I have just lost all respect for the advice on this site.

[iCatch]

I just read the thread about the guy asking if he should cheat or not and there were replies saying yes. What's the point of going for all these girls if you're just going to cheat on them? What's the point in finding a quality girl if you're going to cheat on her anyway? What's the point of this site? I've been reading around and I thought this site helped guys be more confident with women so hopefully he could find a girl that is worth a relationship, but it seems like you guys are just using these DJ skills to fvck. Does anyone here have any damn morals?

I thought the point of looking for a girl was to look for a potential partner. How are you going to look for a potential partner if you're going to treat her like garbage anyway? I just lost so much respect for most of the posters on this site.

 

[DarkShade]

Partner? Maybe for a while until she can prove herself. Why sign away exclusivity immediately?

 

[int3l]

don't judge us all based on the actions of a few. Many of us here are here to become better people, to become, in essence- Don Juan. Women are not the be all and end all. We set goals to achieve, we have lifestyles we want to pursue, for some that may be to get with as many women as possible, for many others women are just the icing on the cake.

Many of us have often mistaken PUA for Don Juan, however, the two are drastically different. Don Juan is more a code of living as much as it differs for everyone. For me personally it is to become a better person, socially, mentally, spiritually and physically. It's up to you to determine which path you ultimately decide it means for you.

 

[KontrollerX]

I think you are angry at T!ttyman's recent post.

Dude you have to understand people here are DJ's in vastly different ways.

There are the morality DJ's.

Then there are the Pook worshippers.

Then there are guys like myself, Macavoy and T!ttyman who don't give a damn about morals and are all about hooking up with chicks over having relationships with them and if we are moved to get into some relationship by some chick being awesome we are still about benefitting ourselves first so if a hot piece of ass comes along who is not our girlfriend we are not going to turn it down. If we value our relationship we will just keep it secret.

So yeah pick your DJ poison.

If you want to roll with the morality crew that is your perogative.

But don't hate on people who don't DJ the way you choose to.

Do what works for you and let others live their lives how they are going to live em.

 

[iCatch]

Sorry, I didn't realize how some of you think. For me, I want to get to know girls so hopefully I can eventually find one that is good for me. Yeah, having a lot of hot girls that would fvck you on command would be awesome, but in the long run I'd rather be with just one. Just think, you'll have a ton of fun having all these hot girls at your fingertips and your ego will get a huge boost, but what's going to happen when you're let's say in your 40s? That isn't exactly old, but when I'm around that age I'd rather be with one girl that just gets me, you know? I just think that physical pleasure won't fulfill me in the long run, which is why I want to get to know as many girls as I can so I can find the perfect one. My apology to those of you that got offended at my first post. I guess I want to learn how to be a DJ to make it easier for me to find that one girl.

 

[armadon]

Different strokes for different folks.

 

[iCatch]

The Good Man....Superman (aka the "nice guy" with balls)
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Confident and assertive. Takes action. Doesn't take sh*t from people but is respectful. Treats women the SAME as him. Isn't just "himself"..but rather his BEST SELF.Sexual. Will make a move.Decisive. Mature. Secure. Courageous. Is a leader.Is a good listener, but respects his time. Needless.Ambitious. Powerful, loyal, romantic and respectful. Is the hero of the day. Gets the RIGHT girl. Tends to stick with one girl rather than hopping up on bytches. Is genuine.

Pros: You don't suffer from oneitis, but rather you attract the true DIME.
Cons: It's a fine line between oneitis and knowing that you have the best girl in the world.

This is what gets me thinking sometimes.

HONESTLY if you were with several girls and had "oneitis" for one of them, doesn't that tell you something? You've been with ALL THESE GIRLS and yet just this one girl gives you this feeling of "oneitis". I think some of you guys are taking the DJ Bible WAYYYYYY too seriously. Sure most of the advice is GREAT for getting girls, but as far as oneitis I don't really agree. I DO agree that the "beginners" or the "AFCs" that get oneitis need to change their attitude, but for the "Don Juans" that have been with MANY girls need to realize that the feeling they get with a certain girl may mean something special. I mean seriously, if a guy has been with all these girls and for some reason that one girl gives you certain feelings, don't you think you should at least give it some thought? Not "Oh well the DJ Bible says this is oneitis. Oneitis is BAAAAAAD" If that one girl, out of the tons of girls you've been with, can give you that feeling of "oneitis" then I think it's safe to say that that girl has something the others don't have. Some of you take the DJ Bible way too seriously and I think it would benefit you if you at least thought about some things on your own.

With the thread that got me a little aggravated, the one asking if he should cheat or not, if you have to ask if you should do one thing or another then obviously you had second thoughts. Obviously you care about your girlfriend which is why you had to ask others for help on what to do. If you just want to fvck, why ask other's on what to do? The person that started that thread needed something to make cheating sound like a good thing.

