I hate online dating

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so we sit down and we're about to watch netflix. And I see my recommended backbreaker picks and i'm looking at all these great movies / TV shows and I see one I really wanted to watch. the new Marco Polo series looks great. One of my friends told me the new season of american horror story was really good. I've never seen Californiation, i heard it's good. I've seen the first hunger games, and while it's a decent movie I can't watch the new hunger games movie until I've seen the 2nd one and evetually I'm gonna get around to watching both, is today the day? Wife wants to watch silver linings playbook which looks gay as hell but hey Jennifer Lawerence is kinda cute it could be worse? It's christmas time and I've never seen it's a wonderful live or miracle on 24th (whatever lol) street.

I've atched one eposide of the show Damages and I like it plus Rose Byrne is hot as balls so I mean that's a pretty **** up free way to spend my time right? **** I've never seen dexter.


so many choices!!! i dont' know what to do


so i do the exact same thing I always do, after 10 mins of browsing, I put it on the west wing and watch it for the 50th time. AT this point I basically pay 12 dollars a month to have unlimited access to watch the west wing.


Now compare that to when I actually go to the movie theater. Alot of times we will just show up and not really care what's playing. we'll watch it. if it sucks it sucks, if it's good it's good, but we went to the movies.


Even when you buy a movie at best buy, you're riding this baby home lol. You're going to watch the movie you've already invested in it. You spent 20 dollars on the movie and god dammit you're gonna watch it. You're going to even try to enjoy it.



It occursed to me that this is the problem I have with online dating. I'm sure this is not an original backbreaker idea in fact i know it's not, but still it hits home. In this way, when put in this light, I can very much sympthize with what women have to deal with when it comes to online dating. it's just too many choices and you are forced to make very irrational stupid decisions because you have all these options and you have to somehow narrow it down. You can't go out with everyone of them, on a very personal level a woman might not have a problem with a guy who is 5'8 (my height) but if you have 50 messages in your inbox and 10 of the guys are shorter than 5'10, welp bye. now i have 40.


This is why I really do not understand why men condone online dating. it turns a very real experience into something that is basically netflix for women. You have about the same amount of chance of getting that cute girl to date you as you have of me deciding to watch a particular movie from my recommended list on my account.



Even, if you got the date, which is hard enough, the fact that she knows she has dozens of other guys just a click away in her inbox, takes any remote posiiblity of frame that you can have out of the equation and now it's basically a job interview.. it's not even a job interview because a job implies that she's going to reward you with something lol, it's basically a plea of mercy. These are the women that hit the next button over the stupidist of issues.
 

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Ugh...I'm gonna cancel my match subsciption. The last 4 girls I was talking to on there emailed me first, then after 2-3 emails just disappeared. Too many time wasters and too many thirsty dudes giving them attention. Just getting a 5 or a 6 to meet up is nearly impossible. Waste of money at this point.
 

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The part you said about it being basically impossible to maintain frame with online dating is spot on. If you're meeting girls online, your frame is weak from the get go. Partly due to the fact that you were actually desperate enough to resort to online dating in the first place.

And as you said, with girls it's like choosing which movie to watch on netflix. With guys it's like trying to find a diamond in the rough or a needle in a haystack. It makes you feel like a chump the more time you put into it while getting basically nothing back.

Although it might not be what some people want to hear, the truth is you need experience picking up girls in person if you are ever going to consider yourself a true DJ. James Dean wouldn't need to use tinder because he has enough options already. Not to mention the more a girl is invested into online dating, the bigger a red flag it is for you to see her at all. You really wanna start screwin a girl who spends 6 hours a day on POF? Cuz I guarantee you're not the only one getting a piece of the pie.
 

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I've never tried online dating but it does sound like a raw deal for the men. Wouldn't it be great if someday men got so fed up with it tat there would be mostly women on there? And they had to pander to the guys to get them to sign up? Yeah, I know, dream on.
 

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Meisterman said:
The part you said about it being basically impossible to maintain frame with online dating is spot on. If you're meeting girls online, your frame is weak from the get go. Partly due to the fact that you were actually desperate enough to resort to online dating in the first place.

And as you said, with girls it's like choosing which movie to watch on netflix. With guys it's like trying to find a diamond in the rough or a needle in a haystack. It makes you feel like a chump the more time you put into it while getting basically nothing back.

Although it might not be what some people want to hear, the truth is you need experience picking up girls in person if you are ever going to consider yourself a true DJ. James Dean wouldn't need to use tinder because he has enough options already. Not to mention the more a girl is invested into online dating, the bigger a red flag it is for you to see her at all. You really wanna start screwin a girl who spends 6 hours a day on POF? Cuz I guarantee you're not the only one getting a piece of the pie.
I agree with you. Just my meeting a woman online you are already at a disadvantage just her knowing you had to resort to a ratings its to get *****. Even if you do have options she won't think that.
 

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GS750 said:
Ugh...I'm gonna cancel my match subsciption. The last 4 girls I was talking to on there emailed me first, then after 2-3 emails just disappeared. Too many time wasters and too many thirsty dudes giving them attention. Just getting a 5 or a 6 to meet up is nearly impossible. Waste of money at this point.

