How to keep yourself from infatuation ?

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Either I get infatuated like a moron, or when I 'remind' myself how 'evil' women can be, become suspicious of actions and break up. Max I could last was 1 month.



If I get into infatuation, it's really hard to keep yourself from daydreaming. As a kid I had problems with it since at start I couldn't make much of a difference what was I imagining and actually seeing in reality. This has it's own benefits when applied at certain places where I can 'simulate' things. But when it comes to relationsh1ts.

God. My mind wanders off. So either it will go lovey and sh1t. Or when I see stories here, start thinking she's getting gangbanged.


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I am very similar. It's very AFC in fact. We have to try to overcome this nonsense.

1. Spin more plates - More girls = less attention given to each one = less chance of getting infatuated with one girl = less chance of oneitis

2. Keep it simple. Don't text them often, let them initiate after you put in the initial effort.

3. Find other things to do. Go to the gym, hang out with your buddies, etc. When you're busy and having fun, you forget about *****es.

4. Don't masturbate to porn, or actually don't masturbate at all. Just because it will drive you to go after more girls. Often when you are complacent with one girl, you will masturbate to take care of things, which will prevent you from getting MORE from a girl. This can negatively promote infatuation with the girl.
 

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alpha_ash said:
I am very similar. It's very AFC in fact. We have to try to overcome this nonsense.

1. Spin more plates - More girls = less attention given to each one = less chance of getting infatuated with one girl = less chance of oneitis

2. Keep it simple. Don't text them often, let them initiate after you put in the initial effort.

3. Find other things to do. Go to the gym, hang out with your buddies, etc. When you're busy and having fun, you forget about *****es.

4. Don't masturbate to porn, or actually don't masturbate at all. Just because it will drive you to go after more girls. Often when you are complacent with one girl, you will masturbate to take care of things, which will prevent you from getting MORE from a girl. This can negatively promote infatuation with the girl.
1. I usually do this. But end up with feeling of great guilt. I simply hate it when I 'hide' things that are not supposed to be hidden. Like 'dating' or 'spinning'. Few times in classroom. Even though I'm a metal dude outcast when something was going on psychology class 70% of class voted for me to be the 'Alpha' male. Was fvcking weird to be honest. I simply want to make connections with people that are deep. Somehow making multiple connections desensitizes everything and I am left with feeling 'not worth it'.

I did spin 4 plates. Ended not doing NOTHING in the end because I lost interest and found them all boring.


2. They are receptive as long as I talk to them. Once I stop doing it. They do as well. One girl who I thought I had no chance actually texted me and I called her out. She rejected but made counter offer. That is , 'promised' that she will call me 'this week'. I don't sit near phone or anything. I already set it in my head as "she won't call".


3. I'm reorganizing my life. I'm focusing myself on spirituality. Not religion, but 'meeting' myself. Starting out with meditation and yoga. Making a plan of work that I will do throughout day. Like 'play 2 hours this at this time, then study... "

I got quite a few hobbies. I actually enjoy learning everything out of school.


4. Stopped that as well. I lost the urge for it after 5th day. Though sexual thoughts come I start thinking about time and space and forget about it in instant.
 

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Do you have a lot of guy friends? I think that is what you are missing. Whenever I have been down, hanging with my bros has provided the needed lift. You may want to try doing the same.
 

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alpha_ash said:
Do you have a lot of guy friends? I think that is what you are missing. Whenever I have been down, hanging with my bros has provided the needed lift. You may want to try doing the same.
I did around 8 in a group. But most of them are already in 2 year+ relationships and can't even go to WC without their girlfriends.



I got like 2 band members who I am really close with. And I usually tend to do better with fewer friends who are loyal as dogs. They are like blood brothers to me. But somehow they are occupied with their lives as well so no contact. It's me against the world.

Basically solitude. And somehow, at this point, solitude is kinda happening me since I have a need to transform myself. Much like 4 years ago when I went from beta introverted dude who was manipulated by one girl, to 'fk you' attitude guy who after 5 year friendzone got in RL and later KICKED her when she was disrespectful.

I already feel better for not crumbling down like I did 4 years ago.
 

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To be honest (and a lot of guys here might not agree with this) I think at your age (18) you should just let it happen. Go ahead and fall in love and get deeply attached to a woman and treat her great.

It will all come crashing down on you later and then you will see that all the wisdom you get from the DJ's here is correct. I honestly believe most men don't really "get it" until they have been screwed over. Until that happens.. you will always have this nagging suspicion in the back of your mind that says: "What if the DJ's are wrong? What if this is one of the good girls who deserves to be put on a pedestal?".

Almost all men need to crash and burn to learn. Better to do it when you're young and have little to lose. I crashed and burned at 22. I think its harder to think clearly in the 18-22 age range. Its the age when you want to take risks and go crazy sh!t. So do it for the sake of experience. You will gain wisdom and become a better DJ down the line.

Just don't get married! That's not even worth one try at any age IMO.
 

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I have a very similar problem to yours, actually.

This is somewhat a self reflective piece, which I wrote for myself and just saved on my computer, but I though I'd share it,maybe you will find something useful.


