How old is too old for never having a gf before? And being envious of those who do have a gf.

[DongWong]

im 24 years old and never had a girlfriend. Every time I go out, I always see couples everywhere and can't help but be a bit envious. The reason for my envy is that I have put so much effort into myself and put effort in going out alone and approaching women, and reading and studying a bit of pick up. Also facing countless rejections hoping that I would learn lessons and accumulating experience to carry into the next interaction. I do all these things and yet I see guys out there that don't put in any effort in themselves, behave awkward and not really have any great social skills and have no goals or ambitions in their lives, and yet they still get the girl and get laid. I'm career oriented, fitness focused, and spend my extra time working on improving my social skills and putting myself out there even when I don't feel like it and I always feel anxiety about going up to complete strangers and talk to them. Why is it that I go up to so many girls and get rejected by all of them and see and know guys that don't do anything to better themselves and yet, girls fall into their laps it seems. Please help!

 

[MrWood]

try the no approach approach.
eg:
do not approach them to talk/flirt. Do you talk to dudes easily? probably
do you "approach" them? or just start talking about an observation or situation?

try that but with a woman.

 

[DongWong]

try the no approach approach.
eg:
do not approach them to talk/flirt. Do you talk to dudes easily? probably
do you "approach" them? or just start talking about an observation or situation?

try that but with a woman.

I've been using a lot of obversational openers lately, and I've also been improving on my body language and eye contact. It's just the majority of girls that I talk to either doesn't seem to be interested or lack social skills. I approached this girl today and she was mumbling a lot, and she couldn't hold eye contact. I felt some kind of power flowing through my eye contact and it was like laser beams. I felt like my eye contact was cutting this girl down. Could it be that perceived high confidence turn women off?

 

[devilkingx2]

I've been using a lot of obversational openers lately, and I've also been improving on my body language and eye contact. It's just the majority of girls that I talk to either doesn't seem to be interested or lack social skills. I approached this girl today and she was mumbling a lot, and she couldn't hold eye contact. I felt some kind of power flowing through my eye contact and it was like laser beams. I felt like my eye contact was cutting this girl down. Could it be that perceived high confidence turn women off?

she was probably shy but if you're confident that's a good thing, never let go of it

 

[MrWood]

Sorry bro, fake confidence turns women off. I think your are coming across as someone trying to "use" lines.
No one likes to be stared at, and you cant feel any power from your eye contact if she keeps looking away.

For a fetch I have used my eyes since I was 13 to pick up women. They are sky blue and always complimented on them. I have laid chicks simply with eye contact... what you describe is not it.

You are picking up yourself, not women. Re-read your own posts.

 

[DongWong]

Sorry bro, fake confidence turns women off. I think your are coming across as someone trying to "use" lines.
No one likes to be stared at, and you cant feel any power from your eye contact if she keeps looking away.

For a fetch I have used my eyes since I was 13 to pick up women. They are sky blue and always complimented on them. I have laid chicks simply with eye contact... what you describe is not it.

You are picking up yourself, not women. Re-read your own posts.

How would you suggest I use my eye contact?

 

[MrWood]

try being normal first. You need to judge the first FROM her to you. If she does not smile or looks away to the side, disengage

 

[DongWong]

try being normal first. You need to judge the first FROM her to you. If she does not smile or looks away to the side, disengage

I believe that I was pretty confident, well for the most part I was feeling really relaxed. I'm not sure if that counts as being normal. I only engaged once I got a smile. I made sure to make eye contact while I was talking to her, and the conversation wasn't too brief because she was asking me questions back. So there were some even exchanges. I felt like it was a W for me since I went after what I wanted and not need to over analyze it before hand. In my opinion, it was gaining experience. Whether or not she liked me has nothing to do with me. I did not regret it. It's all part of the process I guess. Gaining experience good, no?

 

[Yewki]

I've been using a lot of obversational openers lately, and I've also been improving on my body language and eye contact. It's just the majority of girls that I talk to either doesn't seem to be interested or lack social skills. I approached this girl today and she was mumbling a lot, and she couldn't hold eye contact. I felt some kind of power flowing through my eye contact and it was like laser beams. I felt like my eye contact was cutting this girl down. Could it be that perceived high confidence turn women off?

More important than understanding you can't win them all

Is understanding you shouldn't win them all

You don't wan't a lot of the girls that are out there. At least I hope

 

[bigneil]

im 24 years old and never had a girlfriend. Every time I go out, I always see couples everywhere and can't help but be a bit envious.

