I give up!

[donjuanapprentice01]

Honestly, I can't take this **** anymore. Today was the last straw for me. I thought FOR SURE the chick from the patio was showing strong signs of interest. Not just this chick, but all the rejections in the past, from girls who said yes and then ****ed me around, to the flakes, etc... Nah, **** this ****!

From now on, I'm going to assume no chick, no matter her IOI's, isn't interested. If she is genuinely interested in me, she can ASK ME OUT! I'm going to live my life BY MYSELF, not expecting anything!

That's it for me fellas, **** this GAME, games are for ****in KIDS and I'm not playing this ****ty game anymore.

 

[Kingpin]

I hear you!!!!!! I am so tired of these worthless women!!!! I get IOI's too and they always flake on me. My last straw was when this girl gave me her # last week and she didn't answer so I waited a day and she didn't answer so I called 10 more times and she told me she won't go out with me!

 

[Bonafide]

The thing is your playing the game wrong buddy :nono: ...don't get so caught up with all this IOI bs and all that crap, just let it flow...


or you can be AFC if you want ...your choice :cheer:

 

[donjuanapprentice01]

What pisses me off too man is that all these chicks have now gotten their ego boost out of us. The feel good about themselves, while I feel like a complete and utter idiot.

 

[GlennCoCo]

Good luck getting poon from now on and going out with mediocre chicks bud. :wave:

The game isn't for everyone, and you've been weeded out.

 

[SleepyRangerMedic82D]

That's your problem, you are approaching it as a game dude.. Just keep it real and be a confident guy.. The women will come.. You are trying way too hard

 

[marinetti]

Focus on your life and the women will come. Seriously. Spend 6 months pursuing your own interests, making yourself into the kind of guy that leads interactions instead of following, and the women will come.

I call it the 24/7 lifestyle - which doesn't mean partying all the time, but building a successful career, turning yourself into the leader of all social groups and interactions, and then inviting women to come follow you.

These are the kinds of men that women want to be with. And by making yourself into a man like this (like I've been doing for the past year) brings infinitely more success than looking for IOIs and the like.

 

[Igetit!]

Honestly, I can't take this **** anymore. Today was the last straw for me. I thought FOR SURE the chick from the patio was showing strong signs of interest. Not just this chick, but all the rejections in the past, from girls who said yes and then ****ed me around, to the flakes, etc... Nah, **** this ****!

From now on, I'm going to assume no chick, no matter her IOI's, isn't interested. If she is genuinely interested in me, she can ASK ME OUT! I'm going to live my life BY MYSELF, not expecting anything!

That's it for me fellas, **** this GAME, games are for ****in KIDS and I'm not playing this ****ty game anymore.

Ha,Ha,Ha.

If I didn't know better,I'd say you seem a bit erked,a bit angry,if you will.

So what's wrong? Did you go out and fall on your face a few times?

Why do you think this forum is here? If you already had this thing all figured out,you wouldn't need to be a member here.

Let me guess: You're upset over the situation that happened in your other thread,the one where you said you'd "blown your chances" with a certain girl.

I read that thread. The outcome was predictable. I've been through that scenario you described a thousand times. You said it was over when she told you she had a boyfriend,but really,it was over looong before then.

You just didn't realize it.

If you seriously,SERIOUSLY want to get better at this "dating thing",you'll need to give us an account of how you normally approach a girl.

Don't sugarcoat it,don't alter it or change it in any way.

Tell us...

How you approach a girl.

What you generally say when you approach her.

How women generally respond to you.

When do problems start to show up when you interact with a girl? Is it during the approach,after you approach but before the first date,or after the first date has already happened?

The problem with the girl in your last thread was as clear to me as the sun shining in the sky...FEAR.

You said it yourself: You kept putting off,procrastinating,and delaying asking her for her number or asking her out. You said you didn't know why you kept doing it,but I knew why.

It's because you were scared. Scared of getting turned down. Afraid of rejection.

Listen dude: WOMEN ARE EMOTIONAL. They FEEL. If you are feeling and experiencing an emotion while your talking to a woman and in her presense,she'll "sense/feel" the emotion you're giving off.

Even though you were repeatedly in this girl's presense,you didn't ask her out because of fear,and obviuosly,she "sensed" your hesitation. So when she felt your nervousness/fear,it made her feel uncomfortable.

When this happens,she CAN'T FEEL ATTRACTION for you.

You know why?

Because instead of her relaxing and enjoying the feelings/attraction you should have been generating in her,she was too busy trying NOT TO HURT your feelings.

If you approach a girl all nervous and scared and about to wet your pants,YOU put her under pressure. She FEELS like she has to say yes because if she doesn't,it'll break your poor little heart.

Women don't want that. They want to say yes because they like you and are attracted to you,not because if they don't it'll destroy you.

They don't want to feel responsible for you feeling bad if they're not interested.

