freshprince said:
This guy is in another country how the hell would he know?? Now i know its wrong what i am trying to do is wrong but when push comes to shove i bet my money you guys would do the same, you probably never got the chance to. This is a dog eat dog world and they are a lot of savage guys who don't give a sh!t and these are the bad guys while your being the nice guy
well i am tired of being the nice guy, **** classy!
If you search my archive you will find me giving countless advice to guys on how to get taken women, how to keep women they've stolen (who want to go back to the ex), and my own stories of evilness.
I would say, at once point - i was addicted to ONLY dating women who were involved with other men. The appeal was this: 1) They were being neglected in their relationship and were WAY more feminine and sexually starved. 2) The BF did all the work, and i got all the goods. 3) The tests were far less frequent once you passed the initial "trustability" ones.
In general - i felt women who were taken were easier and more fun.
So, i chased mostly that. Women who were single barely appealed to me.
2 years in - i'd been with married women, girls with boyfriends, girls with fiances, and even my boss at work (a milf who is married!).
It was fun, but it's an insane fvcking way to live. I was once the biggest advocate of being with taken women; i would be in this thread right here calling all the "don't do this" people morale police, and i'd be giving you the advice you search for.
But, now, i have a different opinion; instead of reposting what i already wrote a few days ago - here's the link to some thoughts i have on it:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=173387
To add:
Once you start heading down the path of being with cheaters - your personal faith in a woman ever being faithful to you WILL DIMINISH TO NOTHING!
I know that i will never be able to trust a woman. I've had women do very fvcked up things with me, and go home to their BFs and smile like nothing happened.
All these flags guys say will tell you if a woman is cheating or not - are true. BUT, there are some women so good at this - that they show NO signs to their BFs/Husbands.
We can sit here and talk about "quality women" or "good girls" all we want; but none of us can be 100% right on our judgement, and NO GIRL is 100% good or quality. They all have some bad in them; as do all humans.
So... a result of my years of helping women be unfaithful is... i won't ever be able to trust a woman... especially if she has to work late at her job, go out for drinks with friends, etc.
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That's just a little warning for you.
Now, as far as your question - well.... im sorry to say that you don't have much chance with this woman. As others have said you're friendzoned or dangerously close to being there.
You messed up by not making the move at optimum time (and then continuing to fail). I don't know when that would have been, but i've ALWAYS known the correct time to make the move. That's where skill and experience overcome anything you can learn on a message board.
You need to let tension build and then make your move.
By making a move, getting rejected, and then continuing to be around this girl (to make more moves and get rejected) you're sinking deeper and deeper.
The evil advice i can give you is - pull back, stop giving her attention, game other girls in front of her, make her jealous.... and, she should have an openly emotional response to that ("you think i don't know what you're doing?") ... if that doesn't work - at least you won't be wasting your time gaming her.
