if you date down, you'll (probably) never be cheated on

[devilkingx2]

this is a theory I've had, it doesn't matter if you're dating down it matters if she thinks that you're dating down.... which technically means you can still date a HB9 and get the few benefits of dating a HB5(granted if shes a HB9 who thinks you're dating down she probably has low self-esteem)

alternatively, you could actually date a HB6 or HB7, and then your chances of her cheating on you are minimized...

although I do see that the flaw in this is that it requires you to either date girls with low self-esteem(bad idea) or girls who aren't very hot(where's your ambition?)

but I guess you'll just have to find one with another desirable trait(like killer BJ skills, a love for video games or whatever your favorite hobby is, a medical license for free prescriptions to stuff, a law degree for free legal advice, a cop for... various benefits, etc.)

 

[LorenzoVonM]

So the song lyrics go "If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, find an ugly girl and make her your wife".

Or you could just eliminate the worry that a girl will cheat by fully swallowing the red-pill and be alright with the fact that the majority of relationships have a beginning and end. Also, that women will always behave like women.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Pair nailed it. You are less likely, but I would add considerably less likely. I have definitely found this to be true.

Remember, for a girl to stay with you, she needs to perceive you as having more value than her. This is obvious to the veterans, but can be a completely new idea to the newbies. I definitely can date down on facial beauty (to a reasonable degree) but I cannot, I repeat CANNOT do "fat". God knows I've tried!

 

[like2jam]

I'd prob just rather go solo. I've been doing that for a while now, I'm not bad at it.

I hope to find someone equal, but the problem is that most equal babes think they deserve two notches above themselves. Not that I don't wish I could score some hotty out of my league as well, but to be honest, I've had some pretty hot gfs in the past and they either turned out to be 1. cheaters, 2. psychos, 3. frigid.

Hell, I'm not asking for a damn model. Getting older makes things much tougher out here in single land. All the normal cute girls are usually paired off by now.

Oh well. I'll just keep working on improving myself and keeping busy.

 

[Stagger Lee]

I doubt it. Even if you date down, there's always some guy in your looks league or higher that will ONS your girl. While I agree the hotter your girl the more she'll get hit on and the hard it can be to keep her, just about every girl will have lots of opportunities to cheat. It's up to her almost independently of you to be faithful or not. Another way of looking at it is the hotter the girl, the less guys there are that have the looks to induce her to cheat.

 

[jeffreylebowski]

I don't know if it's about dating down, per se. It seems like it's more a case of if you are fulfilling her emotional and physical needs, she is a lot less likely to cheat. If she values what you are giving her, she will be less likely to cheat. If she doesn't value what you are giving her, the converse is true. Even women who are attracted to their men can look to stray or whatever if they see a more appealing branch. If she's looking to settle down and you're not, or if she's just wanting to have fun and you're looking for something more serious.

But yes, if she sees you as a high value male, you are less likely, considerably, to get cheated on.

 

[Sandow]

I've dated my fair share of HB 7's and above, and it's a goddamn headache every time. You cannot settle down with these types of girls. If you do, it'll be over very soon and/or end in disaster. They're pump and dump material.

 

[devilkingx2]

basically, its a trade-off assuming all other variables are equal, the hotter the girl the more work to make sure you're not cheated on and the higher the chance of being cheated on

but if she's not that attractive, then your required effort is lower and the chances of getting cheated on are lower

If you date down you are LESS LIKELY to get cheated on.

boy, I'd never want to meet the woman who cheats on a guy with higher value than her

So the song lyrics go "If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, find an ugly girl and make her your wife".

Or you could just eliminate the worry that a girl will cheat by fully swallowing the red-pill and be alright with the fact that the majority of relationships have a beginning and end. Also, that women will always behave like women.

probably

but there's never a way to be outside and be 100% sure you won't be struck by lightning

at the same time, there's a reason you don't drench yourself in water, stand in a metal bucket filled with water on top of a 100 story building during a thunderstorm while touching metal.

I doubt it. Even if you date down, there's always some guy in your looks league or higher that will ONS your girl. While I agree the hotter your girl the more she'll get hit on and the hard it can be to keep her, just about every girl will have lots of opportunities to cheat. It's up to her almost independently of you to be faithful or not. Another way of looking at it is the hotter the girl, the less guys there are that have the looks to induce her to cheat.

think of it like this,

if you find yourself a 10 would you cheat on her? ever? maybe if kate upton asks you out or something

if you're dating a 5, it wouldn't be a big deal if the relationship ended, and thus you probably wouldn't have many qualms about cheating on her unless you really really liked her despite her looks

same concept, if she thinks shes getting a sweet deal with you, she won't cheat on you with a worse deal(and if she's like a 9 with low self-esteem, she'll think shes like a 5 and think its a fluke she got you in the first place and not want to risk messing up your relationship) she'll look for a better deal if she's going to cheat

but there aren't many good looking, famous, 140 IQ millionaires hitting on 6's or 7's are there?

I don't know if it's about dating down, per se. It seems like it's more a case of if you are fulfilling her emotional and physical needs, she is a lot less likely to cheat. If she values what you are giving her, she will be less likely to cheat. If she doesn't value what you are giving her, the converse is true. Even women who are attracted to their men can look to stray or whatever if they see a more appealing branch. If she's looking to settle down and you're not, or if she's just wanting to have fun and you're looking for something more serious.