Like I said,if you want to start to turn this thing around,answer the questions I asked...HONESTLY,ACCURATELY.

Plus,if there's anything else you think might be helpful for us to know,share it as well.

 

[Johnny_Kage]

Honestly, I can't take this **** anymore. Today was the last straw for me. I thought FOR SURE the chick from the patio was showing strong signs of interest. Not just this chick, but all the rejections in the past, from girls who said yes and then ****ed me around, to the flakes, etc... Nah, **** this ****!

From now on, I'm going to assume no chick, no matter her IOI's, isn't interested. If she is genuinely interested in me, she can ASK ME OUT! I'm going to live my life BY MYSELF, not expecting anything!

That's it for me fellas, **** this GAME, games are for ****in KIDS and I'm not playing this ****ty game anymore.

EVERYTHING WILL BE OKAY!

I promise

 

[playaslaya]

Honestly, I can't take this **** anymore. Today was the last straw for me. I thought FOR SURE the chick from the patio was showing strong signs of interest. Not just this chick, but all the rejections in the past, from girls who said yes and then ****ed me around, to the flakes, etc... Nah, **** this ****!

From now on, I'm going to assume no chick, no matter her IOI's, isn't interested. If she is genuinely interested in me, she can ASK ME OUT! I'm going to live my life BY MYSELF, not expecting anything!

That's it for me fellas, **** this GAME, games are for ****in KIDS and I'm not playing this ****ty game anymore.

just take it easy man...just keep planting seeds and eventually some will grow...ur taking this **** way too seriously...relax a bit

 

[FunnyMan]

if anything this should motivate you more

think about it this way, when you hit rock bottom, the only way you can go from here is up

sometimes, i like it when ****ty stuff happens because i know that next thing is going to be that much more awesome

 

[gonnamakeachange]

I felt this way before. It's often said to relax and things will come naturally. That's really BS. I mean you do have to have a life besides chasing girls, but you're not getting any younger. While the guys telling you to relax are getting their d1ck sucked, you are once again home masturbating.

 

[scrouds]

I hear you!!!!!! I am so tired of these worthless women!!!! I get IOI's too and they always flake on me. My last straw was when this girl gave me her # last week and she didn't answer so I waited a day and she didn't answer so I called 10 more times and she told me she won't go out with me!

DUDE I don't know about you, but last time that happened to me I had to call 37 FVCKING TIMES!!!!!!!!!! she never picked up the phone, all I heard from was the police telling me to stop harassing hre. WTF!

 

[Cinamon]

You were intense and it scared her of by the sounds of it. Women are becoming a lot more relaxed about relationships.... dating, and as much as u would be put off by being chased so consistently in a small period of time, i think the same has happened to her.

 

[Mike32ct]

How old are the women you're pursuing? You might be better off with a slightly older chick. The younger they are, the more they flake.

If it makes you feel better, I can't remember the last time I've gone on a first date and she returned my calls afterward. The last 10 or 12 blew me off after the first meeting. I'm at the point where I expect to never hear from them or be able to reach them again.

 

[drak_ool]

awesome! one less guy to compete with out there!

no, but seriously dude, are you dedicating the rest of your life to porn sites and your right hand? Or maybe you ve already invested in a flesh-light? I guess, you re right, then, you don't need these s.hitty women! I also hear they make some pretty realistic sex dolls nowadays, really no need for the real thing anymore...

 

[Commandante]

Focus on your life and the women will come. Seriously. Spend 6 months pursuing your own interests, making yourself into the kind of guy that leads interactions instead of following, and the women will come.

You are so fvckin´ right! You summarized the most important rule: Go out and at first get a fvckin´ life! Not a one-night stand, not a GF, a fvckin´ life! If you start "chasing" girls without having a good life, the rejections you collect - and you will - will kill your self-confidence. And you will end up like the guy started this thread.

I call it the 24/7 lifestyle - which doesn't mean partying all the time,

Exactly! If you want to have fun, go out and have fun! If you have the best day of your life because you did well at school/work/whatever put your best clothes on and show the world that you fvck them all in the a$$ at school/work/whatever and everybody is invited to join you for the rest of this great day. With only one purpose: having fun. And the chicks will come.

And you don´have to do it every day. If you have a great day twice a week, then go out twice a week. Use the rest of the week to work on your own life.

 

[Kal0051]

Honestly, I can't take this **** anymore. Today was the last straw for me. I thought FOR SURE the chick from the patio was showing strong signs of interest. Not just this chick, but all the rejections in the past, from girls who said yes and then ****ed me around, to the flakes, etc... Nah, **** this ****!

From now on, I'm going to assume no chick, no matter her IOI's, isn't interested. If she is genuinely interested in me, she can ASK ME OUT! I'm going to live my life BY MYSELF, not expecting anything!

