How to start doing better with the more popular and trendy girls? Even possible?

[SomethingDifferent]

SoSuave,

I have done well with women of all races and nationalities but something I have noticed is that most of the American women I have been with were kind of in the hipster, artsy, goth, emo, and alternative scenes if you catch my drift. It's like I can easily get the hbb with hipster glasses at an art museum who is visiting but I can't get the hbb who likes to be at bars and clubs. It even goes back to my college days to where I could get the girls in the arts departments or the cute but geeky science major girl who has career ambitions but I couldn't quite get the sorority girls or the girls found in the party scene who spent their spring breaks in Cancun.

I've always had an issue getting those kinds of girls and I looked more into it. So far I noticed a few things about why I might not be doing well with those girls:

- I am more shredded/cut rather than being jacked and these girls go for guys built like Captain America which brings me to my next point.

- These girls go more for the Chris Evans lookalike, the All American kind of preppy frat boy while I have more of the "exotic" look and look more latin lover type.

So how can I have more success with this demographic?

 

[Çharismo]

If your shredded than get jacked as well...it will only help.

There could be many factors that determine why you are pulling only a specific type of chick so don't be quick to make assumptions.

Have you actually tried talking to chicks in a sorority?! They usually tend to stay in a clique.

If these are attractive women than they are looking for an attractive counter-part which means that you might not be up to there standards look wise. (Just a theory)

You might look nerdy or geeky yourself. (No offense)

It could be your style as well and the type of clothes you wear or accessories.

Don't jump to conclusions.

 

[foreverAFC]

let me guess, you are indian

 

[SomethingDifferent]

let me guess, you are indian

No but I do get mistaken for it sometimes.

I am past college age so it's not really sorority girls I am going after, as I said, that was back in college. I am talking about more of the hot and popular girls right now, the sorority girl thing was just an example since in college those are the popular and trendy girls. The girls you see at clubs and high end bars as opposed to the girls you see at cafes who prefer to stay away from that party lifestyle. To be more direct about it, bar and club girl types like this.

http://www.disco-designer.com/newsite/wp-content/gallery/usa_3/club-girls.jpg

http://www.freevegasclubpasses.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/4_hot_club_girls.jpg

http://vegas.img.napkinnights.com/pics/albums/vegas/022009jetnightclub/1001.jpg

 

[SomethingDifferent]

If your shredded than get jacked as well...it will only help.

There could be many factors that determine why you are pulling only a specific type of chick so don't be quick to make assumptions.

Have you actually tried talking to chicks in a sorority?! They usually tend to stay in a clique.

If these are attractive women than they are looking for an attractive counter-part which means that you might not be up to there standards look wise. (Just a theory)

You might look nerdy or geeky yourself. (No offense)

It could be your style as well and the type of clothes you wear or accessories.

Don't jump to conclusions.

Well I am past college age so it's not really sorority girls I am going after, as I said, that was back in college. I am talking about more of the hot and popular girls right now, the sorority girl thing was just an example since in college those are the popular and trendy girls. The girls you see at clubs and high end bars wearing those fancy dresses as opposed to the girls you see at cafes who prefer to stay away from that party lifestyle. To be more direct about it, bar and club girl types like this.

http://www.disco-designer.com/newsite/wp-content/gallery/usa_3/club-girls.jpg

http://www.freevegasclubpasses.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/4_hot_club_girls.jpg

http://vegas.img.napkinnights.com/pics/albums/vegas/022009jetnightclub/1001.jpg

 

[skinnyguy]

The stock advice on here would be to go for fat girls and forget about the hot ones.

The girls in the first pic are totally my type. You have good taste my friend.

 

[Skyline]

No but I do get mistaken for it sometimes.

