If You Are A Don Juan, Why Do You Even Like Women?

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In my busy world of sales over here I have found some time to write a post that has been on my heart for a while. I am no keyboard jockey, but I do type information when I feel it needs to be addressed, I will call this thread:
IF YOU ARE A DON JUAN, WHY DO YOU EVEN LIKE WOMEN?
This might raise some eyebrows, but after this post you might begin actually thinking about this statement. And no, this is not another thread bashing sosuave, and no ladies, DonJuanForever has not turned gay. Here goes.

There's many definitions defining a don juan and a man, which are basically the same thing. " A don juan is a man who gets all the women." " A don juan is a man who is the prize." " A don juan unites dream and day." And the list continues, but after scanning over all of them, I believe everybody can conclude that a don juan is:
A guy who is no longer controlled by women.

No, I don't mean that he has gone gay on us and is watching re-runs of Queer Eye now, but the don juan is a man who no longer is under submission or controlled by women in any fashion. Matter of fact, a broader definition of a don juan is a man who is not controlled by the world, but is controlled by himself. Make sense?

Anti-Dump made this quote a long time ago and he said "real men are not available, he said they are out climbing mountains," or some sort of wording like that. Now we know that being a man and a don juan are really one in the same, so if you think about it, having to come to a site about women, is actually a indicator that women are on our minds. Make sense?

I mean, you don't come here for the guys do you? Hope not. Some my say they come for the self-improvement, but self-improvement means nothing unless you know who you are, and you won't know that unless you have found yourself. You find yourself in loneliness, not on a website. Then after you found your passion and destiny, you include things around it that will propel you to that goal. So, you might say, well, that's why I am here! But, that is a wrong statement. All the fellow don juans of the past who found themselves, left this site. Where's Pook? Where's Anti-Dump? Where's Senor Fingers? Why? Because it was at that time they began to seek real self-improvement, and understand this site was not about that, but more about, women.

Now, if I am a don juan, like I say I am, women no longer have control over me. I can go without them, correct? So why am I here? If you are a don juan, why are you here? Is it because somehow, we can't seem to get women out of our minds?

What if, all the real don juans in the world, stopped thinking about women, and focused more on goals, how do you think the world would end up? I am starting to see day after day, that women are not what I first believed them to be. They are literally beginning to look like nothing but distractions.

I first believed in "love" but it isn't real. I then believed in women as comrades and companions, but there was a quote that said that if you have 3 good friends in a lifetime, you are a lucky man. So you guys tell me, besides, pvssy, what is it, that women give to us? Fun? Excitement? How can you say you are a don juan, if your excitement and fun comes from another? Don juans are happy and content within themselves? Children? Well, I see nothing else. You can't say family, because its the man who makes and sustains the family and its the woman who cares for it.

Funny as this sounds. But when I was an AFC I wanted women and I wanted them badly. Like a little kid wanting Santa Claus. Now that I have become a don juan, forget acting like a challenge, I literally don't want them anymore because I see exactly what they are now. And that's pvssy! Sex! After a while, it gets old...then what?

Fall in love? Love isn't real. The One? What the fvck is that, you are headed for trouble and heartbreak with that thinking? Look for a companion, like a lover and a friend, but you guys all know, enemies stay the same, friends always change.

If I sound bitter I am not. If I sound angry I am not. I am just feeling like a 12 year old kid, who waited all year for Christmas and stayed up all night waiting for Santa Claus to come in the house, only to realize, that Santa Claus and even Christmas.............are not real. My parents brought those gifts not Santa Claus, and if they would not have great jobs, we would not have no damn Christmas! So why am I singing about St. Nick, I should be singing about St. Daddy and St. Mommy!

If you are a real don juan, I know that you have had the same feeling I am having right now. That women, love, romance, and all that stuff that's related.....are not real. And women are just sex toys. Sorry to hurt someone's feelings who might think women are gods and all, but once you see the light, you will know exactly what I am talking about.

Now it makes sense why men back in the day had multiple wives. Women are just like television, you like to watch more than one show on T.V., and when you HAVE TIME to watch (you know, don juans have a life outside women), you make you schedule accordingly, and watch one at 8, one at 9, and so on. Does this shyt make sense to anybody on this site?
 

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I feel what you are saying. I made a thead recently that has the same basic message. "Where have all the great ones gone" http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=98416

Women only seem great and terrific from afar. Once you start getting alot of them you realize most of them are just a pain in the ass and not worth all the effort. I'd rather spend my time getting rich.
 

