If You Don't Date or Get Laid, Don't Give Advice

[Skyline]

Dating is lame anyway. Too many unspoken expectations. It's a sticky trap.

If a girl is really interested, you don't really need to go on a date.

You should only go on a date if you absolutely know she's interested. But shooting in the dark is just a waste of time and money.

Textbook indicators of interest is when you know. If she has you guessing, don't waste your time.

 

[davidcarr]

If a girl is really interested, you don't really need to go on a date.

You should only go on a date if you absolutely know she's interested. But shooting in the dark is just a waste of time and money.

Textbook indicators of interest is when you know. If she has you guessing, don't waste your time.

Sadly, this is no longer reliable now either. The only 'reliable' indicator of interest now is actual sex.

 

[Skyline]

Sadly, this is no longer reliable now either. The only 'reliable' indicator of interest now is actual sex.

No, it's reliable.

Some females try to fake it but they're generally terrible at manipulating anything. I've never met a female who I couldn't see through her bluffs.

Tests, like asking her out on a date, are important. A female who won't sleep with you will not meet up with you, for any reason. A female who is using you for something will not meet up with you.

I mainly use 'asking her out on a date' as an indicator of interest, not to actually go on the date itself.

 

[davidcarr]

No, it's reliable.

Some females try to fake it but they're generally terrible at manipulating anything. I've never met a female who I couldn't see through her bluffs.

Tests, like asking her out on a date, are important. A female who won't sleep with you will not meet up with you, for any reason. A female who is using you for something will not meet up with you.

I mainly use 'asking her out on a date' as an indicator of interest, not to actually go on the date itself.

If only that were the case. Read my post on girls who only have male friends. These girls get so much practice interacting with guys that they can fake it easily.

The only time these girls crack is during the witching hour, the moment of put up or shut up. This doesn't even mean willingness to get into a car after midnight. None of these "IOI's" is relevant anymore. The only important IOI now is sex.

 

[Skyline]

If only that were the case. Read my post on girls who only have male friends. These girls get so much practice interacting with guys that they can fake it easily.

The only time these girls crack is during the witching hour, the moment of put up or shut up. This doesn't even mean willingness to get into a car after midnight. None of these "IOI's" is relevant anymore. The only important IOI now is sex.

I completely disagree.

They're even easier to spot if they are surrounded by male friends.

The reason why people who steal money inside of companies get caught is because they haven't gotten caught in so long. So they become careless in their stealing.

It's the same mindset.

They can practice all they want but they can't really ever be good at manipulating somebody. You would have to be very naive and weak to fall for it.

 

[davidcarr]

I completely disagree.

They're even easier to spot if they are surrounded by male friends.

The reason why people who steal money inside of companies get caught is because they haven't gotten caught in so long. So they become careless in their stealing.

It's the same mindset.

They can practice all they want but they can't really ever be good at manipulating somebody. You would have to be very naive and weak to fall for it.

That's not my experience dude. It's one thing to state your experiences, it's another to generalize from your own limited case to everyone else.

 

[Skyline]

That's not my experience dude. It's one thing to state your experiences, it's another to generalize from your own limited case to everyone else.

Well you're one this forum for a reason. I'll make a thread about that topic later.

It's pretty obvious to me that you seem to get used by females often. They give off all the warning signs you just don't know them.

 

[davidcarr]

Well you're one this forum for a reason. I'll make a thread about that topic later.

It's pretty obvious to me that you seem to get used by females often. They give off all the warning signs you just don't know them.

Psycho talk. Medication isn't useful if you don't take it.

 

[logicallefty]

I got laid two nights ago. What do you want to know ?

 

[MountainSlide]

I’m a serial monogamist. Get laid botches!!!

 

[MountainSlide]

For me I get emotionally close to my own situation and post for third party perspective to avoid mistakes. And I can provide that same perspective to others!!

 

[nicksaiz65]

I got laid two nights ago. What do you want to know ?

