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I find OLD weird and unnatural

Swagman

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Hey guys,

So after an LTR that started before OLD was a thing and ended last year, I've been giving the apps a go. I have no problem getting matches but I'm finding the outcomes are pretty predictable:

- The girl winds up being a complete bore and I'm not interested
- We get along, I suggest meeting and suddenly she vanishes
- We chat for a bit, nothing comes of it and we both move on

I do have some some irl options atm, one of them came from an app in fact but I can't help but think this is just a whole lot of messing about for very little payoff. There's so much that goes into attraction in person and I genuinely believe most of it is ephemeral, pheromone type stuff, dating apps to me feel completely at odds with this.

Wondering how you're all doing out there, I'm completely new to this so maybe I'm just adjusting to the way the game is played now.
 

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Dating apps are supplementary at best. I suggest having them and expecting nothing, while being occasionally pleasantly surprised.

My current most consistent FWB and a few other less consistent ones came from dating apps. So here's what I'd suggest:

1. Keep the conversation short and ask for the number early to set up a date
2. Depending on what your goals are, I suggest a drink date at night on a weekend
3. Confirm the date the same day/day before
4. Show up and look presentable
5. Have fun and escalate throughout the night
6. Ideally, have a place to go so you can f*** (if that's your goal)

There's really not much to it, it's just a luck of the draw with who's on the other side of the screen. All you really have to do is not be weird - there are a LOT of weird guys who have no idea what to say or how to act (just read nismo's formerly pinned post).

Let me know if you have any other questions.
 

CornbreadFed

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Dating apps are super competitive and your typical average male will not have much success on there. You are going to have to figure out something to make you stand out positively from the pool of thirsty men and high value men cleaning up on there.
 

Swagman

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Dating apps are supplementary at best. I suggest having them and expecting nothing, while being occasionally pleasantly surprised.

My current most consistent FWB and a few other less consistent ones came from dating apps. So here's what I'd suggest:

1. Keep the conversation short and ask for the number early to set up a date
2. Depending on what your goals are, I suggest a drink date at night on a weekend
3. Confirm the date the same day/day before
4. Show up and look presentable
5. Have fun and escalate throughout the night
6. Ideally, have a place to go so you can f*** (if that's your goal)

There's really not much to it, it's just a luck of the draw with who's on the other side of the screen. All you really have to do is not be weird - there are a LOT of weird guys who have no idea what to say or how to act (just read nismo's formerly pinned post).

Let me know if you have any other questions.
Thank you bro, this is really good stuff.
 

Gamisch

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"- We get along, I suggest meeting and suddenly she vanishes"

Don't ever take this personal. Don't forget you're dealing with a WOMAN. They're lead by their whims.

OLD is the new natural. Even though there's a clear financial incentive behind it, that's with everything nowadays. Every aspect of life is monetized. From the doctor to love to politics and the entertainment you consume: its all about money. So from that pov OLD is actually quite natural...there are now entire generations of grown people who mightve never met partners via other ways...
 

BillyPilgrim

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Need to be a stimulating conversationalist with an escalation structure built into the conversation, OP. A cunning linguist gets the cunnilingus.

Use the same or similar lines (once you know what your best lines are to hook them or suss out their intent) on women when applicable to have an effective feedback mechanism. DTF and highly interested women will respond to the "money lines" in a way that lukewarm and mildly interested women won't.
 
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