I have women who consistently approach me/make it very easy to approach them

[bigdave17]

but they're never dating material (they're either not cute, cute face but chubby body, cute face and nice body but single mom, cute face and nice body but 30+ years old)


What do you guys make of this? is it just a question of quality women having so many dating options where they are never going to put themselves out there in terms of either approaching a man or making it easy for a man to approach him?


I was at Lakeshake this weekend (country music festival in Chicago) and I got annihilated on friday night. I was dancing/making out with this cute but chubby Spanish girl. Of course as typical, I never got any of the same signs of interest from the cuties there. Do quality mid 20s girls just have a billion dating options so they're never going to put themselves out there?

 

[Infern0]

You aren't attractive enough to get interest from those more attractive females, it's that simple.

There isn't some unwritten rule that girls 7/10+ aren't allowed to express interest, its just that you are at a certain level and it maxes out below those attractive girls.

You have two options

1) try improve your attractiveness, work out, get better clothes, haircut etc etc

2) do the whole game thing and get through the 20 rejections to find the one 7/10 who will give you the time of day

 

[bigdave17]

You aren't attractive enough to get interest from those more attractive females, it's that simple.

There isn't some unwritten rule that girls 7/10+ aren't allowed to express interest, its just that you are at a certain level and it maxes out below those attractive girls.

You have two options

1) try improve your attractiveness, work out, get better clothes, haircut etc etc

2) do the whole game thing and get through the 20 rejections to find the one 7/10 who will give you the time of day

I don't know what the hell else I can do


I'm 5'10 195 very muscular lean
I have very thick/pretty/wavy jet black hair now - I have slight recession in the corners but I'm getting that surgically fixed friday
Dress impeccably stylish
Around a 7 - 8/10 in the face - olive complexion with very strong jawline/chin


At lake shake, I saw maybe 10 guys better looking than me by a significant margin...that's 10 out of maybe 500

 

[Infern0]

I don't know what the hell else I can do


I'm 5'10 195 very muscular lean
I have very thick/pretty/wavy jet black hair now - I have slight recession in the corners but I'm getting that surgically fixed friday
Dress impeccably stylish
Around a 7 - 8/10 in the face - olive complexion with very strong jawline/chin


At lake shake, I saw maybe 10 guys better looking than me by a significant margin...that's 10 out of maybe 500

If it's TRUE that you are in the top 5% of men then it's a personality/self esteem issue and you are self sabotaging because it should be easy work for you.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

If it's TRUE that you are in the top 5% of men then it's a personality/self esteem issue and you are self sabotaging because it should be easy work for you.

He self sabatoges. He needs to get laid find steady puzsy. That's his best route.

 

[bigdave17]

If it's TRUE that you are in the top 5% of men then it's a personality/self esteem issue and you are self sabotaging because it should be easy work for you.

How do women know my personality/self esteem before they even get to talking to me?


Why are the lower tier quality so eager to get with me then and the ones in my league never show any interest in me?


As far as my looks go, I don't think I'm some male model god. I just put in a TON of effort towards looking good (grooming, hygiene, fashion, working out, hairstyle, etc... all is completely maximized) and 95% of men put in a very mediocre effort. On pure genetics/facial bone structure, I'm probably like top 25% of men (which is nothing that amazing)

 

[MrWood]

I'm 5'10 195 very muscular lean
I have very thick/pretty/wavy jet black hair now - I have slight recession in the corners but I'm getting that surgically fixed friday
Dress impeccably stylish

i am bald/shave with a white goatee
i have a paralized floppy arm
i dont go to the gym
i am 5'8 150lb
i am 52yo
i wear tshirts and jeans

I just put in a TON of effort towards looking good (grooming, hygiene, fashion, working out, hairstyle, etc... all is completely maximized)

I dont...

i do not get aproaced by under HB7
i do not get hit on by fat chix

i give 0 attention 0 smiles to under HB7, they are not on my radar, they dont pass the squelch filter I have set.

you make out with a fat HB5, I make out with a hot 19yo while my HB7+ date went to the bathroom at a club


what is my secret then? am I so fvcking special? why are you not having success with +HB6 ?
why are you a seemingly perfect HB8 dude getting nothing but fat chix?

something here does not add up...

