I have had it with women

[Fruitbat]

Just, that's it for me. I can't deal with them anymore.

Just finished a divorce (my doing).

A girl I have had a massive crush on for ages used my vulnerability to reel me in to a game of electronic flirting which suggested it was going somewhere, and then took me round in circles. Total b1tch, exploiting me for entertainment.

My next one, met recently, laid 2 times, now flakes and doesn't have the balls to just cut it off, just goes quiet.

I have just come to the conclusion that you either have it or you don't, I can't get women to chase no matter what I do, and the older I get, the less I want to do with them.

I try hard to not get bitter about it but I just get p1ssed off with the way they are, they have no heart, no soul, and some people like me just aren't hardwired and made to be anything more than entertainment and a source of security for them.

I think you just either have it or you don't, fvck game, fvck them all. I am just going to be single and bang the occasional hooker.

Seriously, they are a total waste of effort and time.

 

[adam225]

I've turned into a women hater as well. They are all so f*cked up.

 

[Desdinova]

So... two girls and you call it quits. You need to build up a bit of skin when you're dealing with rejection. You can't let it bother you so much.

A couple months back, I was getting to the point of being sick of dealing with women. You know what I did? I took a break for two months. Just focused on my own 5hit and didn't bother to pursue anything. I needed it badly and I'm glad I took it. Right after I got back into purusing women, I ended up with a 23 year old nympho. She fvcks like it's the end of the world.

Divorce can fvck you up too. I'm still working on one lingering issue from mine. I became desperate for attention from any woman I dated because my wife was never around and I spent most of my marriage being lonely. If I didn't get the amount of attention I wanted, I cut them off.

Don't let the divorce make you bitter against all women. Think of it as just a life learning experience (and don't get married again ever!) Keep your gfs close, but not too close.

 

[Fruitbat]

So... two girls and you call it quits. You need to build up a bit of skin when you're dealing with rejection. You can't let it bother you so much.

A couple months back, I was getting to the point of being sick of dealing with women. You know what I did? I took a break for two months. Just focused on my own 5hit and didn't bother to pursue anything. I needed it badly and I'm glad I took it. Right after I got back into purusing women, I ended up with a 23 year old nympho. She fvcks like it's the end of the world.

Divorce can fvck you up too. I'm still working on one lingering issue from mine. I became desperate for attention from any woman I dated because my wife was never around and I spent most of my marriage being lonely. If I didn't get the amount of attention I wanted, I cut them off.

Don't let the divorce make you bitter against all women. Think of it as just a life learning experience (and don't get married again ever!) Keep your gfs close, but not too close.

The divorce didn't fvck me up, she was fairly devoted, didn't cheat, and she was the one who was fvcked up by it, not me. The only thing I got from it was a little guilt over leaving her.

It's just I am now remembering the confusion, pain and bitterness of dating. I am a professional salesperson, so I am more than used to dealing with rejection, I just find it very hard to deal with it when it's dating. After all, rejection of my product is just a rejection of my product. Rejection by a woman hits me to my very core of who I am as a human being.

I think this thread is more me blowing off steam than anything else. Every time this happens it feels like it's just as fresh as the first time. I would be far, far happier if you could just ask a woman "why?". I do this in my job - "Do me a favour, I know you don't like my product but can you tell me why so we can improve it?". No woman would ever tell you the truth, and you would come off as a bit wierd for asking, but I need to improve.

I know on the surface, I have been single like 5 mins and I have already got laid once, so I shouldn't be unhappy. I prob didn't want a LTR with her anyway, but I wanted to fvck her a few more times and have the satisfaction of being the one doing the dumping.

My ego just gets destroyed by this sh1t every time

 

[Fruitbat]

Just what I really want to know is how to develop the alpha "I don't give a fvck it's her mistake" frame. I try but at points it gets to me and I start to question everything about myself. I wish I could just find that inner confidence to not give a fvck, but I find abundance theory a difficult one, when I know the work I need to put in for just one lay....when the sex tap goes away it p1sses me off. I know what I should think but I just can't seem to actually think like this in reality

 

[PlayHer Man]

Check out this thread I started back in January:

Link --> http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=201238

Most modern men are far behind modern women in terms of where they stand today. Women have long moved on from the sentimental "love, love, love" bonding and loyal commitment (even if they tell you otherwise). Modern women care about power and control via resources and status. This is what they're after.

