If polygamy were acceptable in the west, would you do it?

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Would you marry more than one woman if you could? Now I know some of you will say, why bother getting married if you want a bunch of women, just have girlfriends. And I can totally see the point of that.

But what if you did want to have kids and a stable home and such. But you hated the idea of being stuck with only one woman for the rest of your life and would like some variety. Do you think polygamy would be a bad idea?

It does have some social implications though. It could mean that the available pool of women will shrink and some guys will be left without. You'd have wealthy alphas with literally harems of women and they'd be hoarding them while some betas will go without. So polygamy would be great for alphas, and likely be a bum deal for betas.

I don't know why this question popped up in mind. I guess I have issues with monogamy. I know that it's effed up to cheat on a girl that loves you. But even if I loved a girl and had a hot girl flirting with me, I don't know if I could avoid messing around on the side. It's weird, for most guys, they are are very non-committal when younger and as they get older settle down and want something stable. But with me it's been the opposite. When I was in my mid 20s, I wanted to fall and love and get married, have kids and all that stuff. Now at 33, I find myself less interested in commitment than at any time in my life. I don't know if all this PUA stuff is messing with my head or what.
 

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I wouldn't want to put up with one wife let alone two.
 

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I would not do it. It's wrong (only my opinion). Plus, although I do well, I doubt I could afford it. Further, I'd bet most of those who practice this, survive on the taxpayers nickel bigtime (public assistance). That's REALLY wrong.
 

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speakeasy said:
It does have some social implications though. It could mean that the available pool of women will shrink and some guys will be left without. You'd have wealthy alphas with literally harems of women and they'd be hoarding them while some betas will go without. So polygamy would be great for alphas, and likely be a bum deal for betas.
You just gave the reason why polygamy was first outlawed a thousand or more years ago.

Assuming I could actually get more than one girl at a time I like the thought of having 3 wives. One white, one Japanese, one Hispanic. A different flavor every night, and I'm not talking about their cooking :p
 

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speakeasy said:
It does have some social implications though. It could mean that the available pool of women will shrink and some guys will be left without. You'd have wealthy alphas with literally harems of women and they'd be hoarding them while some betas will go without. So polygamy would be great for alphas, and likely be a bum deal for betas.
It's much worse then that. Currently polygamous mormons in American can get away with it without all that much social implication because they use the rest of society as a dumping ground for their left over males. These uneducated naive young men 99% of the time end up homeless and strung out on drugs because they have no idea where to start when it comes to dealing with our very different world. Again it works because not that many people in the US really care about how they became homeless drug addicts. They just know they are homeless drug addicts so there's no need to investigate further.

If polygamy were an accepted practice and the entire culture embraced it, there would be no place to put the displaced males. Think about how pissed you get when your girlfriend gets stolen from you now add the insult that the person doing the stealing already has two or three girlfriends. There would only be so much of that before somebody or somebodies are gonna get shot. There'd most assuredly be a war between the haves and the have nots without questions.

Also think about it this way. In order to maintain a polygamous relationship you have to essentially be like a lion at the head of a pride. Strong enough to put fear into anyone who would challenge you at all times. If you showed ANY weakness, the challengers would smell your fear and be at your door step. Even if you didn't show any fear, you'd have to protect what's yours all the time and be worried about what the next guy could be planning to take your crown. Any way you slice it, it takes an already complicated situation and compounds it exponentially.
 

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Maxtro said:
You just gave the reason why polygamy was first outlawed a thousand or more years ago.

Assuming I could actually get more than one girl at a time I like the thought of having 3 wives. One white, one Japanese, one Hispanic. A different flavor every night, and I'm not talking about their cooking :p
For me add a fourth, a black chic and I'm good to go. I have to admit, the thought of having a wife of every race is one reason I think it's a good idea. If I married a black girl, I'd hate to think that I'll never be able to mess with a Hispanic girl for the rest of my life, of I'm with a white girl, not being able to mess with a hot Japanese girl. Really, I love ALL the varieties of women, from Irish redheads to Brazilian and Colombian Latinas to black to Japanese, and of course all the different mixed race girls in between. I love them all.