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Hey, DJForever

I think you're trying to think about women as sex objects.
Personally, I think of them as people, just like you and me. And I am trying to get to know them. I am actually interested to find out what's going on in a woman's life - what kind of things she's interested at, etc.
And women turn out to be so different..
Once you stop thinking of all the disappointments from them, etc. - they are fun to be with.

I think the real DJ loves and adores women. Yes, loves and adores. Not worships. At the same time, he's got an attitude of:
"I am the god's gift to women" or
"I am the person who can bring fun and excitement into her boring life".

Those statements do not contradict each other. See for yourself.

Women are fun and exciting creatures :)
 

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OceanWindRider said:
Hey, DJForever

I think you're trying to think about women as sex objects.
Personally, I think of them as people, just like you and me. And I am trying to get to know them. I am actually interested to find out what's going on in a woman's life - what kind of things she's interested at, etc.
And women turn out to be so different..
Once you stop thinking of all the disappointments from them, etc. - they are fun to be with.

I think the real DJ loves and adores women. Yes, loves and adores. Not worships. At the same time, he's got an attitude of:
"I am the god's gift to women" or
"I am the person who can bring fun and excitement into her boring life".

Those statements do not contradict each other. See for yourself.

Women are fun and exciting creatures :)

yup...
 

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BuckwildNYC said:
I feel what you are saying. I made a thead recently that has the same basic message. "Where have all the great ones gone" http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=98416
Great post Buck. I can totally feel what you were saying.
Yes, I totally agree that women should not be the focus of your life.
However... you totally forgot to mention how to become this "confident and interesting alpha-man" that has a life of his own and is happy with himself.
Which is the most difficult part :)
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

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DonJuanForever.. That does not sound like a guy who gets women.

It sounds like a philosophy of some old homeless hairy monk or something, somebody who is anti-social.

Guys who get women of course have to clean themselves and be somewhat of AFC to look the right style and all that.

Then they just go "Women like me, so I like them."

It sounds like your saying: "I don't care what anybody thinks I'm going to be/act/look like whatever the hell I want. And then useless objects will then beg for me to put their **** in them!"

Your obviously a KJ or whatever.

Pook figured out the secret, as well as all the other guys.

THERE IS NO AFCs.

Of course we all do it for the *****, but forget about it and live your life.
 
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Buck that was what I was trying to say! Right there!
Ocean, I am not saying I hate women! I am a fun loving guy and I actually love and admire women, really. I always have fun being around them, joking with them, etc. The only thing I see now is that, women are not what I previously thought them to be. Maybe it's a big wake up call, and I am moving to a final stage of Don Juanness. But then again, I think this whole title of don juan, alpha males, etc., I think it adds fuel to the confusion fire. In one way I see women as being fun to be around and being like I want them to be, in another way I see women as being the total opposite. While I don't really have trouble attracting them, I guess the ones I want I am not finding, so, I guess I should sit down and re-strategize my market strategy. But I don't know yet.
 

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OceanWindRider said:
Hey, DJForever

I think you're trying to think about women as sex objects.
Personally, I think of them as people, just like you and me. And I am trying to get to know them. I am actually interested to find out what's going on in a woman's life - what kind of things she's interested at, etc.
And women turn out to be so different..
Once you stop thinking of all the disappointments from them, etc. - they are fun to be with.

I think the real DJ loves and adores women. Yes, loves and adores. Not worships. At the same time, he's got an attitude of:
"I am the god's gift to women" or
"I am the person who can bring fun and excitement into her boring life".

Those statements do not contradict each other. See for yourself.

Women are fun and exciting creatures :)
Very good post women are people just like me there no different expect for having a puzzy,lol. Yeah using women as objects is wrong they have feelings as well they deserve to be treated with respect.I mean how would you like it if some guy was using your mother as an object?Exactly you wouldnt like it,but you would like it if she is treated as a human being with resepct.
 
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well bvbidd you can think what you want, I don't post much on here to be a keyboard jockey. Once you become a don juan maybe you will start to see that women are not what they are "promoted" to be, and for you to say guys have to be AFC to get women shows who the real lack of experienced guy is and who the real KJ is.

Buddy.
 
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And guys for clarity, if you read the post, I did not say I used them as sex objects but that's all I have discovered them to offer me that I could not offer myself, and that love and romance were not real. Experienced people and those that can read I will respond to from now on.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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DonJuanForever said:
In my busy world of sales over here I have found some time to write a post that has been on my heart for a while. I am no keyboard jockey, but I do type information when I feel it needs to be addressed, I will call this thread:
IF YOU ARE A DON JUAN, WHY DO YOU EVEN LIKE WOMEN?
This might raise some eyebrows, but after this post you might begin actually thinking about this statement. And no, this is not another thread bashing sosuave, and no ladies, DonJuanForever has not turned gay. Here goes.