Most men are still mentally in the 1950's when it comes to women. Still expecting the "love, love, love" deep bonding and loyal commitment. WAKE UP. The game has changed. Women are racing with cars and men are racing with bicycles. :crackup: :crackup:

If you really want to be "alpha" and have the "I don't give a sh!t attitude" you need only to accept the truth about women. Weed out the sentimental Disney movie sh!t in your brain and accept reality.

Once you accept reality.. it gets very easy very fast. You stop looking for qualities in women that simply are not there. You see them for what they are. :yes:

 

[VladPatton]

I totally understand your state of mind, and I agree with your thoughts on women. It really does get to you after a while. It's like playing a game where you die at the same level every time. You know it's coming, you know what's gonna happen, it isn't pretty, and bam, there it is. So why play it?

Here's what I did/do. Just go about your life, and when a girl crosses paths with you that you like, try and game her up and see what happens. Invest minimally. You still have to try on some level to acquire a mate. If nothings seems to come of it, so be it. No need to hate anyone.

Do whatever it is you love and never stray from that, for it'll keep you sane. As for as mackin girls left and right on the street, in the mall, at work, online, that, I found, is just not for me. I could be doing 47 other things instead of that.

Just chill, be cool, get your head back, don't try too hard, and go with the flow of life, stay healthy, groom, work out, be social, and keep your head on straight.

 

[mv.89]

Brother, it's not only you. Recently, I've seen many men go down this path and get so bitter.
You are stronger than most people here if you understand rejection being a salesperson (if you are that). Apply the same principles here.

I will not say trust me but brother it gets better, it is moulding you into a better person. Soon you'd be so comfortable with rejection that you will laugh at others when they make a similar post.

As Men gets older we gain value and women lose the one trait they use all the life Beauty. Have you ever seen an old guy getting worried over that someone might call him a creep or pervert ? no ! cuz they know b!tches be talking sh!t out of their azzes. Don't put thought into it.

Take everything they say like a grain of salt. You keep in mind YOU ARE A MAN , feel like one, BE ONE.

 

[Fruitbat]

Thanks guys

Always had a problem with female rejection. Doesn't bother me in the slightest with work, it's what happens. I just am an AFC at heart and it knocks me down for a long time, and knocks me down hard.

I am not looking for sympathy, I just need to be a b1tch and vent this sh1t.

Sort of makes me angry more than anything. frustrated and angry. Analyse everything I said did etc.

It's not because I had any deep attraction at all, it's because I lost. That's what p1sses me off. I know there are a thousand other women out there, but I lost that one. Now I have to start over....but I lost that one....starting while writing this to realise the rules of attraction. You could put an HB in front of me now and I would forget, but I would still have this gnawing desire to win this one back. Perhaps if there is one thing I have learned it's don't be available, don't let them know you like them, act like you aren't interested.

At least I had the self respect to basically message to say cheerio after the flake and ignoring, deleted the number and all texts from my phone and defriended from FB.

In the old days I would have kept going for some time trying to push against a **** door.

Life is truly a bastard sometimes, and the sad thing is when it comes to things like this, I cannot blame anyone else but myself and my game.

Fvck I sound like a teenage emo!

(slaps myself in face) come on Fruitbat, shake yourself out of it son!

 

[Fruitbat]

How you feel is pretty normal. Just take women off the pedestal so that the feelings don't last so long. At least you are doing a great job approaching women. Your fear of rejection is not so crippling that you won't even approach, like it has been for me.

Is it normal to want to go and smash her head in with an iron bar?

Perhaps then she will see what a great guy I am?

 

[PeasantPlayer]

The world does not revolve around women and never will

 

[Pimp-sicle]

At least I had the self respect to basically message to say cheerio after the flake and ignoring, deleted the number and all texts from my phone and defriended from FB.

I realize your venting in this thread. Deleting a girl from FB is beta IMO. Tells her that she got to you and you couldn't handle it. Instead of deleting people, just hide them from your newsfeed. You never know what will happen in the future and a lost prospect might come back around.

But instead of getting all emo about it, why not realize the root of the problem and address it?

In other words, when you fail (you should realize this esp since your in sales) its not YOU they are rejecting. They are rejecting your approach.

If that happens repeatedly it should be a clear signal to you that you have a new skill that you need to learn.

It might be the way you dress, your vibe, your opener, your mannerisms etc.

Success is the best confidence builder.

If you aren't achieving the level of success that you want, go back to the drawing board.

Being a member of this board is a huge advantage. You can post your field reports, your conversations with girls etc and get objective advice to steer you in the right direction.







PIMP

 

[GotED?]