How do you know when she actually likes you vs being used for your non-sexual attention? I’d assume if she actually goes out with you and hooks up with you vs beating around the bush lol.

Also if you know a girl is a hoe do you do things any differently?

 

[MountainSlide]

How do you know when she actually likes you vs being used for your non-sexual attention? I’d assume if she actually goes out with you and hooks up with you vs beating around the bush lol.

Also if you know a girl is a hoe do you do things any differently?

Asking that question is in itself a mistake. Because it isn’t a mans job to figure out where he stands with a woman. He dates has a good time and gets laid. He has other options. Therefore he figures out the answer to the question when the woman tries to lock him down

 

[nicksaiz65]

Asking that question is in itself a mistake. Because it isn’t a mans job to figure out where he stands with a woman. He dates has a good time and gets laid. He has other options. Therefore he figures out the answer to the question when the woman tries to lock him down

Ah, there’s that abundance mentality that I hear so much about!

 

[logicallefty]

How do you know when she actually likes you vs being used for your non-sexual attention? I’d assume if she actually goes out with you and hooks up with you vs beating around the bush lol.

Also if you know a girl is a hoe do you do things any differently?

Knowing if she actually likes you depends on which stage of the game you are at:

- First, if you haven't yet been on a date with her, the biggest indicator of interest is does she agree to go on a date with you and if she does, does she stick to it. If she keeps making excuses not to go out or agrees to go out and then cancels/flakes, then she probably doesn't like you. Or she may like you, but she may like one or more other guys more than you.

- Next, once you get her out on the first date, the next thing you will want to do is kiss her. If she rejects your kiss on the first date then there is rarely any reason to continue to see her again. You can, but in my experience its been a waste of time. And if you have multiple options, you have no reason to waste the time.

- Next, it's on to see if she will sleep with you. For me, I give her until the 3rd or maybe 4th date for sex. No sex by the 4th at latest, she isn't all that interested.

- Next, once you have had sex, can you have it again? Or is she making it difficult for repeated sex. If she is, next.

- Also, does she initiate contact the vast majority of the time? If so, you are doing good. If you have to initiate most or all of the time, she may not be all that interested.

- Finally, If you can keep having sex and giving her consistent organisms time and time and time again, then you are probably good to go with her. Not every woman has an O with vaginal intercourse but rarely is there a woman who doesn't have them at all. Eat her out. Finger her. Give her that O as quick as possible when you first have sex the first time or two and then she is likely to keep coming back for more.


So how do I know the woman I railed the other night likes me? Well, first off, we decided to do the LTR thing. She initiates 8/10 texts, calls, etc. But even if we are just plates, the same would apply. The other nite I think she had like 6-7 Os. I lost count. Not every woman does that though. If you can give her even one O each time you rail her or darn near each time, you are doing better than a lot of guys. Because a lot of guys don't even try. They stick it in and in 3 minutes its over she gets nothing. She won't keep coming back for more if she isn't getting anything to get more of.

Edit: Regarding you second question. Do I do anything different if I know she's a HO. As far as courting her to be a plate, NO. But as far as being in a LTR with her, yes.

 

[davidcarr]

The most obvious sign that the poster is a virgin or incel is that they never post any information about their dating life or relationship/s or even their approaches. They only give vague b.s. such as "I am the alpha male in any room" or "they fall into my frame, always."

They also have a limited vocabulary of terms such as "orbiter" and "beta" and "friendzone" which they use over and over, copying and pasting to every new post which involves any ambiguous situation. They can't refer to their own relationship experience because they don't have any.

An additional clue is that they post "current events" posts which are broad, vague. general news items which reveals nothing about themselves but gets a lot of people chiming in with their political views. This typically involves some variation on a manosphere theme: "women are evil" or "they always date up" or again, some other generic catchphrase which might actually be true, but which is not rooted in any personal experience of theirs, so it just becomes sound generic sound bite which echoes in the room.