There's many definitions defining a don juan and a man, which are basically the same thing. " A don juan is a man who gets all the women." " A don juan is a man who is the prize." " A don juan unites dream and day." And the list continues, but after scanning over all of them, I believe everybody can conclude that a don juan is:
A guy who is no longer controlled by women.

No, I don't mean that he has gone gay on us and is watching re-runs of Queer Eye now, but the don juan is a man who no longer is under submission or controlled by women in any fashion. Matter of fact, a broader definition of a don juan is a man who is not controlled by the world, but is controlled by himself. Make sense?

Anti-Dump made this quote a long time ago and he said "real men are not available, he said they are out climbing mountains," or some sort of wording like that. Now we know that being a man and a don juan are really one in the same, so if you think about it, having to come to a site about women, is actually a indicator that women are on our minds. Make sense?

I mean, you don't come here for the guys do you? Hope not. Some my say they come for the self-improvement, but self-improvement means nothing unless you know who you are, and you won't know that unless you have found yourself. You find yourself in loneliness, not on a website. Then after you found your passion and destiny, you include things around it that will propel you to that goal. So, you might say, well, that's why I am here! But, that is a wrong statement. All the fellow don juans of the past who found themselves, left this site. Where's Pook? Where's Anti-Dump? Where's Senor Fingers? Why? Because it was at that time they began to seek real self-improvement, and understand this site was not about that, but more about, women.

Now, if I am a don juan, like I say I am, women no longer have control over me. I can go without them, correct? So why am I here? If you are a don juan, why are you here? Is it because somehow, we can't seem to get women out of our minds?

What if, all the real don juans in the world, stopped thinking about women, and focused more on goals, how do you think the world would end up? I am starting to see day after day, that women are not what I first believed them to be. They are literally beginning to look like nothing but distractions.

I first believed in "love" but it isn't real. I then believed in women as comrades and companions, but there was a quote that said that if you have 3 good friends in a lifetime, you are a lucky man. So you guys tell me, besides, pvssy, what is it, that women give to us? Fun? Excitement? How can you say you are a don juan, if your excitement and fun comes from another? Don juans are happy and content within themselves? Children? Well, I see nothing else. You can't say family, because its the man who makes and sustains the family and its the woman who cares for it.

Funny as this sounds. But when I was an AFC I wanted women and I wanted them badly. Like a little kid wanting Santa Claus. Now that I have become a don juan, forget acting like a challenge, I literally don't want them anymore because I see exactly what they are now. And that's pvssy! Sex! After a while, it gets old...then what?

Fall in love? Love isn't real. The One? What the fvck is that, you are headed for trouble and heartbreak with that thinking? Look for a companion, like a lover and a friend, but you guys all know, enemies stay the same, friends always change.

If I sound bitter I am not. If I sound angry I am not. I am just feeling like a 12 year old kid, who waited all year for Christmas and stayed up all night waiting for Santa Claus to come in the house, only to realize, that Santa Claus and even Christmas.............are not real. My parents brought those gifts not Santa Claus, and if they would not have great jobs, we would not have no damn Christmas! So why am I singing about St. Nick, I should be singing about St. Daddy and St. Mommy!

If you are a real don juan, I know that you have had the same feeling I am having right now. That women, love, romance, and all that stuff that's related.....are not real. And women are just sex toys. Sorry to hurt someone's feelings who might think women are gods and all, but once you see the light, you will know exactly what I am talking about.

Now it makes sense why men back in the day had multiple wives. Women are just like television, you like to watch more than one show on T.V., and when you HAVE TIME to watch (you know, don juans have a life outside women), you make you schedule accordingly, and watch one at 8, one at 9, and so on. Does this shyt make sense to anybody on this site?
Dude with that kind of thinking you will end up prison.You wanna know why?Because most rapist and serial killers think like you.They think women are only good for sex so they rape them and even kill them.Because they see women as nothing but sex toys,how would you like it if someguy only saw your mom just as a sexy toy?You would not like that,and what if your in the position where women are just using as a sex toy.You got a very bad mindset if a women were to read what you posted, she would slap you or never talk to you or have sex with you again.Dont you know that every human being as feelings.What if a women was using a rich guy only for money so he can buy her clothes.Thats what your saying man let that mindframe go or else you will end up in someplace you dont want to be.In matter of fact when your in 40's you will need a women just one women for love to sit and have a family.Trust me about this one :moon: lol
 

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DonJuanForever said:
And guys for clarity, if you read the post, I did not say I used them as sex objects but that's all I have discovered them to offer me that I could not offer myself, and that love and romance were not real. Experienced people and those that can read I will respond to from now on.
You have a stupid mindset your not a don juan,your a ****en evil rapist who will commit horrible crimes again females jsut because you only discovered them as sex objects,remeber how would you like it if someguy or guys only saw your mother as a sex object?Huh your pathetic man your not a real man your a boy who isnt going to succeed in life.
 