I have been where you have been - was divorced a few years ago, and entered the dating scene. I was ripped and fooked by a BPD-like woman, she tored apart my world and took advantage of my vulnerability coming out of a divorce.


Here are things you need to get straightened out in YOUR HOUSE (your mind and body) before you get taken advantage of by BAD women with BAD hamster and cage post-divorce:

1) Watch out for very low-self esteem after a divorce. You may be questioning what is your own worth, seeking approval from women, seeking any sign of validation from women that you are not 'damaged goods' or 'used goods'. Your mind will betray you, you will cave in at any women who would give you a 'second chance'. The fact is, you should approach it that you are a man who was willing to take a risk to love someone and be committed - a lot of fooked up people out here has never been there after age 30 yet in this era. Use that to your advantage.

2) Learn from WHY you picked your ex-wife?? Examine her link to your mother (no, this is not Psychology 101, but very truthful stuff) and personality. What are the similiarities between her and your mother? Do you tend to gravitate towards women who gives you what your mother never did or treated you just like your mother did? (seeking attention, needing to be treated like sh!t, etc).

3) Learn to HATE women to some degree - this is the only way I learned after divorce to heal myself. I took some big hits after divorce while dating and got into really bad situation being used by women. But after a while, at age 40, you see their sh!t 100 miles away (and call them out on it, damn it!) and there are only so many flavors of fooked up women: vanilla, chocolate, and puussy sh!t.

The secret to being able to be attractive to women (and have them CHASE you) is to have the attitude that they all are BULLSH!T until they have proven you otherwise. But you can not pull this off without having 'value' in their eyes about who you are.

So clean house, buddy and ESTABLISH value: look yourself in the mirror - throw away the dirty old image of the married man you are. It took me awhile to REDESIGN the ME that I am after divorce. I learn to do my hair much better, I bought ALL new perfect fitting clothing; from shirt to pants to socks to shoes. You learn to attitude and ART of attraction. The behavior that I can live WITHOUT any of you fooked up women is the KEY ingredient that turns women on. Value is when other women see other women WANTING you, that is the ultimate value.

Perfect your house - develop a killer personality: this means, 360 degree: a sense of humor, strong eye contact, confident attitude without becoming a d!ck, looking attractive, get rid of excess body fat, smell nice, and dress to kill.

Before long, after seeing enough of women's sh!t behaviors, you will come to HATE them just a bit. This is what you need to achieve (usually after you have conquered a HB8+ and been there done that, see the horrific personality they have) before you stop pedestaling them.

Good luck.

Exodus

 

[like2jam]

What's helped me in dealing with rejection is changing my mindset and realizing that they rejected my game, and not 'me'. I mean yeah, some women will reject you no matter how great your game is. But I know for sure I've blown it with cute women because my game was off.

I have bitterness too and I try my best to bury it. But one thing is for sure, the bitterness can actually help my game because it sorta keeps me detached a bit and not really caring too much about what happens in the end. This detachment definitely works in my favor.

You're so young. Sucks to be divorced already, but you have a ton of great years ahead of you.

 

[floydb25]

One thing to remember is that, if you have a massive crush on someone - chances are, others do too. And that inevitably results in the girl being everything you listed. It's just the way it works. Not many "hot" girls are going to chase and wear their heart on a sleeve or even give a **** - because they don't have to. They'll lure everyone else in with their fake charm and flirting, instead... like the players they are. It's all a game to them.

You have to be especially careful with hot girls... they usually run off ego and selfishness, and aren't good people. You can't be blinded by lust and infatuation, because they're used to that. So, by you presenting a challenge, not caring, and the other things you listed - it not only protects you, but attracts THEM. Win-win.

The game isn't easy, and not made for everyone. People expect too much while doing too little. There's a lot of fake, un-nice **** you have to do - because these girls are fake, un-nice people. It's what they respond to. Like attracts like. Most of them are NOT LTR material, and WON'T stick around for long, but WILL play games and try to use / play you. Gotta deal and adapt, or chase different kind of women.

 

[VikingKing]

Idk man. Ive been a woman hater since I was like 13. my sister was a **** bag my entire life, and I think that **** set somthing to my brain. Instead of giving up use it to your advantage.

Don't hate them because you love them, love them because you hate them. All women have the potential to be *****es. The thing is is you care to much, this is common. This is why ss exists. we all got ****ed over at some point, some people several times. Learn to not take **** personally, even if the words or actions are personal. Only you are in charge of your mind.

 

[VikingKing]

Oh and dude look at it this way. Would you be mad at a fish for swimming? No, because thats what a fvcking fish does, its swims. Acceptance man. You will be alright.