For last three or so years, I have not had a long term relationship, with my overall view on women declining and only recently I've fond a nice enough girl that I though "Hey, you know what, this one is different! She's smart, she's beautiful, she's friendly and good with kids and pets and butterflies and unicorns and *blaaaargh, emotional vomit*"

Yes, needless to say, it was infatuation.

The dreaded oneitis, the curse of every average man!

I went on a couple of dates, and by the end of the second one, when heading home, I had this huge AFC rush, this huge need to do write poetry and sing songs to her and tell her I want to date her and.. well, you know how it goes. What I did was, I vocalized my attraction, thus killing it in her. I made something that was supposed to be fun and light into something awkward and heavy.


So I cut all the contact with her, and had a lot of time to think about all this. See, I enjoy analyzing and solving complex problems, breaking them down and simplifying everything into manageable chunks that can be easily taken care of. So I analyzed and analyzed.

No, not what she said, or what she did, or what she probably thought when X happened. (Well, okay, I may have done some of it).

I analyzed and looked into myself and why it was such way, why did I believe she is *perfect*, why I would randomly think about her smile in the middle of the day, or how we both could go somewhere, or what should I say to her next time I see her. All these thoughts that you read about and think "Ha, such an AFC, boy, what is he thinking?".

And it was, the more I though, the more clear and simple it became. It was not her, not the girl, but my idea of what I saw in her, and my emotional investment in her that her in my mind.

Pook, I believe, once wrote about how every man is wired to have this picture of one woman, the one for his whole life, somewhere in his mind. And so did I - I realized that the girl I invested so much of my emotions was actually that painting, a weird coping mechanism of mine.

People say spin more plates. I didn't like this idea, and what I'd do was, in retrospect, so stupid. I would find a girl that I could become infatuated with, but one I could never reach. For example, this girl I mentioned: we were in a different country for last couple years, and only recently have I returned and could meet up with her. So I while I was away, I could go on dates and bang lots of other girls, without any worries of infatuation, since I already had *that* girl which I'd get one day, in my mind, the perfect one, and everything else was just a way to get experience and so on.

Don't ever do this. If this sounds familiar, you're in trouble. See, it works, but it works only for awhile. It's like they put saw dust into carburetors in cars when selling to make them run smooth, or something (I'm not a mechanic, I don't know the details). It's a fake solution, something that appears to alleviate symptoms, but not fix the underlying issue.

I'm not even sure if it has to be a concrete girl in ones mind, if following such path, since by the end of the road, it's not the girl, it's the *idea* of what one thinks of the girl, of all the emotions and thoughts invested in her, and things you *would* both do, that you become infatuated with.

See, I analyzed a lot. I found so many flaws in this girl, I found so many reasons why I should not be infatuated with her. Logically, I had no business spending any time on that girl at all, however, I could just not stop myself from giving her a little thought here or there every day, and that little annoying voice that would whisper "ooooh, maybe we can still get together if I ride into town on a giant velociraptor armed with a machine gun and save her from an army of zombies, she'd jump into my arms!" *bleeurgh*

Agonizing about something that was not there, foolish me! But it was me that placed her upon that pedestal, it was me who decided that there *is* some perfect girl, and that she will do it.

Don't think that there is that perfect girl. If you catch yourself thinking that one day you will find an awesome girl, and start imagining what she will be like, what you both will do, what you will say to her... stop. Stop it, stop it while you can, because as long as you wait for something, as long as you buy in into that "perfect girl" idea, you lose every time you find a girl that has even slight similarity to your idea. And then, once you realize, it will take so long, so much effort to jump out of this vicious cycle of obsessing, it will make life painful, it will interfere with hobbies and work and every other thing you built over time!

Knowing what you want is great. Obsessing over it, in this case, is not.

There's no princess that needs to be saved, there's no perfect girl waiting around the corner, there's no perfect girl at all.

There's just girl, that you may one day decide is awesome enough to be with you. But you don't know what she's like yet, and don't try to think about it. Just live, and as it was written so much, the women will come.
 

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ScottMustaine said:
Either I get infatuated like a moron, or when I 'remind' myself how 'evil' women can be, become suspicious of actions and break up. Max I could last was 1 month.



If I get into infatuation, it's really hard to keep yourself from daydreaming. As a kid I had problems with it since at start I couldn't make much of a difference what was I imagining and actually seeing in reality. This has it's own benefits when applied at certain places where I can 'simulate' things. But when it comes to relationsh1ts.

God. My mind wanders off. So either it will go lovey and sh1t. Or when I see stories here, start thinking she's getting gangbanged.


Any tips ?

great thread, I have that same imagination thing, I usually get my dreams mixed up to where I thought it was something that really happened to me.

You have to use that strong imagination for your benefit though and not toward girl, use to make art, make music, write a book etc.

I use my strong visions and imaginations in my music though, I use it to hear how loops would sound before I even make the song.
 

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How to keep yourself from infatuation ?