Meanwhile, guys who actually do approach, date and have sex always run into headscratchers here and there. Especially ambitious guys who aim for girls who are actually hot. These situations present challenges and require problem solving and tinkering beyond any formula.

So you often wind up with paradoxical situations with the more skilled, better looking guys posting real experiences they have questions about, and the least experienced, the ones incapable of posting their own experiences because they don't have any, offering up the "advice."

If they are pressed about the issue, they come up with some excuse saying they are married or in a relationship, but again, offer no specifics or evaluation. It's a general, blanket statement to deflect attention. With that being said, there are some fine posters on this forum.

Amante and Beexcellent are two of them. Obviously I don't know anything about either of them personally but at least they seem level headed, coherent, and seem to be able to refer to specific personal experiences when they post. Look for this type of poster as someone who can offer a thoughtful reply even of course if you don't agree with everything they have to say.

 

[Bible_Belt]

The most obvious sign that the poster is a virgin or incel is that they never post any information about their dating life or relationship/s or even their approaches. They only give vague b.s. such as "I am the alpha male in any room" or "they fall into my frame, always.".

Or, just maybe, some of us could have fallen asleep while logged onto sosuave and had a woman peruse our field reports, which, you're not going to believe this, they do not like at all.

 

[Soflobro#3]

LMAO. You don’t remember the one where her man carried her into the ocean in her “one million dollar” (best dr evil voice) dress? You can bet the “old lady” got turned out proper that night after the viagra kicked in!

-Augustus-

Hell yeah got pounded proper that night. She was probably snoring within 2 mins after it was finished.

 

[Soflobro#3]

When was the last time any of you guys had a night like that?

The last girl i had sex with was the black one in Milwaukee when i eas homeless. Before that was in Florida, the Brazilian girl (massage therapist), but i met her in tinder, i didn't pay her, just paid for her uber, the 2nd time she brought me weed and liquor. I haven't been laid in like 2 months

 

[Soflobro#3]

The most obvious sign that the poster is a virgin or incel is that they never post any information about their dating life or relationship/s or even their approaches. They only give vague b.s. such as "I am the alpha male in any room" or "they fall into my frame, always."

They also have a limited vocabulary of terms such as "orbiter" and "beta" and "friendzone" which they use over and over, copying and pasting to every new post which involves any ambiguous situation. They can't refer to their own relationship experience because they don't have any.

An additional clue is that they post "current events" posts which are broad, vague. general news items which reveals nothing about themselves but gets a lot of people chiming in with their political views. This typically involves some variation on a manosphere theme: "women are evil" or "they always date up" or again, some other generic catchphrase which might actually be true, but which is not rooted in any personal experience of theirs, so it just becomes sound generic sound bite which echoes in the room.

Meanwhile, guys who actually do approach, date and have sex always run into headscratchers here and there. Especially ambitious guys who aim for girls who are actually hot. These situations present challenges and require problem solving and tinkering beyond any formula.

So you often wind up with paradoxical situations with the more skilled, better looking guys posting real experiences they have questions about, and the least experienced, the ones incapable of posting their own experiences because they don't have any, offering up the "advice."

If they are pressed about the issue, they come up with some excuse saying they are married or in a relationship, but again, offer no specifics or evaluation. It's a general, blanket statement to deflect attention. With that being said, there are some fine posters on this forum.

Amante and Beexcellent are two of them. Obviously I don't know anything about either of them personally but at least they seem level headed, coherent, and seem to be able to refer to specific personal experiences when they post. Look for this type of poster as someone who can offer a thoughtful reply even of course if you don't agree with everything they have to say.

Whenever I'm in an ltr or having success dating i never post on here. That's not true at all.

When I'm getting the things i need and want from a woman or women, i have no desire to post on here. Or even when I'm ina dying ltr I don't post on here either. I'll check in and lurk, but rarely do i post. Part of the reason is what if she finds this place and my posts.