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I think I'm an AFC - Advice needed quickly. (Very Long)

Joeybphs

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Alright, I think I'm turning back to AFC. Here I am a sophmore in high school. I've been reading up on this site and I've just stayed single and played it up with a few girls this last year. Now, a year back I was interested in this one girl - cutest thing I've ever seen, and I sat next to her last year, and I sit next to her in two classes this year. Known her for 3 years now. She's only kissed on guy, not a makeout, just a peck, and she's never had a boyfriend. No experience at all.

I was shot down last year, and we've become pretty close friends [hate that word], over this course of the year. She tells me the guys she's interested in, I return the favor by giving advice and telling things from my side of the spectrum. She's flirted harmlessly but never shown any real interest until what happened on Friday night through Saturday.

Maybe I just suck at picking up hints and making the first move but I'll tell you what went on.
We were just chatting like usual and she told me out of the blue that she felt like kissing someone. And she asked me for tips. Then she told me about the guys she wouldn't mind kissing, and said stuff like
"I want to kiss someone! but who? All the guys I want are unavailable"
Of course, I wasn't on her list, and when I gave her mine she wasn't on mine.
I gave her pointers and linked her helpful articles that could give her tips, and told her that all it boiled down to was do what comes natural and don't make a big deal of it.
Finally I told her "sorry, if there's anything I could do to help, I would,"
and she was like "oh, i think i have an idea of what you mean."
and i just continued, and she asked if I wanted to know her idea.
I said sure, and she said "hahah, you'd help me practice!"

We went from there, and she admit she thought about 'us kissing' and she asked what I'd done with a girl. I told her [about everything but sex], and here's where the story confuses the hell out of me gentlemen:

She asked me whether I thought things would be weird in class on Monday.
I told her "that depends on what you want."
and she said she wanted it to be normal.
I said alright, and bid her goodnight, and sweet dreams. [it was about three in the morning, we'd been talking for almost 7 hours.]
she woke up saying "speaking of dreams, I had a very interesting one last night.
She told me it was "uhh, me and you, doing most of the things we talked about last night."
"we made out ALOT, you felt me up, aand you fingered me."
This is surprising.. I've never seen a sexual side of her before, and this just attracts me more.
Then she said
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ok. the dream wasnt bad.
like i wasnt completely weirded out when i had it."
and she said it was better than any other dream she'd had about a guy, and that it was the first time she'd had a dream like that.
She said she'd wondered how I'd respond when she told me
she'd thought about kissing me,
and asked if I'd ever thought about it.
I said yes,
and she said this year? [in reference to last year]
and I said yes.
I said I known she hadn't,
and she said as of last night I have.
I told her it seemed like I was a last resort,
and she said 'more like a spur of the moment.'

We didn't talk too much that day, and she went to bed early.
Today I messaged her saying good morning,
and asking if she'd slept well,
to which she replied "good afternoon. yes, i did. what's up?"

I am really sorry for all that wall of text, but I really need advice and I want this girl more than anything right now. I definitely don't have oneitis; I haven't let myself get that attached, but everytime I re-read the conversation I want her more and more.
I don't know whether she's ****ing with me, or she's interested,
or if she just wants to forget about it or what.

If you read and respond, I'll drive to your place, kneel and kiss your feet for that.
Thank you, DJ's of sosuave. You've helped me more than you know.
 
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Friend zone is a b1tch, ain't it?

You need to ask yourself how much you care about this friendship. If you want to turn this into something more serious you're going to have to make a move. I'm not talking about TELLING her anything; I'm talking about physically making a pass at her. If she turns you down then you forget the b1tch and move on.

You see, the reason she talks about all of this sh1t with you is because she's comfortable with you. You're a NICE guy who listens to all of her problems and caters to her bullsh1t. You need to break out of this cycle. I'd suggest you start withdrawing your attention from her. Oh, and make a fvcking move on her. Try to kiss her or grab her ass or something. Well, maybe don't grab her ass.

Good luck.
 

Joeybphs

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Gonna give me your address so I can fulfill my promise?

Kidding.
Seriously though, thank you. The only reason this has got me so much is because I've never seen her like this before and really it's the whole her dreaming about me thing.
I think I'm overanalyzing the whole situation,
and I'm guessing telling her I'm interested would be a bad idea?
Is that why you said not to tell her anything?
 

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How old are you. Seems like she just wants you to practice kissing.
Don't get too attached to her. If just kissing is cool for you go for it and let her practice it with you. Youll enjoy it too. But what you should know is that she will eventually start talking with some other guy and ignore you totally. Be ready for this , don't say you didnt expect.