That's it for me fellas, **** this GAME, games are for ****in KIDS and I'm not playing this ****ty game anymore.

not to be a d1ck here but if your gonna wait for a woman to ask you out then your never gonna go on another date again. For the most part a woman will never directly ask out a guy, they just show interest hoping the guy gets the message and makes that first move. But a lot of girls will also fake interest for their own ****ed up attention ***** reasons (sounds like this is the type of woman you interact with).

 

[HardTimes]

Focus on your life and the women will come. Seriously. Spend 6 months pursuing your own interests, making yourself into the kind of guy that leads interactions instead of following, and the women will come.

I call it the 24/7 lifestyle - which doesn't mean partying all the time, but building a successful career, turning yourself into the leader of all social groups and interactions, and then inviting women to come follow you.

Calling bullshyt on this. I have been pursuing my own interests and career for the better party of a year, in addition to trying to pick up women, and the women have not come flocking to me.

The --only-- time I can even meet women is if I actually go out and attempt pickup for the night. I never --ever-- get passive interests from women both in the day or night. Women don't talk to me or even look in my direction unless I specifically walk up to them and talk to them first.

 

[donjuanapprentice01]

Ha,Ha,Ha.

If I didn't know better,I'd say you seem a bit erked,a bit angry,if you will.

So what's wrong? Did you go out and fall on your face a few times?

Why do you think this forum is here? If you already had this thing all figured out,you wouldn't need to be a member here.

Let me guess: You're upset over the situation that happened in your other thread,the one where you said you'd "blown your chances" with a certain girl.

I read that thread. The outcome was predictable. I've been through that scenario you described a thousand times. You said it was over when she told you she had a boyfriend,but really,it was over looong before then.

You just didn't realize it.

If you seriously,SERIOUSLY want to get better at this "dating thing",you'll need to give us an account of how you normally approach a girl.

Don't sugarcoat it,don't alter it or change it in any way.

Tell us...

How you approach a girl.

What you generally say when you approach her.

How women generally respond to you.

When do problems start to show up when you interact with a girl? Is it during the approach,after you approach but before the first date,or after the first date has already happened?

The problem with the girl in your last thread was as clear to me as the sun shining in the sky...FEAR.

You said it yourself: You kept putting off,procrastinating,and delaying asking her for her number or asking her out. You said you didn't know why you kept doing it,but I knew why.

It's because you were scared. Scared of getting turned down. Afraid of rejection.

Listen dude: WOMEN ARE EMOTIONAL. They FEEL. If you are feeling and experiencing an emotion while your talking to a woman and in her presense,she'll "sense/feel" the emotion you're giving off.

Even though you were repeatedly in this girl's presense,you didn't ask her out because of fear,and obviuosly,she "sensed" your hesitation. So when she felt your nervousness/fear,it made her feel uncomfortable.

When this happens,she CAN'T FEEL ATTRACTION for you.

You know why?

Because instead of her relaxing and enjoying the feelings/attraction you should have been generating in her,she was too busy trying NOT TO HURT your feelings.

If you approach a girl all nervous and scared and about to wet your pants,YOU put her under pressure. She FEELS like she has to say yes because if she doesn't,it'll break your poor little heart.

Women don't want that. They want to say yes because they like you and are attracted to you,not because if they don't it'll destroy you.

They don't want to feel responsible for you feeling bad if they're not interested.

Like I said,if you want to start to turn this thing around,answer the questions I asked...HONESTLY,ACCURATELY.

Plus,if there's anything else you think might be helpful for us to know,share it as well.

I have to admit man, your post was like a hammer to my head. You nailed my problem right on brother. I'll be honest, I didn't feel comfortable when I asked that girl out yesterday, I was tense and nervous..... yep, thats FEAR. I still have FEAR in me.

To answer your question as to how I approach, well I don't really approach. The way I got to talking with that one girl is because she came up to me at the bar one night and we started talking. Normally, I'll go out, sit at the bar, make small talk with the bartender and wait for the bar traffic to come by. I observe closely. I look to see if the girl is "approachable". If I feel she is, then I start talking to her. The good news is once I start talking I'm ok, and I loosen up... until it comes time to ask for the number, or to isolate her. Then, I get nervous again and fail to make my move, or if I do make the move, I'm usually tense and nervous.

I also had a revelation when I woke up this morning.. You nailed it on the head about women being emotional and that the FEEL. My convos with girls have probably not triggered any emotional reactions in girls, hence why they don't follow through, or reject me. The fact is, when I talk to a girl, often times I run out of things to say. One exception though is that bank teller I had posted about a while, we share so many things in common, and it was easy to ask her out because it just felt natural at the time. But with that case, I had built a rapport over the space of a couple months, so it came naturally.

But, thanks for that post man, I needed to see it in black and white, and it really hit me hard. You summed up exactly where I went wrong, and what my problem is.