I was average looking and now i must be ugly

[Ricky]

I feel like the stress that hit me the last 5 years etc has really put a toll on my looks. I was never a guy that got women solely based on his looks and still managed to be successful over the years. I married a great woman and now have a daughter i love dearly. I have been good and havent been cheating but miss the game and flirting greatly. So i went to the darkside recently when my sex life started to dry up with the wife. I have looked and chatted with women online and they all want a picture fairly quickly. No matter how good my online game is initially they all pass once they see my picture.

So i am pretty sure my average looks have gone south. I dont necessarily plan to date or cheat but itd be sure nice to upgrade my look
For professional reasons.

Going to hit the gym hard and do whatever i can to
MinimiZe the wrinkling, gray hair and hair loss.

 

[expos]

So i went to the darkside recently when my sex life started to dry up with the wife.

OK. This is coming from a guy (me) who is divorced and can look back and recognize the stuff he'd done that would cause the sex life to dry up.

You need to win back your wife first. You made a vow in front of your family, friends, and maybe your church? You need to get YOUR act together first and then help your wife get her sh!t together too. She needs some guidance, because I'm pretty sure she isn't getting it from you.

Get to the bottom of why she doesn't want to get down with you. There are numerous threads on how to do this. But the bottom-line is that you need to get working on you and becoming someone she WANTS to bang again.

If the woman is crazy, BPD, bipolar, etc., cut her loose. But if not, you need to help her out and NOT seek out some crazy woman online for sex.

I dont necessarily plan to date or cheat

Liar. If someone were to be highly interested in you, I'm sure you would have figured out a way to hook up with her and not get caught.

Going to hit the gym hard and do whatever i can to
MinimiZe the wrinkling, gray hair and hair loss.

So what made you quit taking care of yourself and what happened to you that caused so much stress? You need to be on point for yourself and be accountable for your appearance. Contrary to belief, the jersey does not come off after the race. Women, including your wife, are always looking at other men and wondering if they can do better. Even you - Mr. Married Man - are looking for a better deal. Don't think for a second that your wife can't get some on the side, as there are no shortage of desperate chumps looking to get laid.

You need to keep your mind + body in top form for everything including sex, your profession, and your health.

Look, I'm not ragging you. Be glad you came here. You are going to get some good advice.

 

[Moroder]

I married a great woman and now have a daughter i love dearly.

That's a great setup. More than most guys can claim. And yet there's something missing. You say it's game and flirting. I think it might be something else. Going out on a limb here, but you'll hopefully bark when I'm wrong.
What I like about the DJ mindset is that it's never about women. It's about your life. And if you think women are the point, well, zoom that lens back and see the bigger picture. Change that picture to the point where you don't care about women anymore because you're so busy unlocking your potential, admitting dreams, working to get there etc. The point where being a chick magnet is no more the goal, but a collateral benefit.
So my question would be: If you peel back that "miss the flirting/game" and the wrinkles/hair concern, what is behind it?

 

[RangerMIke]

Don't cheat on your wife. Try and make things work with her.your relationship balance is out wack. Plenty of references here to help you get on track. If you try and it still doesn't work out then it will be experience in your next relationship. You have to learn from mistakes or you'll just do the same thing again.

Don't cheat. If the marriage has to end then do it the right way. You have a child with this woman and you don't want to be dealing with a miserable resentful women until your kid is 18.

 

[Tenacity]

Guys come on. The advice for this guy to "learn some tactics" so his wife who ALSO made a vow to him (which you guys haven't acknowledged) would SLEEP with her Husband again, is just hogwash.

It's always the guy's fault where either you aren't "seducing" them good enough or your dyck isn't big enough or (insert whatever crap here), it's never the fact that chicks are just low quality as a whole. Chicks routinely STOP fvcking you once you are in an LTR or married, the sex dries up and a lot of times the chick lets herself go in terms of her looks. So the guy, needing to get off, looks to Escorts or other side pieces.

It's why I keep saying, don't get married and don't have children. Fvck and date women for short term relations, the moment she stops fvcking or the moment her "true" personality comes out and you see the BYTCH that she really is.....then you can easily leave without any financial losses.

There's no reason this guy should even have to look to cheat, his WIFE (who made a vow to him) should be fvcking him.

 

[Moroder]

it's never the fact that chicks are just low quality as a whole

Bullsh!t. Men and women are human beings, there's an even distribution of kick-a$$ and a$$hole specimens in both genders.

 

[Tenacity]

Bullsh!t. Men and women are human beings, there's an even distribution of kick-a$$ and a$$hole specimens in both genders.

Naw. Don't get me wrong, most Men today are low quality but their low quality standing is obvious. Women with PhDs are low quality in terms of what they bring to the table, their manipulation tactics, etc.

The fact is though when a guy is on bullshyt he's CALLED out on it. When a chick is on bullshyt, you are told as a guy that you just didn't "seduce" her good enough, or to "stop whining about it," or "life isn't fair." Nobody EVER calls out women on the bullshyt they do.

 

[RangerMIke]

We give advice to guys. Not women. We as men can not control what the women do in the relationship, and we can do as men is control what WE do.

If you are convinced that you have done EVERYTHING you can to make this relationship work, and you have a uncompromising taker as a wife, don't troll for chicks and don't cheat on cheat on her, divorce her. Doing stuff that this only makes the divorce longer, more expensive, and uglier.

 

[MatureDJ]

I think that having the wife notice an open tab with Match.com or AshleyMadison.com might do wonders. After she asks him about it, he could say that he has been feeling horny lately and that she just doesn't seem to care. That will get the old hamster wheel spinning; of course, to do this, he must be comfortable with her wanting a divorce.

I still remember an episode when I was simply dating a woman that didn't want to put out and while she was over at my place one day, another plate called. It was tense then, but she ended up finally putting out the next day (of course a few weeks later she went apeshinola on me and threatened to kill me - whether that was a legitimate threat, I didn't know, but I didn't *want* to know! :nervous:.)

 

[sharkbeat]

It's always the guy's fault where either you aren't "seducing" them good enough or your dyck isn't big enough or (insert whatever crap here), it's never the fact that chicks are just low quality as a whole. Chicks routinely STOP fvcking you once you are in an LTR or married, the sex dries up and a lot of times the chick lets herself go in terms of her looks.

Women can't lead a relationship. Women never initiate anything, like ever. No matter how alpha/beta/omega/bpd she is, she just won't do it. She will talk about, ***** about it, complain about it, angry about it, anything else, but do. I am perplexed by this mystery too.

 

[Sam777]

Maybe you should find out why the sex life dried up. Chicks can look around too. If you love her maybe invest some time there to find out what's going on. I never met anyone worthwhile online. Psychos and desperate chicks..... Most profiles of hot chicks are bogus.