How To Handle When Plate Pushes For A Relationship?

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So let me start by giving you a few bits of information.

She is a 24 years old, hot Russian girl.. I am 48 years old this coming February, obviously quite some age difference.

Let's talk Red Flags?

Well most of her freinds are guys.. She goes out to bars/clubs pretty often with her slvt Freind & does get drunk... She also posts heavily on Social media platforms pics of herself.

Also has no father in her life, and does get depression.

All of the above rule her out for an LTR in my mind, the writing is on the wall.

I especially don't like the fact the she goes out drinking quite abit... But I have to take Into consideration that she is age 24... And chicks in the West who are hot at that age, tend to go through that hoe phase.

Recently she has began calling be babe, baby etc in her text messages, lots of kisses etc... To make matters worse, the last time I smashed her, a week ago, she began talking about some of the things we could do together in the coming summer & future etc..

She is talking about long term plans together.

Sooo.. I do like this chick, however an LTR with her is very very likely to be toxic as fuk.

What's the best cause forward.

Do I let her know that her being around male friends is a problem, going out to bar's clubs..

Or.. do I simply go along with her illusion of a relationship with me, and keep smashing till she realises, she won't get an LTR from me.
 

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The lots of male friends is a problem, tell her, but she won’t comply.

I’ve discovered this about women I’ve dated and summarily dumped them.

It doesn’t work in an LTR. If you want to just bang her and not care about who else she’s sleeping with and it’s worth it to you then proceed.

So let me start by giving you a few bits of information.

She is a 24 years old, hot Russian girl.. I am 48 years old this coming February, obviously quite some age difference.

Let's talk Red Flags?

Well most of her freinds are guys.. She goes out to bars/clubs pretty often with her slvt Freind & does get drunk... She also posts heavily on Social media platforms pics of herself.

Also has no father in her life, and does get depression.

All of the above rule her out for an LTR in my mind, the writing is on the wall.

I especially don't like the fact the she goes out drinking quite abit... But I have to take Into consideration that she is age 24... And chicks in the West who are hot at that age, tend to go through that hoe phase.

Recently she has began calling be babe, baby etc in her text messages, lots of kisses etc... To make matters worse, the last time I smashed her, a week ago, she began talking about some of the things we could do together in the coming summer & future etc..

She is talking about long term plans together.

Sooo.. I do like this chick, however an LTR with her is very very likely to be toxic as fuk.

What's the best cause forward.

Do I let her know that her being around male friends is a problem, going out to bar's clubs..

Or.. do I simply go along with her illusion of a relationship with me, and keep smashing till she realises, she won't get an LTR from me.
 

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How often do you see her?
I'd imagine if you agreed to be in a relationship with her, she would try to see you more often.
You could agree to be in a relationship but you don't have to invest 100% until you are sure about her.
 

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How often do you see her?
I'd imagine if you agreed to be in a relationship with her, she would try to see you more often.
You could agree to be in a relationship but you don't have to invest 100% until you are sure about her.
I only see her once a week.. she makes hints about relationships, but I don't.

Personally I see too many red flags here for a LTR... She is age 24 and going through the hoe phase. Fixing all these issues will be an uphill struggle.

Most girls won't drop all there male friends.. I think she would would have to push for a serious commitment, so I can dictate the terms of the relationship..

But mostly I am thinking, best to keep smashing for a little while, then just next her... Some girls are broken beyond repair
 

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Well done at getting a hot 24 year old as a plate.

As to your next step..your previous posts on this thread seem a good way. Both options you stated seem a good way. You could explain that yes I will have a relationship, but these are my boundarys....or continue smashing til it fizzles out.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Well most of her freinds are guys.. She goes out to bars/clubs pretty often with her slvt Freind & does get drunk... She also posts heavily on Social media platforms pics of herself.

Also has no father in her life, and does get depression.

All of the above rule her out for an LTR in my mind, the writing is on the wall.

I especially don't like the fact the she goes out drinking quite abit... But I have to take Into consideration that she is age 24... And chicks in the West who are hot at that age, tend to go through that hoe phase.

Recently she has began calling be babe, baby etc in her text messages, lots of kisses etc... To make matters worse, the last time I smashed her, a week ago, she began talking about some of the things we could do together in the coming summer & future etc..
She is not LTR material, she is lying to your face to manipulate clearly you. Do not date this girl because she has more red flags than a Chinese parade. Men need to validate women more not try and fix things with rotten foundations.
 

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She is not LTR material, she is lying to your face to manipulate clearly you. Do not date this girl because she has more red flags than a Chinese parade. Men need to validate women more not try and fix things with rotten foundations.
I agree with you man... The red flags are too many. She is young so more likely in her hoe phase, plus the Freinds she keeps are likely hoes too.

She admits to have mostly guy freinds, so ironing all these issues out isn't even worth it.

I think best way forward is, to keep smashing & let her make most of the effort.

When she starts talking about LTR, I simply change or avoid the subject matter.
 

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Well done at getting a hot 24 year old as a plate.

As to your next step..your previous posts on this thread seem a good way. Both options you stated seem a good way. You could explain that yes I will have a relationship, but these are my boundarys....or continue smashing til it fizzles out.
In order to lay down some boundaries, I need to hold the leverage.. This means she has to be the one, calling for a relationship/commitment...

She is already indicating or communicating with me, like she wants an LTR

I think for now I keep smashing. I seriously don't think this girl is ideal LTR

Also, there are other subliminal ways of communicating to a chick about boundaries.

I sometimes will talk about other girls, I know Infront of her... Like I will state one girl I know is a attention hoe online, pump and dump only, never a LTR material girl.

She gets the message
 

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Use the illusion. Eventlually this ends.
I have a 12 yr gap in mine. Yours is a lot more.
You have 2 options I see. Fogg her or just be strait with her about it.

I guess there is a third. Go LTR with her but with 24 yrs if you are not super wealthy or have a bunch of other young options I would not. She could put you in a broke grave
Broke grave or much worse gets pregnant.

Maybe give her the illusion of a relationship?
 

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Well... the age difference is the biggest red flag for a LTR. I have one like this (I'm 55, she is 32) the only difference is that mine is closer to the wall, not Russian (which is big), and isn't so much of an attention wh0re on social media. But she is a party girl, lots of fun, goes out a lot. Truth is I am too old to keep up with her, if she was the only chick I was dating she would fvcking exhaust me. Wants a LTR but I pushed back... she continues to keep things casual, but I know that as soon as she finds a dude that will commit We are done.

You can't control what women do, especially in their 20s. Just tell her what you want and be prepared for her to walk when you lay down your truth. You would be making a big mistake if you go along with her plan, but if you want exclusivity then I suspect things would be okay for awhile... but it won't last. If you are okay with this then it's what you want.

The only advice I can give is never agree to anything you do not want unless she is giving you something of equal value. Again, it all depends on you. Put yourself first because you can be sure she is putting herself first. I can't really give you advice because I don't know what you want, what you are willing to live with, or what she is looking for.... however, is suspect odds are not in your favor.
 

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If your gut is telling you she is not LTR material then dont even give her the illusion of a LTR.
 

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She’s not LTR material. You’ve already established that.

When she pushes for the LTR conversation, just be direct about what you are looking for. Then say “let’s keep things the way they are.” Odds are she will drop off eventually.
 

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Have you considered a non-monogamous relationship?
 

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Forget the labels man. Those are just words. Just live your best life. Focus on your mission and let her do the mental gymnastics of wordplay by herself. Keep her around if you like her company or it makes you happy.
 
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