I didn't have my first real girlfriend until I was almost 23. Looking back, she was the hottest girl I ever dated, and the one I had the most sex with. She was 18 at the time. I probably would have married her if we lived a generation before, but she was the standard early 1990's bisexual beauty. We spoke last year, 22 years later, and both ended the call with "I love you".

 

[DongWong]

More important than understanding you can't win them all

Is understanding you shouldn't win them all

You don't wan't a lot of the girls that are out there. At least I hope

Yeah I totally understand, there are some girls I've approached girls who I was not attracted to, at first it was for practice and then as I kept getting rejected I started to feel a little desperate for the validation and tried harder to get dates. These girls were solid 3-5's and they had too much attitude and had an entitled attitude, then I realized that they weren't worth the trouble, I know I can and deserve better.

 

[DongWong]

I didn't have my first real girlfriend until I was almost 23. Looking back, she was the hottest girl I ever dated, and the one I had the most sex with. She was 18 at the time. I probably would have married her if we lived a generation before, but she was the standard early 1990's bisexual beauty. We spoke last year, 22 years later, and both ended the call with "I love you".

Thanks for the story man, felt a little hope.

 

[Bingo-Player]

im 24 and ive never had a serious relationship although i have had opportunities too ive never felt a strong enough connection to a woman to commit to her for a long period which i dont see a problem with

be under no illusion that a lot of people will simply settle for anyone out of loneliness , trust me this isnt a wise move

 

[DongWong]

im 24 and ive never had a serious relationship although i have had opportunities too ive never felt a strong enough connection to a woman to commit to her for a long period which i dont see a problem with

be under no illusion that a lot of people will simply settle for anyone out of loneliness , trust me this isnt a wise move

Yeah, I definitely feel that, my friends tell me I'm too picky, but from my perspective, it looks like they're pretty miserable themselves, stopped doing the things they enjoy and really let themselves go and gained a lot of weight. They probably have sex like once a year. Relationships like that seems like a HUGE L to me.

 

[nismo-4]

Yeah, I definitely feel that, my friends tell me I'm too picky, but from my perspective, it looks like they're pretty miserable themselves, stopped doing the things they enjoy and really let themselves go and gained a lot of weight. They probably have sex like once a year. Relationships like that seems like a HUGE L to me.

On the bright side, you can get out there and make more money! Girls are just distractions. Don't catch feelings for a girl ever unles you want to get hurt.

 

[DongWong]

On the bright side, you can get out there and make more money! Girls are just distractions. Don't catch feelings for a girl ever unles you want to get hurt.

That's definitely my plan! Girls are nice, but I have aspirations and hobbies outside of that! Life is short, and the last thing I want is a migraine. Lol

 

[Bingo-Player]

Yeah, I definitely feel that, my friends tell me I'm too picky, but from my perspective, it looks like they're pretty miserable themselves, stopped doing the things they enjoy and really let themselves go and gained a lot of weight. They probably have sex like once a year. Relationships like that seems like a HUGE L to me.

everyone has problems in life the strong ones will admit them, the weak ones become delusional

i have a friend whom is literally sandwiched into a relationship because he doesn't have the backbone to tell her he doesn't love her, she runs his life , spends his money and sex is on her terms only

and you wouldn't believe how much of this is actually going on behind closed doors

i would rather be single for the rest of my life than stuck in a situation like that

choose carefully.

 

[DongWong]

everyone has problems in life the strong ones will admit them, the weak ones become delusional

i have a friend whom is literally sandwiched into a relationship because he doesn't have the backbone to tell her he doesn't love her, she runs his life , spends his money and sex is on her terms only

and you wouldn't believe how much of this is actually going on behind closed doors

i would rather be single for the rest of my life than stuck in a situation like that

choose carefully.

Will do sir. Honestly, I've been on a dryspell for about a year now, so the last thing on my mind is a relationship. I would much rather have a FWB, whenever I do get some action, it's usually a one night stand and then I go through another dryspell. That's why I signed up here, learn and grow and get consistent lays, I don't mind one night stands as long as they're consistent.

 

[old_skoolr]

Why would you be jealous over guys who have gfs.

Think about it?? There stuck with one chick while you have the option of pursuing any girl you want.

Doing whatever you want, whenever you wanted.

 

[LiveFreeX]

Don't worry about it, and travel somewhere new, the girls in your region might not be into your specific race.