PRMoon said:
Also think about it this way. In order to maintain a polygamous relationship you have to essentially be like a lion at the head of a pride. Strong enough to put fear into anyone who would challenge you at all times. If you showed ANY weakness, the challengers would smell your fear and be at your door step. Even if you didn't show any fear, you'd have to protect what's yours all the time and be worried about what the next guy could be planning to take your crown. Any way you slice it, it takes an already complicated situation and compounds it exponentially.
We already have that. There are guys that already have lots of girls in rotation. They may not have a certificate issued by the government saying they are married, but these women are still taken out of the dating pool by one prolific alpha. So what's the difference?
 

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speakeasy said:
We already have that. There are guys that already have lots of girls in rotation. They may not have a certificate issued by the government saying they are married, but these women are still taken out of the dating pool by one prolific alpha. So what's the difference?
The difference is it would be an established process as opposed to a lifestyle choice. In most polygamous societies women don't have the right to say whether they want to be in relationships or not. They are taught, or more or less brainwashed, to believe that it's the will of god or something to be with a male with multiple wives. Also having girls "in rotation" is not synonymous with a polygamous relationship. The typical woman is just as possessive of mates as guys are of theirs. True it's not uncommon for a guy to be dating several women at once but if it's usually under the pretense that the individual girls are the only ones in the relationship. If you brought them all together all hell would and often does break loose.
 

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you think america is bad now.


think about it. if a guy who gets women could marry 5 women.. what does that do to the avg joe?

both ends of the spectrum would get out of control. the fat slob women who have AFC guys worshiping them becuase the guys have no choice, and the guys who get laid would take it to the extreme


but no i wuldn't. too much work
 

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The "alphas" would have a lot of trouble controlling the "betas". Basically there would be a surplus of men without stable partners causing trouble for the establishment. They would engage in prohibited sexual behavior, including trying to fvck the polygamous mens' wives. That is why they expel the young men from the Mormon communities. The rich old men want to marry the 13 year old girls. If they let horny teenage boys stay around then they'd face sexual competition. Because as soon as they neglect their young brides one of the horny teenage boys or young men with no available women will be there trying to put his d!ck up in her. Also horny men who don't have socially acceptable sexual outlets generally break the rules to get their rocks off. Meaning the men shut out from stable partners will engage in sexual behavior considered deviant or sinful.
 

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I disagree with this knee-jerk alpha-beta stuff. Humans are a bit more complex than a pack of dogs.

If polygamy were legal, we may see a *slight* increase in men with multiple wives, but this would be over a long period of time. Something like this would take time to make it's way into mainstream acceptance, and there are still MILLIONS of Christian-leaning Americans who would be morally opposed to it. You guys make it sound like the horses are at the gates and as soon as the bill is signed all these mythical "alphas" would snatch up all the desirable women.

Furthermore, I really dont think the best women would be lost to polygamy. Quite the contrary, it would be the pea-brained bimbos who have so little character they would share a husband with 8 other women.

Polygamy was never really a successful enterprise, old as it is. Even back in Abraham's day, the Bible talks of the problems and strife having multiple wives brought him. They were always jealous and scheming against each other.

The modern-day Mormon example is weak; this is an extreme sect of Mormonism that is bordering on brainwashing in my opinion. And I've seen those documentaries...it's not like those guys have harems of 8's and 9's.

So the short answer is no, it wouldn't work socially; and personally I'm not even keen on living with ONE woman, let alone many.
 

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If it were possible for one guy, then it would be possible for all guys, at least in theory. The only dudes that could successively pull this off in the past were extreme alphas. And not like walk up to a girl and ask for her number alpha, more like kill any guy that looks at you funny alpha. Or kill any guy that somebody said looked at you funny.

In a natural polygamous habitat, only the extremely ruthless would be able to sustain a harem, then there'd be guys that literally died trying, then there'd be the vast majoroty of dudes who didn't get squat. Only despots and emperors were capable of this in the past.

In a sort of controlled environment, like mormons of fifty years ago, you'd be surrounded by fat whiny bytches that would be continually be draining your wallet, and not your kock.