Also , spin some more plates dude. You seem desperate.
 

Joeybphs

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I know DTP, I know. The fact I even had to come and ask for advice for something as simple as this bothers the hell out of me. The reason I haven't been spinning any plates at all is due to that my grades have slipped and I don't have time right now.


Sophomore, meaning I'm 16.
 
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Joeybphs said:
Gonna give me your address so I can fulfill my promise?

Kidding.
Seriously though, thank you. The only reason this has got me so much is because I've never seen her like this before and really it's the whole her dreaming about me thing.
I think I'm overanalyzing the whole situation,
and I'm guessing telling her I'm interested would be a bad idea?
Is that why you said not to tell her anything?
Exactly. You don't tell her anything. Show her through your actions. It sounds to me like she's getting off on fvcking with your head, but maybe she does want to get with you. Who knows? That's why you try to kiss her and see what happens. If she gets pissed, so what? Maybe she'll know better than to lead you on then.
 

Joeybphs

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Hahaha, sounds like a win/win for me.
thanks, I'm trying not to show her that I'm confused.
Another friend of mine told me to just straight up ask her if she's
interested or not.
But I read somewhere that providing girls with an ultimatum is a bad idea.
 
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How about you try this: ask her to kiss you on the cheek and when she goes in for it you turn and kiss her on the lips. If she's feeling it, you go in for the real deal. Know what I'm saying!
 

Joeybphs

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No idea if you were being serious, but I would totally go for that. Or when she does, I'll be like 'You missed.' then go for the real deal.
 

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You dumb nigga.... she was saying she really wants to kiss you/mess around with you without saying it outright like that (embarassed/fear of rejection/she's VERY inexperienced)
 

Joeybphs

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intrextrovert said:
You dumb nigga.... she was saying she really wants to kiss you/mess around with you without saying it outright like that (embarassed/fear of rejection/she's VERY inexperienced)
you sure about that?
 

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Should Have kissed her.


Next time, if you can
 

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Just go for it, if she's not interested, she'll be the one losing something.
Remember, you're always the most awesome thing that can happen to a girl.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

intrextrovert

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Joeybphs said:
you sure about that?
Look at your post man...

GIRL TO GUY: I WANT TO KISS SOMEONE
GIRL TO GUY: I HAVE AN IDEA YOU COULD PRACTICE KISSING WITH ME
GIRL TO GUY: IM THINKING ABOUT KISSING YOU HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT KISSING ME?
GIRL TO GUY: I HAD A DREAM WHERE WE MADE OUT AND YOU FINGERED ME AND IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING AND GOOD DREAM

Though I find it kinda funny and cute in a little kid way how amazed she is by kissing.
 

Joeybphs

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haha, thanks. I was in the BEST mood all day, and everything involving her went well. Still intrex, I'd feel bad if I went to make a move and she rejected it after all that. Would make me doubt anything I thought about any skills I had; like I read her wrong or something.

Just being careful, maybe too careful.

And intrextrovert, she's only kissed one guy so that's probably why she's so amazed by it :p
 

S.Y.L

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****, just kiss her, thats about as obvious as it gets bud. I don't think you can go wrong.
 

Joeybphs

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S.Y.L said:
****, just kiss her, thats about as obvious as it gets bud. I don't think you can go wrong.
Thanks.
And thanks everyone else too,
you guys make me feel good about what I'm doing here.
Like I can't go wrong ;)
Still relatively new to all this stuff,
and I'm glad you took the time out to help a newbie.
Tis cool.
 

nicelife

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Joeybphs said:
I'd feel bad if I went to make a move and she rejected it after all that. Would make me doubt anything I thought about any skills I had; like I read her wrong or something.
dude shes fvcking hinting at you so bad ..

stop over analysing everything and just go for it..

get her talkin about it again next time you see her in person when you guys are alone (this will get the idea of you and her kissin on her mind again) - just keep getting closer & closer to her as you talk about it, then at a pause in the convo pick up your sacks and give her a little kiss on the lips..

if she responds well go in again for the make out and i think you know the rest..

if she responds badly just laugh it off and tell her shes a d!ck and it was her idea! (playfully) remember its only awkward if you make it awkward..

but for real, sounds like shes keen for atleast a little no strings fun here .. just dont get your hopes up for a relationship or something if thats what you want.. but just go with it, see what happens, this is life remember, a fvcking adventure!
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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