 

[Trump]

Just, that's it for me. I can't deal with them anymore.

Just finished a divorce (my doing).

A girl I have had a massive crush on for ages used my vulnerability to reel me in to a game of electronic flirting which suggested it was going somewhere, and then took me round in circles. Total b1tch, exploiting me for entertainment.

My next one, met recently, laid 2 times, now flakes and doesn't have the balls to just cut it off, just goes quiet.

I have just come to the conclusion that you either have it or you don't, I can't get women to chase no matter what I do, and the older I get, the less I want to do with them.

I try hard to not get bitter about it but I just get p1ssed off with the way they are, they have no heart, no soul, and some people like me just aren't hardwired and made to be anything more than entertainment and a source of security for them.

I think you just either have it or you don't, fvck game, fvck them all. I am just going to be single and bang the occasional hooker.

I don't understand posts like this.

Are girls supposed have sex with you at your whim, in any position, and as many times as you want? That's like telling the other team only pitch fastballs so I can hit homers.

Who hasn't been laughed at, insulted, put down, red faced, done stupid things. Come on bro, times have changed girls don't care about your feelings and emotions, they care about money and sex. If you had good job set up for that girl you laid twice, you think she would leave, she would kiss your hand and f you better. And you think girls are making your head spin, other people in your life laugh at you too, they just are more subtle about it.

Just don't get emotional. Only care if its about your name or money, everything else is gravy.

 

[PlayHer Man]

One thing to remember is that, if you have a massive crush on someone - chances are, others do too. And that inevitably results in the girl being everything you listed. It's just the way it works. Not many "hot" girls are going to chase and wear their heart on a sleeve or even give a **** - because they don't have to. They'll lure everyone else in with their fake charm and flirting, instead... like the players they are. It's all a game to them.

You have to be especially careful with hot girls... they usually run off ego and selfishness, and aren't good people. You can't be blinded by lust and infatuation, because they're used to that. So, by you presenting a challenge, not caring, and the other things you listed - it not only protects you, but attracts THEM. Win-win.

The game isn't easy, and not made for everyone. People expect too much while doing too little. There's a lot of fake, un-nice **** you have to do - because these girls are fake, un-nice people. It's what they respond to. Like attracts like. Most of them are NOT LTR material, and WON'T stick around for long, but WILL play games and try to use / play you. Gotta deal and adapt, or chase different kind of women.

Agree 100%.

As a man who wants to bang the hotties.. you have to spin plates and make your goal with them SEX. Don't chase a relationship and don't try to bond with them. I repeat:

DON'T TRY TO BOND WITH THEM.

Trying to bond with hot girls is almost impossible unless they are fresh out of high school. They get so much male attention that they're indifferent and immune to basic kindness. The only thing that gets their attention is pain. Being ignored, flaked on, disrespected, stood up, cheated on, etc. So this is what you have to do in most cases. At least if you want to date/bang the hotties.

If you don't have it in you to be a douche bag then you either have to date fatties or accept your position as beta orbiter / last chance husband (the man ex-wh0res marry after riding the c0ck carousel)

 

[floydb25]

Agree 100%.

As a man who wants to bang the hotties.. you have to spin plates and make your goal with them SEX. Don't chase a relationship and don't try to bond with them. I repeat:

DON'T TRY TO BOND WITH THEM.

Trying to bond with hot girls is almost impossible unless they are fresh out of high school. They get so much male attention that they're indifferent and immune to basic kindness. The only thing that gets their attention is pain. Being ignored, flaked on, disrespected, stood up, cheated on, etc. So this is what you have to do in most cases. At least if you want to date/bang the hotties.

If you don't have it in you to be a douche bag then you either have to date fatties or accept your position as beta orbiter / last chance husband (the man ex-wh0res marry after riding the c0ck carousel)

I wouldn't classify it as pain per se, and you don't have to be a jerk (per se), although it does work all the same. These girls are on another level, because their lives revolve around the "game". And they definitely look for high class, in-demand player types (despite complaining about them constantly, and being the same way). They're all about the lust, excitement, drama, challenge, unpredictability, short-term infatuation, etc. Good qualities aren't important; they don't care about that. They're fake and shallow / superficial. Status and looks is high on their list.

I wouldn't go to the extreme of being a beta or dating fatties, though. There's plenty of decent, attractive, quality girls out there. You won't be having "massive crushes" on them, though. They won't be the hot, in-demand, provocative types.

Just gotta realize the difference between lust and quality, and plan accordingly.