The only non-mormon example I can think of is hugh hefner, but is he rich beyond belief, and isn't married to more than one.

I think the Japanese of the samurai days had the best idea. One legal wife, who controlled the family finances, but plenty of consorts to keep hubby happy after a hard day of head chopping. But those dudes were also few and far between, and had to be in good with the local daimyo to pull that off.


While it is true the the most ubiquitous male fantasy is multiple partners that are available at a moments notice, it would never be accepted by society at large unless it was implemented by sheer brute force.

And that is why Man invented houses of ill repute.

And I also agree with most other posters who say that living with more than one woman that was legally entitled to your stuff would be a nightmare come true.
 

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I think the question the OP should be asking is could you do it?

Only the extreme alphas would win in this kind of situation. Seriously think of the professional footballers, the boxers, the best of the best in the world of sport that earn millions. Girls practically worship money these days and these men are physically fit as well. They could easily get a harem going of many, many girls, possibly into hundreds.

The BETAs though would either die out or resort to acts of extreme violence and kidnap and rape in order to satisfy extreme sexual fustration. The 40 year old virgin would become the norm rather than the exception in this kind of world.

Polygamy is a path leading to the end of 'civilization' and a return to the rules of the 'wild' and the 'animal kingdom.'
 

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Colossus has the only reasonable answer in the whole thread to me.

I never have believed in all this "alpha vs. Beta" sh1t. Humans are more than just a pack status. People can surprise you many times on their level of confidence. It's not just black and white

and even if it was. Lets look into the animal kingdom. Sure, alpha males get females and run the show, but while they're sooooo busy fighting for their dominance, the little "beta" sneaks in and mates with his females. That's a bad look for something that's supposed to be so alpha. Even the wives of "alpha" males have been known to stray from time to time. So you might think that this system is so great that it would leave the nerds sexless, but in reality that is far from the truth.

I'm willing to bet that the mormon wives have cheated and not many of them like the idea of sharing a husband with 9 other chicks. Not to mention that many of them were forced into marriage by these "alpha" Males you keep bringing up. yea, that's real seduction skill right there

I don't care how much she may like a guy, I dont think a sane chick would like to knowingly(key word) share him with a billion others. She might get off on the idea of him being a nice catch among the ladies but that doesn't mean she wants his d1ck in all of their vaginas. If that were the case then his novelty wouldn't count for sh1t. Would you wanna ride a bike that everyone and their granny has been on? If this were legal then most chicks wouldn't go for it in the first place.
 

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It would be very difficult to keep all those women faithful. A lot of men have just one wife and they can't keep her faithful. It would be very hard to keep multiple wives faithful, especially with lots of horny womanless bachelors around. I've heard of women cheating on their husbands with older men. I've heard of wealthy men's wives cheating. I've heard of a rich powerful high-ranking drug lord's wife running off with her lover with $ 1 million from her husband's bank account. So I'd like to see polygamous men try to keep their wives faithful. The only way the Mormons can do it is by expelling all the young single men from their closed community.
 

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Why you guys so against marrige and stuff? I think it's awsome... If you're cool the women should be faithful or am I wrong? I dunno what kind of marriges people have so that the wife is NOT faithful, it must be themost boring thing in the world, I don't blame the women!!! I say marrige FTW must be so cool! And no I don't see myself in 20 years thinking "damn I wasn't thinking properly" I think I'm gonna have a wife that's gonna be faithful and it's gonna rock but I dunno about you guys...
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

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People posting on this thread seem to be missing a crucial point.

Men would be allowed to have multiple girlfriends/wives.

But WOMEN would also be allowed to have multiple husbands/boyfriends, if they so chose. This would be a crucial demand on our society were women are now granted equal rights as men. It would change the dynamics a bit from this scenario of alpha males hoarding all the chicks, because the woman would be free to fvck whoever they want and face no repercussions.
 

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Polygamy is already legal and widely practiced in the west; it's called no-fault divorce.

Americans are perhaps the foremost practitioners of polygamy, we just don't do it concurrently. I know a guy right now who has 4 wives and 5 children. He's currently only sleeping with number 4, but he is still responsible for all of them financially and emotionally.
 
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