Get her naked and have sex with her. Somewhere in that process, you will discover parts of her that you don't like; I can guarantee it. All of us are far from perfect, and it you think anyone is that great, it's probably because you don't know them very well.
 

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Thanks guys, but problem seems a bit more complex.

Like, I always look for the bad things around people, but mostly disregard them. My brain is built to search for negative but remain positive the whole picture. Plus the fact that I remind myself that I got nerves of steel, which will be able to take up tension.

Yes, I do realize there is no such thing. I do also use that imagination with other things, but simply put it. It's hard to control. I enter the sea of Dreams and Music and feel like regenerating. My surrounding is 70% fvcked up, and as a kid it seems I learned how to make parallel world to live in as a coping mechanism.

So I find all the weaknesses in the girl, I still feel I'm into her, then talking to any other girl creates feeling of GUILT. Yes I know what it is, but it seems like I can't stop it.


@PlayeHerMan Let's say I had oneitis for one girl since 14 years. Like I always liked her and we were friends etc. When I Dj-ed and hit 18 years I finally made her my gf after so many failed attempts. It didn't pay off, but it was nice, though she had no respect for me and started accusing me as a manipulator and sadist. Like... Who actually would agree to let his gf sleep over ex-bf's house for 1 month on vacation(sea), with the fact that she broke up with him because of DISTANCE.
Exactly, I couldn't take it and made ultimatum and left out.

It's been like, half a year since break up. And everyday thoughts still come and go about her. A lot better ( NC half year) but they pop up at random. It gets annoying.

As I said, flow of my imagination is big. Sometimes it's about wars, sometimes about wild sex, being famous... I even sometimes make a 'debate' in my head simulating what would 'my opponent' say. This has actually helped me a lot being quick witted when it comes to finding counter-arguments that point contradictions.

I crashed like... 2-3 years ago and first got gf and set on journey of DJ's.
If it weren't for my horny body I wouldn't even think about girls.

Most of my 'mind' is asexual. That being said, I seem to get more attached to people based through experiences than by looks. But let's see where will I go...

Sex didn't seem to 'fire me up' like it did most of my people around me. Sure thing it's nice, but it kinda does more harm than good in men. I'm not gay or something... It actually would seem to be the thing that would create OBSTACLES.
It gets annoying when you get horny and you are solving something etc.
Sometimes I want to chop off my balls lol.
 

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ScottMustaine said:
Thanks guys, but problem seems a bit more complex.

Like, I always look for the bad things around people, but mostly disregard them. My brain is built to search for negative but remain positive the whole picture. Plus the fact that I remind myself that I got nerves of steel, which will be able to take up tension.

Yes, I do realize there is no such thing. I do also use that imagination with other things, but simply put it. It's hard to control. I enter the sea of Dreams and Music and feel like regenerating. My surrounding is 70% fvcked up, and as a kid it seems I learned how to make parallel world to live in as a coping mechanism.

So I find all the weaknesses in the girl, I still feel I'm into her, then talking to any other girl creates feeling of GUILT. Yes I know what it is, but it seems like I can't stop it.


@PlayeHerMan Let's say I had oneitis for one girl since 14 years. Like I always liked her and we were friends etc. When I Dj-ed and hit 18 years I finally made her my gf after so many failed attempts. It didn't pay off, but it was nice, though she had no respect for me and started accusing me as a manipulator and sadist. Like... Who actually would agree to let his gf sleep over ex-bf's house for 1 month on vacation(sea), with the fact that she broke up with him because of DISTANCE.
Exactly, I couldn't take it and made ultimatum and left out.

It's been like, half a year since break up. And everyday thoughts still come and go about her. A lot better ( NC half year) but they pop up at random. It gets annoying.

As I said, flow of my imagination is big. Sometimes it's about wars, sometimes about wild sex, being famous... I even sometimes make a 'debate' in my head simulating what would 'my opponent' say. This has actually helped me a lot being quick witted when it comes to finding counter-arguments that point contradictions.

I crashed like... 2-3 years ago and first got gf and set on journey of DJ's.
If it weren't for my horny body I wouldn't even think about girls.

Most of my 'mind' is asexual. That being said, I seem to get more attached to people based through experiences than by looks. But let's see where will I go...

Sex didn't seem to 'fire me up' like it did most of my people around me. Sure thing it's nice, but it kinda does more harm than good in men. I'm not gay or something... It actually would seem to be the thing that would create OBSTACLES.
It gets annoying when you get horny and you are solving something etc.
Sometimes I want to chop off my balls lol.
Yeah.. when I was younger I used to become more attracted to girls after "getting to know them" more.. but what it really came down to (as I learned later) was a comfort and trust issue. Just being insecure about my "performance" because I wanted female approval. Once you realize no woman's approval matters and that you are above all women, you will get past this.

New girls you meet are the best because you don't really know them from a hole in the wall. Who they are inside is totally unknown.. so instead of letting that intimidate you.. take advantage of it. You can fill in the blanks with your imagination. Rather than wasting time trying to figure out who she is and getting infatuated while blowing money jumping through hoops and going on beta dates... just project onto her whatever personality makes your c0ck hard and pound her ASAP.
 
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