Online dating is not ideal IMO and is absolutely horrible for a man's long term self esteem but if you are going that route you need not only thick skin but to play the numbers game. 4 girls isn't ****.... I know guys who message 50 messages a day.
 

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Meisterman said:
The part you said about it being basically impossible to maintain frame with online dating is spot on. If you're meeting girls online, your frame is weak from the get go. Partly due to the fact that you were actually desperate enough to resort to online dating in the first place.

And as you said, with girls it's like choosing which movie to watch on netflix. With guys it's like trying to find a diamond in the rough or a needle in a haystack. It makes you feel like a chump the more time you put into it while getting basically nothing back.

Although it might not be what some people want to hear, the truth is you need experience picking up girls in person if you are ever going to consider yourself a true DJ. James Dean wouldn't need to use tinder because he has enough options already. Not to mention the more a girl is invested into online dating, the bigger a red flag it is for you to see her at all. You really wanna start screwin a girl who spends 6 hours a day on POF? Cuz I guarantee you're not the only one getting a piece of the pie.
Well said. I personally haven't tried online dating but I can't imagine how frustrating it would be....
 

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captain55 said:
Online dating is not ideal IMO and is absolutely horrible for a man's long term self esteem but if you are going that route you need not only thick skin but to play the numbers game. 4 girls isn't ****.... I know guys who message 50 messages a day.
Fvck that noise. I don't send out emails, ever. Stopped doing that a long time ago. Now I'm gonna just drop the online thing altogether for my own good.
 

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Cmon it isnt that bad.

There are certainly ups and downs with OLD, but ive had weeks where I dated five different women from online. And it was exhausting, girls dont want to do that either. Relax, have fun with it, and definitely do not use it as your only source for women.

How else can you set up a date with a girl youve never met on a phone app while at work! Its 2014, OLD is getting big. Copy and paste twenty messages and see what comes back, doesnt get much easier than that.
 

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I used to go out constantly with my wingmen at least once a week(most of the time twice) to sarge/have fun, you name it (mind you these guys are in there late 20's and I'm close to a decade older) Now a couple of them don't want to come out because "they're too tired" and use the excuse "I should try tinder, hinge, match, etc." They're not tired, they're just damn lazy....
 

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I have to say I disagree...at one point I went 20 straight first dates without a flake, and although recently I had issues with 2nd dates likely due to me not escalating enough when I got the chance, I still have 3 or 4 plates I rotate and bang on a regular basis.

I think it might be easier online...so many lame dudes sending nonsense, texting them nonstop, acting needy and desperate, etc...you stick out like a sore thumb when you do the opposite, in a good way
 

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And some people hate CD , Vinyls are so much better.

What's your point ? You aren't going change anything.

ADAPT and stop whining or ACCEPT your fate.
 

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Never liked the idea of on-line dating have never tried it. I do my best work selling in person. To me is seems like an un-manly thing to do, putting yourself out there like a internet pop up ad.

All women have screening criteria: Age, weight, height, looks, etc.... we do the same. But with women, it really is all about emotions, and you can change thier minds buy face to face selling.

I wing for my nephew on occasion, he's 24 I'm twice his age. We go to places I would normally have no interest in, and end up hitting on very young women because there is nothing else to do when I'm with him. I usually get "How old are you?" or some varient in the interaction. How you respond to that can flip her switch. But online... there it is "48 years old" it's just there, you'll never get a chance to sell... your're just screened out.
 

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I own a website development company it's been what.. 7 years now. When we first started, we had no portfolio so for a good 1-2 years, I resorted to getting projects off of craigslist. I lost money on 95% of the projects but we had to build a portfolio somehow.


craigslist is like the online dating version of finding projects. Does it work? Technically yes. We made revenue, if I didn't live in LA I could probably be making money on the projects albeit not much, but becuase every last person you deal with is an idiot you have to live on the computer and becuase there are 100 indian developers that are emailing clients every post who seemingly never ****ing sleep, you have to stay up and do the same. So what you end up with is a platform that takes up all your time for no money while dealing with bad clients


But in 2 years what I learned doing that is that people who seek out web deveopment services via craigslist do so for a reason; they are cheap and for whatever the reason no one else will deal with them. They've had "bad experiences" with reputable freelance sites like elance.com or guru.com (i.e they tried to screw someone over and elance.com shut them down) and now they are going to the wild west known as craigslist where there are no rules or governing bodies to look after them.


This is how I feel about online dating. If I were single could I make online dating work, technically yes I could I'm sure of it. If I can sale 2-3k projects on craigslist I promise you i can figure out how to get an hb6 on pof to go out to coffee with me. but it's not worht the effort, and there is no positive end game. Plus it takes too much time / effort.
 

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I hate online dating too! They always show pictures of beautiful women, but their all fat, ugly, wh@res when I do a search. Their false advertising!!!
 

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Betas keep logging on for the "chance" they will get laid. Lmao.

Think about how much return they are getting for the investment they put in. It's negative.

But the worst part is that 99% of the women are disgusting fat pigs.
 

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Not all of them. But even the ones who are a 5-6+ get so much email and have so many options its unreal. So taking it seriously is a waste of time.
 
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