I don't have any success with online dating

[flipflip]

I don't have any success with online dating or social media. I've only done 2 cold approaches and one led to a date. I'd much rather approach women in person but women are almost never alone in public. 95% of the time they're with at least one friend it seems. If I could find a place where they are by themselves I could approach confidently all the time. When they're with a friend I feel like they're less receptive to a guy approaching them. The best place I've found so far to find single women is the park but it's like 20 degrees outside where I live rn.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

What's the difference with approaching them one on one or in a group?

Why are you confident doing it one way and not the other?

If they are always in groups, wouldn't common sense tell you that you should practice approaching when in groups?

Just thoughts I am putting out there for you to contemplate.

 

[flipflip]

What's the difference with approaching them one on one or in a group?

Why are you confident doing it one way and not the other?

If they are always in groups, wouldn't common sense tell you that you should practice approaching when in groups?

Just thoughts I am putting out there for you to contemplate.

I feel like they would be less receptive to a guy trying to talk to them when they're with their friends

 

[jimwho]

What's the difference with approaching them one on one or in a group?

Sometimes its like trying to flirt threw defensive lineman. C- blockers.

 

[biggoal]

I don't have any success with online dating or social media. I've only done 2 cold approaches and one led to a date. I'd much rather approach women in person but women are almost never alone in public. 95% of the time they're with at least one friend it seems. If I could find a place where they are by themselves I could approach confidently all the time. When they're with a friend I feel like they're less receptive to a guy approaching them. The best place I've found so far to find single women is the park but it's like 20 degrees outside where I live rn.

In person is still better than OLD in most areas. On OLD it seems if you put more effort into you messages not just "hi" it works a bit better but very time consuming. My business is busy right now and I don't simply have time to write out well thought messages, just cut and paste form messages and hope for the best.

OLD is very time consuming when you think of it.

 

[flipflip]

Sometimes its like trying to flirt threw defensive lineman. C- blockers.

Exactly lol. I wish I knew some good places to find women by themselves

 

[Dr.Suave]

I became lazy with cold approach over the years and recently had succes with OLD. Keep cold approaching, dont let her freinds stop you. Good luck.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I don't have any success with online dating or social media. I've only done 2 cold approaches and one led to a date. I'd much rather approach women in person but women are almost never alone in public. 95% of the time they're with at least one friend it seems. If I could find a place where they are by themselves I could approach confidently all the time. When they're with a friend I feel like they're less receptive to a guy approaching them. The best place I've found so far to find single women is the park but it's like 20 degrees outside where I live rn.

When you say ‘no success’ do you mean no matches. No dates from OLD or no sex from OLD…?

 

[Zimbabwe]

Have you tried Bars and Clubs?

 

[AureliusMaximus]

I don't have any success with online dating or social media. I've only done 2 cold approaches and one led to a date. I'd much rather approach women in person but women are almost never alone in public. 95% of the time they're with at least one friend it seems. If I could find a place where they are by themselves I could approach confidently all the time. When they're with a friend I feel like they're less receptive to a guy approaching them. The best place I've found so far to find single women is the park but it's like 20 degrees outside where I live rn.

Because there one billion other dudes from all over the world there PM that same girl.
Go offline dude. Much less competition.

 

[Striker_93]

Well, you only have 2 options, cold Approaching or OLD, so your just gonna have to make a choice......stop making excuses and find what works for you.

 

[corrector]

I've only done 2 cold approaches and one led to a date.

Wow. Do another 2.

 

[SW15]

Well, you only have 2 options, cold Approaching or OLD, so your just gonna have to make a choice......stop making excuses and find what works for you.

Social circle is always an option but I doubt most men on SoSuave have a social circle capable of getting them dates, getting them laid, and getting extended relationships. Social circles can often take years to build.

If I could find a place where they are by themselves I could approach confidently all the time. When they're with a friend I feel like they're less receptive to a guy approaching them. The best place I've found so far to find single women is the park but it's like 20 degrees outside where I live rn.

I have not had any problems with this. Grocery stores are common places to find women alone, but there's been too much masking lately. I've been able to find women alone in the mall and in book stores.

Outdoor approaching is the still the way to go for the forseeable. Parks, walking paths, and hiking paths will all have women.

 

[Zimbabwe]

For women, online dating is like prep for working in HR. Glorified resume sorters, who have so many applicants that they start filtering on the most ridiculous qualifications. "His shoes had blue laces in this picture and I'm not a fan of blue laces". It's okay though, these women will be 42 and single and crying about it someday or in a super toxic relationship.

Don't be their jester, Don't be their pen pal, Don't chase, only spend time on girls that show active interest and invest in you.

If they seem lukewarm it's guaranteed they will waste your time due to having so many other thirsty dudes chasing them and them thinking they have more options than they actually do. When it comes to online dating you only want to pursue women that show a high interest level to avoid wasting time and money.

an attractive woman in their 30s to early 40s that can't find a partner or maintain a long-term relationship is a red flag.

It's like a person that has every streaming app out there and every show available and yet says there's nothing good to watch. Only ever watches the first episode, goes meh, moves on to the next show and misses out on all the great shows out there that get better with time. All the options in the world yet can't find something good, yeah, red flag.

For some reason women seem to think matches are marriage commitments, get their egos all gassed up, and as a result don't actually invest in getting to know anyone, and are perpetually single with lots of dates or very short-term relationships and forever on the apps.

 

[SW15]

For women, online dating is like prep for working in HR. Glorified resume sorters, who have so many applicants that they start filtering on the most ridiculous qualifications. "His shoes had blue laces in this picture and I'm not a fan of blue laces".