I am past college age so it's not really sorority girls I am going after, as I said, that was back in college. I am talking about more of the hot and popular girls right now, the sorority girl thing was just an example since in college those are the popular and trendy girls. The girls you see at clubs and high end bars as opposed to the girls you see at cafes who prefer to stay away from that party lifestyle. To be more direct about it, bar and club girl types like this.

http://www.disco-designer.com/newsite/wp-content/gallery/usa_3/club-girls.jpg

http://www.freevegasclubpasses.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/4_hot_club_girls.jpg

http://vegas.img.napkinnights.com/pics/albums/vegas/022009jetnightclub/1001.jpg

Oh god... Those girls look gross! I think the only girl that lookes decently attractive was the one in the first picture who had her eyes closed, that says a lot about the rest... I would take a genuine cute girl over those clowns anyday!

If you're attracting cute girls often then you yourself are considered to be cute. Is that a bad thing? Of course not. This means that you're basically universally attractive. Which means the only thing stopping you from getting these sorority type girls is you. Even though hot girls will generally eye the hot guys first, this does not mean the cute guys(or average slightly above average etc..) Don't have a shot. We attract a lot of people, the people who are in the same department in regards to looks will be easier to find and notice than the ones that aren't. But really, you're actually playing ball correctly in my opinion. You're going after the girls that are going to find you attractive instead of going from 0-100 and expecting you to get 100 all the time.

At this point in the game for you, your confidence and not going up to them and talking to them is holding you back. This is why its important to know people, like a social circle, so you can have easier access to all kinds of women and opportunitys. If some one knows someone, its only a matter of time before you meet them and let the cycle continue. Of course you have to put time into making friends and meeting people.

 

[SomethingDifferent]

I find those kind of girls and the ones I see at the clubs with the makeup on to be hot, not sure why but that is just how I am. Has to do with me being a former nerd and trying to break out of that mold so now I do want the club girl types. Sorority girls are out of the question, if you aren't a college aged guy who is in a frat or playing a sport then you aren't even on their radar so I ain't even got for all that ****.

Guess I should have just renamed this to how I can do better with hot girls at a nightclub.

 

[Heisenberg]

I know the exact type of girls you are talking about and I know the exact situation you are in... Because I'm always in that situation, haha.

Here's my take. Like you, I have no problems meeting and dating women and, yes, they are all more coffee shop types rather than those bar sluts who we want to bang because they look like the porn stars we jacked off to growing up (yes, this is why you want them).

Am I bothered by this? Sometimes, then logic kicks in. I've talked to these girls or listened to them talk - quite often at the gym I'll overhear their conversations with their Cpt America boyfriends. While I'm sure here are exceptions, there really isn't much to these girls. As someone who values conversation, I can't imagine carrying on with someone so basic. Sure, for an hour we are banging I would have a great view and there'd be so many hormones pumping through my system maybe I'll be high for a month. But what about before and after? What if an actual dating relationship starts? We're not going to like the same things. She'll want to go for expensive dinners all the time, cause that's what she's used to. She'll want to go out and get bottle service with a ton of friends, cause they're typically very social. Me? I'll want to stay in and watch netflix. We just wouldn't be able to keep each other satisfied.

In conclusion, OP, I would suggest the reason you and I attract a certain type of girls with ease is because they are more natural fits. You know why you meet a girl at a coffee shop? Because you're there in the first place. It just so happens your personality and your interests line up with girls who don't look like porn stars. But may I remind you that just because they don't look like porn stars, doesn't mean they can't fck like em. Plus there'll be so much less drama because you guys are at least from the same planet. Those other girls? Fun to look at, fun to show off at parties, fun to bang - but beyond the appearances and ego boost I'm sure it'd be excruciatingly boring. So much silence. Wtf would we talk about, I don't watch Keeping Up With The Kardashians?

If you're still determined, make a lot of $$$. Problem solved.

 

[SomethingDifferent]

Thank you Heisenberg but right now I am not really looking for meaning in relationships, what I am looking to do is expand and experiment. A lot has to do with me watching porn growing up but I see myself changing now as well. I spend more time at bars and nightclubs than I used to. It's almost like that longing for trying something different that you never had a shot at growing up.
In high school I was a geek so I didn't get a chance to really get the cheerleaders or the popular girls. In college my game was just developing so I usually ended up with the more introverted type of girls rather than the hot girls who went out to parties or were spending spring breaks on fancy beaches.

