
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You shouldn't need to do any sort of maintenance between chest days if you have a normal lifting schedule..
it takes 6-12 days for the muscle to 'fully' recover, and about 14 days before you might notice a loss in strength.. it wouldn't even be genuine muscle that you're losing in that time either, it would just be a decrease in sensetivity in the neuro pathways... thats why a particular weight might seem heavier than it should.
So no, don't do pushups, and stick to the workout.
it takes 6-12 days for the muscle to 'fully' recover, and about 14 days before you might notice a loss in strength.. it wouldn't even be genuine muscle that you're losing in that time either, it would just be a decrease in sensetivity in the neuro pathways... thats why a particular weight might seem heavier than it should.
So no, don't do pushups, and stick to the workout.
From my and other's experience, if you get DOMS then you can be sure that you had a good workout the day before and vice versa if you had a good workout and you know that given bodypart is susceptible to DOMS then it's highly likely you'll get some. But on the other hand if you don't get DOMS, it doesn't mean you had a bad workout, especially if that given bodypart is not susceptible to DOMS.
For example, for most people if they have a heavy quad session they'll get DOMS in them the day after, even 2. As for shoulders, never had DOMS there and most people I know haven't either. As for the other bodyparts, sometimes but usually after a routine change or a few days break.
If you have a chest day and get DOMS lasting 2 days, it does not mean you are doing wise to batter it again on the 3rd day. Eventually you will overtrain the muscle and regress on your lifts. It also kills energy needed to train other groups. Again, stick to the template, that way everything is trained properly. You don't see people posting threads asking if they can squat again and again haha.
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For example, for most people if they have a heavy quad session they'll get DOMS in them the day after, even 2. As for shoulders, never had DOMS there and most people I know haven't either. As for the other bodyparts, sometimes but usually after a routine change or a few days break.
If you have a chest day and get DOMS lasting 2 days, it does not mean you are doing wise to batter it again on the 3rd day. Eventually you will overtrain the muscle and regress on your lifts. It also kills energy needed to train other groups. Again, stick to the template, that way everything is trained properly. You don't see people posting threads asking if they can squat again and again haha.
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Drum&Bass
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I disagree with EVERYTHING you said. But then again I don't make rookie mistakes like having the same routine for more than a week.Soreness is a poor indicator of how well you worked or if you are repaired.
After training the same for some time you will not get sore at all.
Quagmire911
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It isn't really a "rookie" mistake, beginners don't need to change things every week.Drum&Bass said:I disagree with EVERYTHING you said. But then again I don't make rookie mistakes like having the same routine for more than a week.
Time for me to fire IA since i don't get sore doing high rep squatsDrum&Bass said:I disagree with EVERYTHING you said. But then again I don't make rookie mistakes like having the same routine for more than a week.
:crackup:EFFORT said:Time for me to fire IA since i don't get sore doing high rep squats
Drum&Bass said:I disagree with EVERYTHING you said. But then again I don't make rookie mistakes like having the same routine for more than a week.
how is it a routine if it's never the same?
i mean.. uh.. it's a.. well.. routine.
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*head explodes*Throttle said:it's a meta-routine. the only routine: no routine.
Drum&Bass
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I routinely train chest, back, legs, shoulders, etc..but the order of days, exercises and reps are always different.how is it a routine if it's never the same?
true..but eventually there going to have to get this point, nothing wrong with getting a rookie there now.beginners don't need to change things every week.
I wish I had the genetics of some of you on this thread. Most every workout leaves me sore for 2 days or more.
The only exercises I never feel is rowing.
Drum&Bass
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???? why wouldn't you be able to handle that ? why do you think I'm joking about genetics ?Are you joking about the genetics? You're smashing your body so it's sore every workout. No way in the world my body would handle that.
why would anyone want to do that ??? there is such a thing as warms ups and rep ranges. Sometimes you might be able to lift heavy sometimes even heavier...some days not as heavy, and you can lift to failure on all of those days if you made that choice, but what does lifting to failure have to do with soreness ??I bet you can train to failure on every set as well.
..what is the point your trying to make with that comment ?
I wouldn't be able to handle it because that's the way I'm built. Overtraining has always been a problem for me.
I know there is such a thing as warm-ups. It's just that all the guys with good genetics seem to progress when training to failure and beyond. They judge their workout by the pump and how sore they get the next day. And they grow from it.
I know there is such a thing as warm-ups. It's just that all the guys with good genetics seem to progress when training to failure and beyond. They judge their workout by the pump and how sore they get the next day. And they grow from it.
How do you expect people to respond when you say stuff thats just pure wrong, along with a sneaky insult?Drum&Bass said:I disagree with EVERYTHING you said. But then again I don't make rookie mistakes like having the same routine for more than a week.
Drum&Bass
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Feel free to correct me !! I might learn something and change my opinion.How do you expect people to respond when you say stuff thats just pure wrong