 

[bigdave17]

i am bald/shave with a white goatee
i have a paralized floppy arm
i dont go to the gym
i am 5'8 150lb
i am 52yo
i wear tshirts and jeans

I dont...

i do not get aproaced by under HB7
i do not get hit on by fat chix

i give 0 attention 0 smiles to under HB7, they are not on my radar, they dont pass the squelch filter I have set.

you make out with a fat HB5, I make out with a hot 19yo while my HB7+ date went to the bathroom at a club


what is my secret then? am I so fvcking special? why are you not having success with +HB6 ?
why are you a seemingly perfect HB8 dude getting nothing but fat chix?

something here does not add up...

I have decent looking women interested in me but they're always single moms or 30-35+ years old

honestly, I don't know what else I can do, I've maximized every aspect of my being. I go to places and I'm always one of the best looking men there. I should have women in that HB 7-10 range wanting to be with me badly

 

[MrWood]

I should have women in that HB 7-10 range wanting to be with me badly

yet... you dont.

as an older guy I obvious love chix as young as possible, every old guys dream is to score a hot 18yo to fvck...
or a scaled HB (younger = HB points vs fat)

on this scale a cute 20yo HB8/9 is likely not going to look at me, but I want her, but know I am an old creep to her.
on this scale a HB8 40yo beats a fat 20yo HB6 any day and I am in no way interested in that 20yo based on look/body image alone
however the 20yo HB6 thinks I am too old for her, but the fact is I would not have dated her in my 20s
however the 20yo HB6 thinks she is "all that" and so precious that my interest would be seen as creepy... lol

a 5'9 20yo in a short skirt, but abit thick, cute face thinks she is so above dudes like us... because get her naked and she becomes a HB5
she will hit the wall faster than the speed of light...

always single moms or 30-35+ years old

beta buks / alpha fvcks

 

[RedScorpion]

honestly, I don't know what else I can do, I've maximized every aspect of my being.

Every aspect of your PHYSICAL being.

Girls are more affected by personality than guys are. You can be an average guy and still pull if you have the right confidence, ambition, how you talk with them, etc.

Try maximizing the non visible aspects of your being.

 

[bigdave17]

Every aspect of your PHYSICAL being.

Girls are more affected by personality than guys are. You can be an average guy and still pull if you have the right confidence, ambition, how you talk with them, etc.

Try maximizing the non visible aspects of your being.

I don't get any opportunities to showcase my personality is the huge frustration

Everytime I see someone I like, they're in a very difficult position to approach. The women who either approach me or make it somewhat reasonable to approach them are always way below my league

 

[mrgoodstuff]

How do women know my personality/self esteem before they even get to talking to me?


Why are the lower tier quality so eager to get with me then and the ones in my league never show any interest in me?


As far as my looks go, I don't think I'm some male model god. I just put in a TON of effort towards looking good (grooming, hygiene, fashion, working out, hairstyle, etc... all is completely maximized) and 95% of men put in a very mediocre effort. On pure genetics/facial bone structure, I'm probably like top 25% of men (which is nothing that amazing)

Bigdave17,

I've been where you are at . When your too focused on your own looks it makes us "needy" and we put them on a pedastal . The energy comes off wrong too. It is not abundant.

Keep going at it until you have a few ( maybe heavier than you like ) sexy Latinas on your c0ck . I'm serious the "hot" girls will be at war with you cause your attention to details in your looks. They won't like being the lessor good looking one . You need to let the slightly less hot babes "sugar you up". You need abundance in that you have pvssy you can fvck whenever you want. When you nail it you'll be slaying babes all over Chicago, rejecting most . Have fun, and enjoy climbing pvssy mountain.

 

[bigdave17]

Absolute toxic narcissism. Men have to approach and it's a numbers game.

I'm okay with approaching but why don't I have any easy opportunities where a hot woman wants me to approach her?

Why are the only ones showing me signs of interest so far below my league?

 

[RedScorpion]

I'm okay with approaching but why don't I have any easy opportunities where a hot woman wants me to approach her?

Why are the only ones showing me signs of interest so far below my league?

Overthinking it to the ninth level. Hot women are not in a different reality as the rest of women.

Try talking normal with them. Not even flirting. Just as a regular human being.