Now past college, I want to get past that barrier and break in with that crowd of girls. I could give less of a **** about personality tbh, for me, it's all about look and in this case clique.

 

[Heisenberg]

Thank you Heisenberg but right now I am not really looking for meaning in relationships, what I am looking to do is expand and experiment. A lot has to do with me watching porn growing up but I see myself changing now as well. I spend more time at bars and nightclubs than I used to. It's almost like that longing for trying something different that you never had a shot at growing up.
In high school I was a geek so I didn't get a chance to really get the cheerleaders or the popular girls. In college my game was just developing so I usually ended up with the more introverted type of girls rather than the hot girls who went out to parties or were spending spring breaks on fancy beaches.

Now past college, I want to get past that barrier and break in with that crowd of girls. I could give less of a **** about personality tbh, for me, it's all about look and in this case clique.

Sounds like an ego thing. Any time you try to accomplish something for ego's sake, doesn't tend to end well. Just do you, get successful, and all those other things will find their way to you.

I don't get this wanting something you've never had because you feel you missed out. The world doesn't owe you anything. You don't deserve those girls. It sounds like you want them not cause you want them, but because you're trying to right some kind of wrong. I don't see how you've been wronged.

Not saying you can't do it. There's an old story about a fish who looked beyond the ocean and dreamed off being human. It's a silly desire - it had a whole world at its disposal and yet it wasn't good enough because the fish so badly needed what it couldn't have, even if it was outside the natural order of the universe. But hey, to the fish's credit, it grew legs and became human. That fish, was The Little Mermaid.

You, my friend, are a little mermaid.

 

[SomethingDifferent]

Experience is the best teacher. I would rather **** some nightclub girls and feel dissatisfied after it rather than die knowing I never ****ed one. That has been my approach to life, one life to live so I might as well try it. Yes, it is mainly an ego thing.

Plus who wouldn't wanna **** this right here

http://www.homedecors1.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/nightclub-6.jpg

 

[Heisenberg]

Experience is the best teacher. I would rather **** some nightclub girls and feel dissatisfied after it rather than die knowing I never ****ed one. That has been my approach to life, one life to live so I might as well try it. Yes, it is mainly an ego thing.

Plus who wouldn't wanna **** this right here

http://www.homedecors1.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/nightclub-6.jpg

Yes, that is a sexy couch.

Then to answer your question, again, $$$$. Also, $tatu$. But since this seems more like just a bucket list thing to you, you could spend a lot one night, limo, suit, entourage, bottle service, and project that you have money and status and then bang one of them in a fancy hotel.

 

[Between_The_Lines]

Experience is the best teacher. I would rather **** some nightclub girls and feel dissatisfied after it rather than die knowing I never ****ed one. That has been my approach to life, one life to live so I might as well try it. Yes, it is mainly an ego thing.

Plus who wouldn't wanna **** this right here

http://www.homedecors1.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/nightclub-6.jpg

First and foremost, where do you live? If you're living out somewhere like Montana, Milwaukee, Rhode Island etc., then it's just not going to happen - ever.

With that said, if you want perhaps the quickest shortcut to achieve this, I'd say save up enough to go all out and spend a solid week or two in Vegas and game into the wee hours of the night until you scratch this one off your must-do list. Better still would be to move to Vegas. Depends on how high it ranks on your list of priorities.

 

[apprenticedj]

Do you approach these women? What has been the response you get from these women?

 

[SomethingDifferent]

Guys I could not get on the internet in the past few days so as a result I was not able to answer this thread. Now I am back to answer questions and seek more help.

I live in a medium sized city but the problem is that the club scene here sucks, there are a lot of overweight/trashy black and some mexican chicks here, we don't get the kind of girls you have seen on the pics. The few popular type girls I have run into are often in relationships with guys they met back in college. Some have been easy to talk to but there are not that many in my area. I did know a lot back in college but back then I was not as great as I am right now in terms of game and looks.