How to lead women - interaction analysis

[anour]

Sometimes you get IOIs just so the girl can get validated and that's all. You approaching and talking to them is enough for them.

Have you personally had situations like that occur to you?

 

[anour]

This to me is a situation where you need to work quickly for a close. Don’t beat yourself up. You did well talking to her initially i am sure, you just didnt have much time

Kinda the situation, i should’ve lead her with something along the lines “if you want to sit with me, follow me” @AmsterdamAssassin thanks to this guy’s tip!

 

[anour]

Hi Anour, for starters I think you should give yourself a pat on the back for trying. Today wasn't your day, but maybe next time there will be a different outcome. I don't think you should be too hung up on this or beat yourself up over it - it was just a brief conversation and so you shouldn't expect too much out of it or from her - there wasn't enough time to form something "solid".

On the one hand i'd figure if she was interested enough she would've waited for you so you both could have gotten on the train together. That being said she also could've been nervous/not really thinking; in short she might've not known what the heck she was doing. Don't worry too much about this part. The only thing I would've done differently is I would've tried to reconnect with her (so you could get a definitive answer). I'm thinking because she sat with those two other people it discouraged you and that's why you couldn't bring yourself to talk to her again? You figured she wasn't interested/things were lost? When I was younger I was in similar situations, a lot more times than I can count. You have to keep in mind even if she were to say no, you don't lose anything by trying. At least you would have an answe, the definitive conclusion, so you could be at peace with the situation instead of wondering about everything.

Now i'll tell you exactly what I would've done if I was in your position - I would've just walked up to her where she was and in ****y/flirty kind of tone I would've said something like you "you abandoned me back there!" and then I would've resumed whatever conversation was. Talk to her until you either had to get off or you could tell she was planning to get off. At that point you would say something like it was very nice talking to you and ask for her contact info so you can continue later.

How you get to the point where you are comfortable doing this stuff? By continually moving out of your comfort zone (in this situation just going for it. Don't worry about saying the wrong thing). You learn by trying and failing. Remember when you learned to ride a bike? Was probably a nightmare and you fell a lot. You swore you wouldn't get it but one day you did. Everything follows a similar process towards mastery.

I genuinely feel if someone abandons the conversation then they’re low interest. This **** happens alot in parties. Do you simply reconnect throughout the night or in this situation after we got off the train because we both were riding to the same destination!

 

[anour]

Low interest.

If she had been interested in you, she would have done everything she could to stay in your vicinity once you both got onto the train, not taken a seat next to another person.

I will commend you for approaching in the first place - something most men don't do. I am guessing you need to work on the interaction itself. You have very little time to make an impression with a cold approach in this situation, so you want to talk very briefly but be charming when you do it. In bar/night game situations you would want to work on her a bit before asking for the number. In this situation where time is of the essence, just go for it. You have nothing to lose. The worst she can do is say no or ignore you. But if she does who cares?

That’s the mindset. It was a bit of time squeeze but i feel i should’ve taken the charge and lead her to somewhere we can both sit. Do you have tips on that?

 

[Learning Curve]

Learning curve, i’m curious bro how long have you been doing game? The stuff you say is straight amendments. Thank you for your two cents man!

Long process in the making, but again I'm always learning new things and expanding my understanding.

I have been improving and adjusting my approach since I was 22 years old.

Keep pushing to learn but make sure you filter the correct info from this forums.

 

[Learning Curve]

Low interest.

If she had been interested in you, she would have done everything she could to stay in your vicinity once you both got onto the train, not taken a seat next to another person.

I will commend you for approaching in the first place - something most men don't do. I am guessing you need to work on the interaction itself. You have very little time to make an impression with a cold approach in this situation, so you want to talk very briefly but be charming when you do it. In bar/night game situations you would want to work on her a bit before asking for the number. In this situation where time is of the essence, just go for it. You have nothing to lose. The worst she can do is say no or ignore you. But if she does who cares?

You can't really define low interest because she did not stay in his orbit.

I had many situations that a woman left my orbit in cold-approaches but she had high-interest is just the logistics of what ever the place was at that time did not work out to spike a conversation.

You can't expect a woman seat near you in a train or just stand because she has initial high interest. Too many expectations from a woman you just met. There is high-interest and crazy-high-interest. Usually you start in the scale of 6 and move the ladder.

I bet if the OP spike a conversation outside the train, he would have got that phone number.

A low interest woman does not give eye-contacts as the OP mentioned. She will never give any signs to a guy she finds no attraction for. She will try to eject.

 

[anour]

Long process in the making, but again I'm always learning new things and expanding my understanding.

I have been improving and adjusting my approach since I was 22 years old.

Keep pushing to learn but make sure you filter the correct info from this forums.

Growth mindset. Always expanding your base of knowledge. Salute to you sir!

 

[anour]

Wby are you so salty? If you hesitate, you masturbate, and you hesitated. Also what he wrote is the hard truth, you're so desperate for women that they sniff that $hit from miles away.

Is you SMV high enough for women to chase after you? If not, get in the gym and make money first.

The thing is what you think you know is based on this context, so i’m not gonna even entertain that thought of yours. Thank you for passing by.

 

[NoFear]

The sitting thing is called s-h-i-t test and/or congruency test in this case she did it to test your desperation and leadership skillls amongst other things and its clear she sensed it, tested you and you failed.
In this forum most members despise game and PUAS but there are basics that should be learned and congruency tests are one of them.

 

[anour]

The sitting thing is called s-h-i-t test and/or congruency test in this case she did it to test your desperation and leadership skillls amongst other things and its clear she sensed it, tested you and you failed.
In this forum most members despise game and PUAS but there are basics that should be learned and congruency tests are one of them.

How can i know before hand when is a **** test. What would you have done in such a situation?
Wht are some books/youtube channels on **** tests?
How would you’ve lead in such a situation?

 

[Dr.Suave]

Dont sweat it bro. We all been there. You live and you learn. Next time remember Rollo: Rejection is better than regret

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

Lol i’m taking the same train but i see where you come from. Should’ve closed before going in.

Well there's another aspect to it, if your taking the same train, maybe you have time, but if she is low interest this is gonna be a really abrasive interaction for her, rather than accompanying her, you may be following her which is a different energy.

The second you find out she's taking the same train, you should run some basic logic in your head and think if you are gonna be taking this route regularly and if she is... If your gonna see her again, you should back right off, especially if she's lukewarm and kind of not feeling you because your gonna see her again.

When cold approaching, you'll know in seconds if she's into you or not which is why introducing levity through comedy is such a great tool to use because it's totally believable that you just wanted to have some fun, your authenticity is still there even if she's not feeling you, then next time you see her, you have another opportunity to be funny... Just cold approaching and looking for it right off the bat, you really have to have your personal life dialed in, not for her to see, but for you to have the utmost confidence in your approach, some guys naturally have that confidence but you sound very unsure of yourself.

Bottom line is that you are absolutely going to fail when cold approaching, it's no different than cold calling in sales, like a 10% acquisition rate on sales when cold calling is Friggin amazing, that means 1/10 calls your making a sale, you can eat off that sometimes but you need confidence, you need a good product (yourself) that is easily able to demonstrate its value and you also need a willing buyer, which is usually predicated upon the first 2 points, confidence and value.

Just taking cold approaches as they come, I mean you can do that as long as your learning, but learning also requires self reflection and that's hard to do under stress, so either get an audio recorder or even better find a way to video yourself so you can observe your own body language during the interaction.