 

[int3l]

this is what they've been trying to tell you without so many words, **** what other people think, you're here for your own reasons to find your own self. The End.

 

[The Deacon]

OP, I doubt that these overly paranoid DJ/PUA ideologies got anyone action. Some of these guys are so ridiculously beaten down by the shallow nature of woman that they alienate them as some enemy to be conquered. Half of the FRs I read sound more like a porno movie than some real life situation. The key to attracting women is to be attractive, not some paranoid super-geek who analyzes social interaction like it was a math formula.

 

[I.A.F.Y.B.]

Wake up!! People cheat all the time.

 

[Birdem]

People like doing different things... Some people love to cheat... Some people love "the one" story as much as you do... Nobody is right or wrong...

 

[KingBeef]

I think you are angry at T!ttyman's recent post.

Dude you have to understand people here are DJ's in vastly different ways.

There are the morality DJ's.

Then there are the Pook worshippers.

Then there are guys like myself, Macavoy and T!ttyman who don't give a damn about morals and are all about hooking up with chicks over having relationships with them and if we are moved to get into some relationship by some chick being awesome we are still about benefitting ourselves first so if a hot piece of ass comes along who is not our girlfriend we are not going to turn it down. If we value our relationship we will just keep it secret.

So yeah pick your DJ poison.

If you want to roll with the morality crew that is your perogative.

But don't hate on people who don't DJ the way you choose to.

Do what works for you and let others live their lives how they are going to live em.

Well said....that pretty much sums up the 3 major groups of DJ, and there are obviously other minorities as well. You can't really HATE on these guys. The forum is here to HELP YOU...you obviously came here for a reason (whether lack of confidence with women, sex, etc.) NO ONE SAID YOU HAD TO MOLD YOURSELF TO BE SOMETHING YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH.
YOU STUDY THE ADVICE WITH AN OBJECTIVE FRAME OF MIND AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT CAN BE OF USE TO YOU.

HATING OTHER PEOPLE WHO DON'T FIT YOUR MOLD IS SUCH A WASTE OF TIME. As you grow and progress as a man you may realize that not only will you somewhat fit a category but you may fit 2 or 3 BECAUSE YOU WERE TOO AFRAID TO REVEAL YOUR "TRUE INNER SELF."

You know and i know that the world (generally speaking) isn't black and white any more, there's a lot of grey.

- Kingbeef

 

[KingBeef]

This is what gets me thinking sometimes.

HONESTLY if you were with several girls and had "oneitis" for one of them, doesn't that tell you something? You've been with ALL THESE GIRLS and yet just this one girl gives you this feeling of "oneitis". I think some of you guys are taking the DJ Bible WAYYYYYY too seriously. Sure most of the advice is GREAT for getting girls, but as far as oneitis I don't really agree. I DO agree that the "beginners" or the "AFCs" that get oneitis need to change their attitude, but for the "Don Juans" that have been with MANY girls need to realize that the feeling they get with a certain girl may mean something special. I mean seriously, if a guy has been with all these girls and for some reason that one girl gives you certain feelings, don't you think you should at least give it some thought? Not "Oh well the DJ Bible says this is oneitis. Oneitis is BAAAAAAD" If that one girl, out of the tons of girls you've been with, can give you that feeling of "oneitis" then I think it's safe to say that that girl has something the others don't have. Some of you take the DJ Bible way too seriously and I think it would benefit you if you at least thought about some things on your own.

With the thread that got me a little aggravated, the one asking if he should cheat or not, if you have to ask if you should do one thing or another then obviously you had second thoughts. Obviously you care about your girlfriend which is why you had to ask others for help on what to do. If you just want to fvck, why ask other's on what to do? The person that started that thread needed something to make cheating sound like a good thing.

Who said you couldn't be a blend of "NICE GUY WITH BALLS" AND "THE PLAYER"??? Truly think about it.

Even for me, from time to time those "NICE GUYS WITH BALLS" once in a while revert, for short instances, back to plain old nice guys. YOU HAVE TO LET YOUR TESTOSTERONE SOMETIMES DO THE TALKIN.

I'll be the first to admit i still struggle once in a while with this.


- Kingbeef

 

[slaog]

For me 1 good girl is better than 1billion ordinary girls who you feel nothing for and who don't improve your life. So to find 1 good woman is my goal but us 1 woman men seem to suffer from oneitis more so have multiple women on the sidelines just in case. That doesn't mean you have to cheat, women do that all the time (have AFC's hanging around).