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Dream x, first of all, I owe my own business and I have been very successful already, so its too late to tell me I won't succeed in life. So watch ya mouth!

When I look at you guys writing these responses to a post that DIDN'T SAY I wanted to rape women but basically summed up about the lack of quality women available, I have no other reason to wonder that you all are nothing but keyboard jockeys with nothing else better to do. You see what Buck did, he read the post and made talked about WHAT I SAID, you guys on the other hand, MADE UP SOME SHYT, and ran with it. If you guys have nothing else better to do with your time, fine. But guys like dream x, I'll bet a car that I've made and WILL MAKE more money than you in your lifetime, so watch ya mouth little boy.
 

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dreamx said:
You have a stupid mindset your not a don juan,your a ****en evil rapist who will commit horrible crimes again females jsut because you only discovered them as sex objects,remeber how would you like it if someguy or guys only saw your mother as a sex object?Huh your pathetic man your not a real man your a boy who isnt going to succeed in life.
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haaaaa:crackup::crackup::crackup:

Careful guys, we've got an FBI agent here, doing his work to uphold the government's feminist agenda.:crackup:

*cries laughing*
 

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Gubby said:
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Careful guys, we've got an FBI agent here, doing his work to uphold the government's feminist agenda.:crackup:

*cries laughing*

Exactly, what happened to the days when we saw a girl we liked, clubbed her on the head and dragged her into our cave and had our fun. WTF, where did all this feminist shyt come from. Somehow a bunch of beta males got control of our governments and ruined the world.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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DonJuanForever said:
Dream x, first of all, I owe my own business and I have been very successful already, so its too late to tell me I won't succeed in life. So watch ya mouth!

When I look at you guys writing these responses to a post that DIDN'T SAY I wanted to rape women but basically summed up about the lack of quality women available, I have no other reason to wonder that you all are nothing but keyboard jockeys with nothing else better to do. You see what Buck did, he read the post and made talked about WHAT I SAID, you guys on the other hand, MADE UP SOME SHYT, and ran with it. If you guys have nothing else better to do with your time, fine. But guys like dream x, I'll bet a car that I've made and WILL MAKE more money than you in your lifetime, so watch ya mouth little boy.
First of all I didn't make up **** ok?I said your thinking is like a rapist thinking.I never said you will rape women or wanted to rape women.I said you think like a rapist thats I said,its jsut my opinion on my thoughts about your thread,man your an idiot.I will admitt that I am a keyboard jockey and a loser,yes all I do is be on the computer alot so im not going to lie about that.And im amazed that you own your own bussiness if any of the female employess knew what you think of them.They would all quit in less than a second,Im assuming that you treat your male employess better then your female employess.And well im actually one of the top students in my school and I got a scholarship to one of the top 10 colleges in America!So I will be able to make more money then you when I finish college,so who is the idiot you are.But im not gonna waste my time argueing the rapist like you.
 

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Gubby said:
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

haaaaa:crackup::crackup::crackup:

Careful guys, we've got an FBI agent here, doing his work to uphold the government's feminist agenda.:crackup:

*cries laughing*
Thats not even funny,dude grow up!
 

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DJ4Ever, isn't this just another one of those phases we all go through where we think "All women are sh1t"?

Everybody has had those phases... and yes, all women ARE sh1t when you think about it rationally.
But, after a while, you end up going after them again in pursuit of that state of hapiness you once knew.

Basically, my advice to you would be to simply let go of all of those things. Stop worrying about finding "happiness", because you simply never will. Life is meant to go in ups and downs. If you try to avoid those downs and do everything you can to stop them, they will be much deeper than the ups ever will be.
If you simply accept the fact that you have downs as well, you will notice that those downs suddenly don't feel that bad anymore.

I'm having a really hard time conveying my messages these last few days, it seems like words never really cover what I'm trying to bring across. If I'm not being clear enough or if I'm incorrect at points, just say so :D
 

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dreamx,
you're being judgemental and immature.
You are making conclusions based on thoughts in your own mind, not on what DJForever said.
So stop and think again and try to understand what he means. And even if you cannot understand - it's not the reason to start calling names and create a flame war.
 
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