But yes, if she sees you as a high value male, you are less likely, considerably, to get cheated on.

yeah, but its much easier to please a 6 than a 9

 

[jeffreylebowski]

If she's got low self esteem, she probably won't be with a high quality dude anyway.

 

[hockster]

I'd prob just rather go solo. I've been doing that for a while now, I'm not bad at it.

I hope to find someone equal, but the problem is that most equal babes think they deserve two notches above themselves. Not that I don't wish I could score some hotty out of my league as well, but to be honest, I've had some pretty hot gfs in the past and they either turned out to be 1. cheaters, 2. psychos, 3. frigid.

Hell, I'm not asking for a damn model. Getting older makes things much tougher out here in single land. All the normal cute girls are usually paired off by now.

Oh well. I'll just keep working on improving myself and keeping busy.

I couldn't have said it any better, my exact experiences and current path too. We're close in age and crossing paths with people who have had very similar experiences confirms that it's really not me! Lol.

 

[LorenzoVonM]

So the song lyrics go "If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, find an ugly girl and make her your wife".

Or you could just eliminate the worry that a girl will cheat by fully swallowing the red-pill and be alright with the fact that the majority of relationships have a beginning and end. Also, that women will always behave like women.

probably

but there's never a way to be outside and be 100% sure you won't be struck by lightning

at the same time, there's a reason you don't drench yourself in water, stand in a metal bucket filled with water on top of a 100 story building during a thunderstorm while touching metal.

Yeah, I was just saying that tongue in cheek. Lasting happiness is found within. Women can enhance that happiness, but you should always be validated internally.

My point was once you truly swallow the red-pill you don't have the worry and paranoia about this anymore. It is no longer an issue and you are liberated from the stress. So you can try to screen for the least likely to cheat (which I think your analogy was getting at) but then you let it go. There is no controlling the uncontrollable. And if she does cheat, you are not emotionally devastated because you understand human nature beyond the matrix. You just keep on, keeping on. You are still happy.

 

[devilkingx2]

If she's got low self esteem, she probably won't be with a high quality dude anyway.

but as far as she sees it, he'll be a catch and a great bargain for her so she won't want to mess it up

even if that means a 9 talking about her luck of getting to be with some random loser

Yeah, I was just saying that tongue in cheek. Lasting happiness is found within. Women can enhance that happiness, but you should always be validated internally.

My point was once you truly swallow the red-pill you don't have the worry and paranoia about this anymore. It is no longer an issue and you are liberated from the stress. So you can try to screen for the least likely to cheat (which I think your analogy was getting at) but then you let it go. There is no controlling the uncontrollable. And if she does cheat, you are not emotionally devastated because you understand human nature beyond the matrix. You just keep on, keeping on. You are still happy.

this is wise, I should rep you

if not for the words of wisdom then for the fact that I understand your username perfectly saw that episode and love how I met your mother

I couldn't have said it any better, my exact experiences and current path too. We're close in age and crossing paths with people who have had very similar experiences confirms that it's really not me! Lol.

sometimes you just have those "woah... are you me?" moments online

 

[jeffreylebowski]

Sure...unless he actually treats her well...which might make her question what he sees in her...which makes her think he must not be that great...

Jus sayin

 

[americaninbangkok]

The reason why it's better to date down is most of these types NEED you or at least feel they do.

 

[Jaylan]

Find that rare high quality girl who doesnt cheat, or stay single. Those are my options. I dont settle for chicks not crazy about. The only time I get into a relationship is when Im really into a girl. Like super into her. And girls im super into arent below my league.

 

[ebracer05]

How far down are you dating? I have found that generally girls who are plain, not ugly and not beautiful, have not found themselves ruined by either. They are probably the least riskiest as far as cheating goes.

I would ask though, if you really are the Great Catch, would she risk losing you to cheat?

 

[youngmack]

I agree with stagger lee. To me it doesnt matter how she looks she will always have options and will cheat even if shes lower than you. These options will sometimes be better looking than you are, have more money do you do and drive better cars. Just because shes a HB 6 and down does not mean guys wont try to ONS her or get head from her.

I have a female friend who i admit is not attractive ,but is constantly getting hit on when i hang out with her in soho. Most guys are thirsty and due to our limiting options will sometimes have to get with "uglier" women

 

[BMX]

yep. It's relatively bullsh!t these days.

 

[In2theGame]

IMO it doesnt matter if shes higher value or lower. If shes a "high value" HB 9+ then the chances for her to cheat are obviously there however she may get so much attention that she may get annoyed at all the guys hitting on her and if she finds a guy she really likes then might stick with him since she's delt with alot of "creeps" but cant let your guard down completely since you know the risk. A lower value chick might definitely cheat because if she has you, it may go to her head at some point and she may feel like she needs more attention from other guys and feel she can get the next guy. The girl you think wouldnt cheat because your higher value may surprise you.

 

[PlayHer Man]

The problem with dating down is you're more likely to end up with a clinger stalker or psycho who will threaten to kill herself if you leave her. :nervous:

Sure its great for your ego to have a woman who will never abandon you.. but you also get a woman you cannot abandon without SERIOUS drama. Think about it.. you are the BEST she can do. She can't replace you!

Don't date down unless you do a FWB situation. Don't make her a serious girlfriend. Spin plates, spin plates, spin plates.