I really dont think looks matter

[biggoal]

As Kat Williams once said: Being broke is a motherf*cking protection cause you cant do all the f*cked up sh*t you want to do.

On the bottom row, the second to last pic on the right Tom looks his best IMO. Haircut, light skin. The last photo he's too tan. But he looks way better than he does when he was just out of college.

 

[Chuck Taylor]

On the bottom row, the second to last pic on the right Tom looks his best IMO. Haircut, light skin. The last photo he's too tan. But he looks way better than he does when he was just out of college.

you on the wrong forum homie.

 

[biggoal]

you on the wrong forum homie.

Nothing wrong with comparing other men.

However, again he's famous and isn't the norm to compare to. He has multi millions. Most men including this forum don't have that kind of money for surgery but you can train harder to be in shape like him at least.

 

[Chuck Taylor]

 

[zinc4]

I don't think looks matter.

In high-school there was this guy Vito. He was super short and just the ugliest guy ever with messed up ears and stuff. Anyways he literally got bjs from over 100 girls at my school.

I'm 5'7 now at 39. Literally about 2 years ago I was about 295 pounds and I work at a factory and lots of hot girls were into me even super hot 18 year olds. I also have crazy bad posture.

I started approaching recently. The biggest difference for me was when I started listing all the positive qualities I have in my head and reframing the negative things to highlight the silver lining. This made me think I was way better looking. I have lost a bunch of weight. But once I did this one trick I started getting tons of hot girls staring at me. I wear a mask btw most of the time when I'm walking around.

I'm not saying I'm amazing with women. Im actually just starting to date again and rusty as hell. Im just saying I'm not in shape 235 and have really bad posture and short and wear a mask. And I just wear jeans and a hoodie.

But my body language is amazing and I have confidence and am crazy calm from thousands of hours of meditation and I think that's the only reason girls like me.

I'm not bragging. Tons of you are way better with women than me. I also live with my parents and the girls at work know all this.

Why do you guys think looks matter so much? In my mind I'm a 10 and I think that's what they like I think.

Explain

If you really believe that that it likely projects into your tonality when yiu speak body language and everything else. This is inner game. You limely demonstrate a strong frame as well.

Looks definitely do matter though. But game is real as well and it's not just talking PUA style bs.

 

[BeExcellent]

From the women’s’ locker room:

Yes. Looks matter. Especially to more beautiful women. Weight is a big deal. No excuse for being over weight.

And the top men don’t go for overweight women either. Why should they?

Water seeks its own level. Usually you’ll see HB8 and 9 beautiful women with objectively handsome men. The exceptions stand out because they are just that…exceptions.

 

[Striker_93]

From the women’s’ locker room:

Yes. Looks matter. Especially to more beautiful women. Weight is a big deal. No excuse for being over weight.

And the top men don’t go for overweight women either. Why should they?

Water seeks its own level. Usually you’ll see HB8 and 9 beautiful women with objectively handsome men. The exceptions stand out because they are just that…exceptions.

Thread closed

 

[SW15]

Looks matter more if you're using swipe apps to meet women. If you solely meeting women in the real world, you still can't be sloppy and overweight. I think you have a little bit more leeway on looks in the real world as compared to the digital world.

Mid to lower tier men are ending up with overweight women in a lot of cases. Guys who are slightly above average in looks who don't have much game and resort to swipe apps often end up with an overweight woman.

 

[tanchinos]

Women seem to have ridiculous standards for male looks as well, with those OLD surveys from POF or OKC showing women see 80% of men as average or below, so maybe trying to be good looking is a fool's errand.

Tolerating and simping hotties- that seems to be the aspiration for simps and guys in general (after all, for some of us our manhood was measured on that*). I'm so busy don't know what one looks like. Pedestalising HB women whilst beating down others after the same woman is outdated and counterproductive. *Perhaps certain generations only

 

[Mike32ct]

It’s all about “looks” or things that can augment (or potentially compensate for lack of) looks.

In other words, there’s looks, and there are “wildcards” like money, status, etc.*

*Im not convinced personality is a valid wildcard because of the friendzone or dancing monkey/jester-maxxing situations, but that’s a whole different debate.

 

[RangerMIke]

The only time looks matter is initial attraction. And only if you happen to meet a chick’s minimum level of acceptable appearance. After that it’s all how you behave.

You don’t have to be good looking just good enough for the woman you approach.

 

[mrskinnypantz]

It does work for the women who only want sex with a good-looking guy. If you are good looking then you should know that women are seducing you and not the other way around lol and I didn’t deny that verbal game is important

unless of course you are so good looking that you already know women want you ,now its a race to see who makes the first move then you seduce her before she seduces you , that should earn extra points right?
would that be confidence or arrogance?

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Looks do matter, what guys get wrong is that they cannot understand a girl's preferences to save our lives. We tend to underrate pretty boys/feminine features and overrate masculine square jaw line chad features.

 

[Striker_93]

It does work for the women who only want sex with a good-looking guy. If you are good looking then you should know that women are seducing you and not the other way around lol and I didn’t deny that verbal game is important

Someone gets it

 

[IKO69]

Feels good to know when I go out and make eyes with a rando and she smiles i'm being appreciated for my personality.

 

[Chuck Taylor]

Ugly people say this. End of story.

 

[Focal core]

Not for a ltr. Good looking guys are used by women for that stuff, social proof, sex. There is to much competition for the girl and they are too insecure to handle them, because they can get a new girl anytime and will leave them immediately after they get what they want which is sex and social proof but rarely ltr. Good looking + confidence = you get immediately the player label, what women fear

Agree with this, month ago i had this girl with his bf in a bar, she make out with me infront of him i get her number and after her bf couldn't take it anymore he drag her outside, i occasionally hear from her now and then but looks like she wouldn't leave him with i think he's a 5. and i quote what you say Good looking + confidence = you get immediately the player label, what women fear is true.