 

[bigdave17]

Overthinking it to the ninth level. Hot women are not in a different reality as the rest of women.

Try talking normal with them. Not even flirting. Just as a regular human being.

that's the only way I do talk to them

I want a girlfriend. i don't care about getting laid

 

[bigdave17]

Whether he realizes it or not, Dave is not looking for a girlfriend. He is not looking for a LTR. He is looking for a wife. He is looking for a woman to spend the next half-century plus with him, bear his children, etc. and he wants this woman to appear with a sign that says, "here I am please come talk to me".

IF this is not true.... IF he is not looking for the perfect wife, then he wasting his time worrying about sh*t he needs not worry about at all.

What does it matter what her skin will look like 20 years from now?
What does it matter if she is 33 and not 27 years old?
What does it matter if she makes $70K/yr or $5/hr + tips as a waitress?

IF he is looking for a wife, however, he is seeking a woman that SHOULD be unique. She SHOULD be hard to find. Such a woman SHOULD NOT be easily found in a bar or a gym. It SHOULD be a difficult task.... an extremely difficult one.

To expect such women to be plentiful enough that one should fall into your lap on any given night is just straight up delusional and stupid.

If you want to set the bar high for wifey material, STOP BITCHING that it is too hard to find one, especially when you're not being aggressive with the search and you just sit back waiting for bright green lights. The standard itself intentionally makes it a very difficult task. You cannot sit back and take it easy on any front, especially when approaching and communicating.

If you are not searching for a lifelong partner to bear your children, get over yourself, stop worrying about a woman's skin quality 20 years down the road and just have some damn fun already.

At my job, I see old white couples and its horrifying how much older the woman looks and this is considering white men don't age that well either. My dad at 60 looks younger than most 45 year old white guys (I'm middle eastern)

But there is a very easy solution to this - date somebody ethnic. Hispanic, Black, Middle Eastern, Asian - they all age well. This looking old at 40 **** is strictly a white person thing. I would love a Hispanic wife

the rest of what you said is right on the money

I hate rejection and I'm looking for an extremely high quality woman. I dunno how to get over this and just approach every woman that I like

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Overthinking it to the ninth level. Hot women are not in a different reality as the rest of women.

Try talking normal with them. Not even flirting. Just as a regular human being.

He needs to create a true abundance with the babes who currently want to give it to him. It'll give him an arrogance about the whole thing, because if hot girl jerks him around hell just go fvck one of his girls. He can't lose. Some of these ladies he looking past want to treat him like a god.

Wereas the hot girls that he's elevated over him want to jerk him around and not even feed him crumbs .

 

[Von]

Women have a 6thsense for a man personality.

They know instantly.

It's like magic.

The women who think you smell good will get close to you. Than you need to seduce them by talking.

Talking refers to making a vocal/discussion that will make her emotionally connected to you (by being interesting, her talking 80% of time etc..)

If you behave on SoSuave like you do in person.. Its normal they don't know your "personality" or they "don't have the time to know you" ... because you are all ME ME ME PERFECT.

Nobody like a perfect person.

You probably heard women tell you this : "we don't know how to get a hold of you" "we don't know how to put our claws on you" "we don't know how to put our ropes around you" "we don't know if you serious or not" .

Theses are all indicators from women that tells you 1) they attracted 2) they find it impossible to move forward with you

 

[MrWood]

this is like a job advertisement...

the things that attract the kind of woman you want, are actually very scary to 99% of them, they need time to consider things...
they can actually feel the job posting you are advertising, making the interview and a lifelong job choice... on the first contact.
A woman that is highly attractive and desirable has many jobs to choose from... dating is the interview process

so your job posting is is attracting a lower level of applicants that see this as the only possible way for them to get into the work force... so to speak

 

[MrWood]

you would do well to read the newsletters... (at the top of every page)

"Mistake #5 — Letting Her "Lead" the Conversation
Most guys are so unsure of themselves when talking to a woman that they look for the woman to give them "approval" or "permission" before they take any lead in the conversation.

And this is DEAD wrong.

The minute a woman realizes you're looking to her to lead the conversation... her attraction instantly disappears."


http://www.sosuave.com/articles/talk/6-conversation-mistakes-you-make-with-women.htm