It's interesting that you mention HR because HR is a common occupational pursuit for women. The goal of HR is not to hire you, it is to get rid of you. HR screens out. When you deal with women on apps, their goal is to get rid of you and not make you their boyfriend.

Job searching has gotten worse since applications for jobs moved online around the late 1990s/early 2000s. I graduated college in the 2004-05 school year, so late 2004/early 2005 was when I first started getting into job applications. Before the late 1990s, people had to go to employers and fill out paper applications. That required some ambition, kind of like cold approaching does.

Ever since online applications for jobs became a thing, every position (especially white collar) has gotten more applicants. Even since dating websites and swipe apps became a thing, each vagina has gotten more inquiries for pounding it.

Both employers and single females on websites/apps filter on the most ridiculous qualifications.

I've learned to treat job searching a bit like seduction. If I have to do an HR interview with some young woman, I'll act more like a seducer.

Job searching is more effective when you go straight to the source, the hiring manager for that position. Seducing is more effective when you go make the direct approach of the woman in-person.

It's okay though, these women will be 42 and single and crying about it someday or in a super toxic relationship.

The 2020s is going to see much more of this. Gen X women stayed single later into life but eventually were reasonable enough to settle. The Millennials born in the 1980s were the participation trophy generation. Millennials are snowflakes who want their trophies. A Millennial white woman born in the 1980s and raised in the 1990s from a middle class background or higher isn't going to settle. She'd rather be 42 with cats and dogs than settle. She was raised post second wave feminism and feminists have been preaching "Never Settle!" to women for decades. Millennial women drank the Kool-Aid more than predecessor generation.

Enjoy the Decline! Thanks Clarey & @DEEZEDBRAH.

 

[biggoal]

It's interesting that you mention HR because HR is a common occupational pursuit for women. The goal of HR is not to hire you, it is to get rid of you. HR screens out. When you deal with women on apps, their goal is to get rid of you and not make you their boyfriend.

Job searching has gotten worse since applications for jobs moved online around the late 1990s/early 2000s. I graduated college in the 2004-05 school year, so late 2004/early 2005 was when I first started getting into job applications. Before the late 1990s, people had to go to employers and fill out paper applications. That required some ambition, kind of like cold approaching does.

Ever since online applications for jobs became a thing, every position (especially white collar) has gotten more applicants. Even since dating websites and swipe apps became a thing, each vagina has gotten more inquiries for pounding it.

Both employers and single females on websites/apps filter on the most ridiculous qualifications.

I've learned to treat job searching a bit like seduction. If I have to do an HR interview with some young woman, I'll act more like a seducer.

Job searching is more effective when you go straight to the source, the hiring manager for that position. Seducing is more effective when you go make the direct approach of the woman in-person.



The 2020s is going to see much more of this. Gen X women stayed single later into life but eventually were reasonable enough to settle. The Millennials born in the 1980s were the participation trophy generation. Millennials are snowflakes who want their trophies. A Millennial white woman born in the 1980s and raised in the 1990s from a middle class background or higher isn't going to settle. She'd rather be 42 with cats and dogs than settle. She was raised post second wave feminism and feminists have been preaching "Never Settle!" to women for decades. Millennial women drank the Kool-Aid more than predecessor generation.

Enjoy the Decline! Thanks Clarey & @DEEZEDBRAH.

I agree! When you had to do paper applications or at least email a resume for a job it was much easier to apply and get an interview!

Now when you apply for a job you have a computer program doing automatic filtering too! Some look for certain keywords as well. The hiring manager might not ever see your application.

And these online applications sometimes can take nearly TWO hours to complete for ONE job which chances are won't even contact you anyway.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I feel like they would be less receptive to a guy trying to talk to them when they're with their friends

So you've already created how it would play out in your own mind before even attempting it?

It's a common issue, basically it's a way your brain tries to convince you not to do something out of your comfort zone. It comes up with reasons and plays out scenarios in your mind coming up with how it would go instead of you finding out for yourself.

 

[MatureDJ]

I don't have any success with online dating or social media. I've only done 2 cold approaches and one led to a date. I'd much rather approach women in person but women are almost never alone in public. 95% of the time they're with at least one friend it seems. If I could find a place where they are by themselves I could approach confidently all the time. When they're with a friend I feel like they're less receptive to a guy approaching them. The best place I've found so far to find single women is the park but it's like 20 degrees outside where I live rn.

it won't be that cold all year long.

 

[MatureDJ]

It's interesting that you mention HR because HR is a common occupational pursuit for women. The goal of HR is not to hire you, it is to get rid of you. HR screens out. When you deal with women on apps, their goal is to get rid of you and not make you their boyfriend.

Job searching has gotten worse since applications for jobs moved online around the late 1990s/early 2000s. I graduated college in the 2004-05 school year, so late 2004/early 2005 was when I first started getting into job applications. Before the late 1990s, people had to go to employers and fill out paper applications. That required some ambition, kind of like cold approaching does.

Ever since online applications for jobs became a thing, every position (especially white collar) has gotten more applicants. Even since dating websites and swipe apps became a thing, each vagina has gotten more inquiries for pounding it.

Both employers and single females on websites/apps filter on the most ridiculous qualifications.

A very good connection of the pickiness of employers and chicks. Before I had thrown in the towel on work, I was having a lower acceptance rate of getting an interview than my current rate with American Tinderettes. A key difference is that JBW Theory does not apply to jobs, especially for programmers.

Enjoy the Decline! Thanks Clarey & @DEEZEDBRAH.

Aaron is a great cynical philosopher.

 

[biggoal]

I don't think it's your fault. again, as I and many others in other threads said OLD has gone way down, especially since Covid with more women being plump now and a lot less to choose from.

Later I'll post pics of women I've matched with, chatted, or went on dates with from OLD before and up to when Covid hit.