How much do you value your freedom?

How free do you want to be?

  • Tie me down and spank me!

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A secure job, a loving HB8 wife, and a house in the 'burbs!

    Votes: 6 28.6%
  • One foot in the fire, one hand holding a bucket of water

    Votes: 7 33.3%
  • Real men gamble with their lives

    Votes: 8 38.1%

  • Total voters
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diplomatic_lies

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How much do you want to be "free"?

I'm not referring to flag-waving American "freedom", but rather, your personal social freedom. For instance, would you accept the security of a low-paying job over a high-paying high-risk job? If you're over the age of 40, would you prefer to marry a HB8, instead of waiting around for that HB9?
 

spider_007

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i wish i had the freedom to join the army (my mother would track me down in the middle of iraq to bring me warm soup:( )
 

TheRelic

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Originally posted by spider_007
i wish i had the freedom to join the army (my mother would track me down in the middle of iraq to bring me warm soup:( )
Ha, you've got a good mother mate.

We get scowls from ours if we dare walk in to the same room as her :rolleyes:
 

spider_007

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Originally posted by TheRelic
Ha, you've got a good mother mate.

We get scowls from ours if we dare walk in to the same room as her :rolleyes:
LUCKY BASTARD!!!! :p
 

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One foot in the fire, one hand holding a bucket of water
 

The Bad Ass Canadian

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I've always been a gambler..... The idea of a decent 9-5 job, a wife and a house in the burbs turns my stomach.

I'm out to take all or nothing with my career choice. might work out, might not.


I'll die trying, either way.
 

Visceral

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Depends on how you define freedom: free to act or free from need?
 

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I am as free as society permits.

I own my own business: nobody in charge of me.

I don't own a credit card: banks don't own me, I have no obligation to them.

I have a prepaid mobile: I'm not compelled to spend set amount of time with any company.

I earn good money: freedom from want.

I don't have any debt: freedom from obligation

I'm a trained fighter: freedom from fear.

I have a harem: freedom from boredom, freedom from bullsh*t (they know if they give me sh*t they won't see me for ages).

Basically nothing holds me down, nothing holds me back. I could leave town tomorrow - or even tonight if I decided - and there's no loose ends to worry about, no money owed to anyone, nothing that means I have to stick around.
 

RaWBLooD

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none of those options is me, gambling is stupid and the othe stuff is so conformist.

GO N LIVE UR CONFORMIST LIVES, u conformists, with your conformist friends and conforming family !
 

Nocturnal

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Originally posted by manuva
I am as free as society permits.

I own my own business: nobody in charge of me.

I don't own a credit card: banks don't own me, I have no obligation to them.

I have a prepaid mobile: I'm not compelled to spend set amount of time with any company.

I earn good money: freedom from want.

I don't have any debt: freedom from obligation

I'm a trained fighter: freedom from fear.

I have a harem: freedom from boredom, freedom from bullsh*t (they know if they give me sh*t they won't see me for ages).

Basically nothing holds me down, nothing holds me back. I could leave town tomorrow - or even tonight if I decided - and there's no loose ends to worry about, no money owed to anyone, nothing that means I have to stick around.
You are ignoring the important one: freedom of choice. You have the choice to get a credit card, it is not an obligation. That is the freedom that matters. Under that assumption, you have the complete right not to get a credit card, but why wouldn't you? The benefits outweigh the risks in most cases, in my opinion.

That is just one example. It sounds like it is not freedom that is important to you, but safety, that you want the freedom to avoid risk and obligation as much as possible. But no one ever got anywhere without taking risks, remember that. Just because you have the right to do something doesn't make it rational to do it.
 

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We shouldn't have to compromise our safety in order to do things - doing so strikes me as stupidity, not courage.

EX: Donald Trump can risk millions because he has billions to fall back on - do you honestly think he'd risk just as much if it was all he had?

Some people are watching too much TV and movies ... this is the real world; there will be no miraculous turn of events if you screw up.
 

Nocturnal

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Originally posted by Visceral
We shouldn't have to compromise our safety in order to do things - doing so strikes me as stupidity, not courage.
No one should have to compromise their invidividual safety --but they should have the right to do so if they choose to.

Donald Trump can choose to risk millions -- or choose not to. That is his freedom.

On a broader scale, such as "national security," freedom should always take precedence over safety. Always. Individual rights are uncompromisable. And safety is not guaranteed... that is the price that comes with existence.
 
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