I believe if you want 1 good girl with high standards you have to live by those standards yourself. You can't be a person that have one night stands and expect the woman to be ok with that if she has those high standards. Same goes for cheating etc.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

Sorry, I didn't realize how some of you think. For me, I want to get to know girls so hopefully I can eventually find one that is good for me. Yeah, having a lot of hot girls that would fvck you on command would be awesome, but in the long run I'd rather be with just one. Just think, you'll have a ton of fun having all these hot girls at your fingertips and your ego will get a huge boost, but what's going to happen when you're let's say in your 40s? That isn't exactly old, but when I'm around that age I'd rather be with one girl that just gets me, you know? I just think that physical pleasure won't fulfill me in the long run, which is why I want to get to know as many girls as I can so I can find the perfect one. My apology to those of you that got offended at my first post. I guess I want to learn how to be a DJ to make it easier for me to find that one girl.

First of all, stop apologizing for the way you look at things. If you are like the majority of people, by the time you are in your 40's, you'll probably be here again and chasing a$s once again, after you have separated/divorced, and done raising kids. You'll be singing a different tune, "I was married for a long time, and trying now to raise my confidence and just date and have my fun." Just the way things usually turn out.

 

[Quiksilver]

On the contrary..

Most of the (good) advice on this site guides us to NOT treat any girlfriend you have like she is 'the one'. Treat her how her actions dictate she should be treated.

The "treat her like garbage" advice is just that; garbage. It's an extremist way of saying "Don't get swept off your feet by the first girl who comes your way".

You don't have to respect posters on this site, but there are many of us who are successful with dating, and to run away because there are some immature virgins here as well isn't smart on your part.

 

[WC2]

I think you are angry at T!ttyman's recent post.

Dude you have to understand people here are DJ's in vastly different ways.

There are the morality DJ's.

Then there are the Pook worshippers.

Then there are guys like myself, Macavoy and T!ttyman who don't give a damn about morals and are all about hooking up with chicks over having relationships with them and if we are moved to get into some relationship by some chick being awesome we are still about benefitting ourselves first so if a hot piece of ass comes along who is not our girlfriend we are not going to turn it down. If we value our relationship we will just keep it secret.

So yeah pick your DJ poison.

If you want to roll with the morality crew that is your perogative.

But don't hate on people who don't DJ the way you choose to.

Do what works for you and let others live their lives how they are going to live em.

 

[TheHumanist]

I think you are angry at T!ttyman's recent post.

Dude you have to understand people here are DJ's in vastly different ways.

There are the morality DJ's.

Then there are the Pook worshippers.

Then there are guys like myself, Macavoy and T!ttyman who don't give a damn about morals and are all about hooking up with chicks over having relationships with them and if we are moved to get into some relationship by some chick being awesome we are still about benefitting ourselves first so if a hot piece of ass comes along who is not our girlfriend we are not going to turn it down. If we value our relationship we will just keep it secret.

So yeah pick your DJ poison.

If you want to roll with the morality crew that is your perogative.

But don't hate on people who don't DJ the way you choose to.

Do what works for you and let others live their lives how they are going to live em.

Too bad many can't be that discerning, especially the impressionable newbies. While you acknowledge and say it here that there are multiple ways and to respect each other path, with "each his own." It is not well established there that there are many ways to "be a DJ" which is basically becoming a well adjusted, successful, and happy person. In the past, debates have flared up and it well again, and the same arguments is made again including call one side morality police (and basically morals are worthless) and the other as cynical bastards. There's need to be more recognition since there is more than one path.

 

[Jeffst1980]

Keep in mind that whatever "path" you take is going to have a profound influence on your life in years to come.

If you live a life with no thought of morals, you are going to attract other people that lack morals into your life.

If you believe that women are the enemy, you are going to secretly resent every woman that you sleep with.

In the end, like attracts like.

When DJ's get married, it's usually to a high quality woman that possesses similar attributes. A DJ that values loyalty, kindness, and respect will likely attract a woman that values these things.

A so-called "Bad Boy" that acts selfishly and cheats, steals, and manipulates others may also be able to score high quality women, but high quality woman will eventually leave these guys. A desirable woman with self respect will not tolerate a cheater.

As long as they possess the traits that are attractive to women (covered in this site), both the "honest" DJ and the "Bad Boy" will get laid and score HB's. However, life is about much more than getting laid. Most of us wish to have good friends that will look out for us, a happy marriage with a loving partner, well-adjusted kids, financial stability, respect from our peers, a carefree retirement, and grandkids we can spoil. These are the things that are going to be impacted directly by the way you treat others.

And for comparison's sake: When AFC's get married, it's usually to a very b!tchy, jealous, whiny, controlling woman (a female AFC, if you will).

 

[Kev07]

signing away exclusivity and cheating are 2 different things.

from what it sounds like, the thread was asking if the dude should cheat or not, not if he should become exclusive.

if you're going to become exclusive, stick to your word