How many dates without action before you eject?

[newtothis92]

What a head ****. There was times when I was with her she would seem so absorbed, eyes bright and loving. Yet I always had a gut feeling she was holding back (obvious) or just her heart wasn't in it.

She messages me. Every.single.day. Then she does/says stuff like this. I think this girl is super insecure and likes more than 1 guy (me being one of them) and is just non committal.

It's over now though. I can't keep going on like this, time to end the mental torment.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

The replies in this post baffle me.

First, I agree in that if you go for a kiss on the first date and she doesn't reciprocate, she's probably not into you and I would recommend backing off. But the rest is kind of comical. You have 90% of the posters on here saying eject if she doesn't put out by the 3rd or 4th date. Yet, these are most of the same guys who b*itch, p*iss, moan, and complain that this chick did this, did that, played games, ghosted, cheated, etc. etc.

So let me get this straight: You want a high value girl, that's not a s*lut, good, attitude, non-Cluster B, hot, all this stuff BUT she has to put out right away or you eject. F*ucking hilarious (and sad...).

Look...

Instead of focusing on how fast you can orgasm with a chick, if she's a keeper in most categories but a little slow in putting out, what's the big f*ucking deal??? It most likely means SHE IS a woman worth waiting for and doing the slow-burn with. Not all women are w*hores who put out right away and the ones that do rarely make good gf's or LTR or marriage material.

The best LTR I ever had was with a hot Croatian woman. We dated and then lived together and were together for a total of 9 years. She was a HB8.5 easily. The breakup was amicable as we just got bored with each other over time, and nothing lasts forever. No hard feelings. But, the point I'm making is we held off on intercourse for about the first two months of dating. It was no big deal. I liked her and she had many of the qualities I was looking for in a LTR. Then, when the time was right, we went for it. Had she scr*ewed me early on, there's no way I would have considered her LTR material, and I think she smartly knew that.

So, moral of the story, it's not always about HOW FAST you can lay a chick--if you want a good one. And, if she does put out on the first couple dates and ends up bat s*hit crazy, you only have yourself to blame.

Good luck.

~Dash

The entire three date rule was to establish sufficient interest. Cause in the age of social media women were stringing men along for free dates .

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Dude. Your critical mistake as player supreme said is you were guilty of "ho chasing" . The female never chose you but used you as an escort for a few dates and outings. Once you were all into her body and how a hand hold made your dyck hard you were toast, that was pedastalation . She's supposed to admire you . Not the other way .

Women all over the country are doing similar things. Stretching guys out for dates. Getting their non sexual attention while having no interest in sex.

You see how you over analyzed it? You had too much thought. Going forward don't deal with any females who don't show tremendous interest, it's not worth it. God bless you.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

She's come crawling back again telling me how much she really likes me. At this point, it's hard to not believe her words, why would she ****ing bother messaging me every single day if she didn't care? Is she just sad this source of attention has had enough and is moving on? Like literally she messages me every single day, long texts how much she likes me. She said she's been smitten with me and can't remember the last guy she was 'talking to' other than me. (BS obviously but still). That guy I talked to in work for his opinion (I knew it was a bad idea) told her that I told him '**** her i'll just **** someone else', and that's one of the reasons she didn't want to come over this week. NEVER talk to anyone else if she knows them.

I left the option open for her to come over my place next week, basically insinuated, if you don't come.. I'm dating other people. I'll be a man of my word and postpone dating other girls until next week, unless I meet one on a night out this weekend.

Too much talking. Just ignore her. If she's not trying to get closer forget about her .

 

[mrgoodstuff]

What a head ****. There was times when I was with her she would seem so absorbed, eyes bright and loving. Yet I always had a gut feeling she was holding back (obvious) or just her heart wasn't in it.

She messages me. Every.single.day. Then she does/says stuff like this. I think this girl is super insecure and likes more than 1 guy (me being one of them) and is just non committal.

It's over now though. I can't keep going on like this, time to end the mental torment.

You fvck3d yourself. You have to be a "guy" . I guess I'm seeing it all as clearly as the real daters here . After you look at it correctly there's not alot to figure out.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

What a head ****. There was times when I was with her she would seem so absorbed, eyes bright and loving. Yet I always had a gut feeling she was holding back (obvious) or just her heart wasn't in it.

She messages me. Every.single.day. Then she does/says stuff like this. I think this girl is super insecure and likes more than 1 guy (me being one of them) and is just non committal.

It's over now though. I can't keep going on like this, time to end the mental torment.

She messages you to keep you on the line. She doesn't use you for sexual attention

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Dude thanks for your presentation . You clearly described a "ho chasing" scenario that is very common . It all makes sense like being able to read a foreign language that was not correctly understood.

 

[newtothis92]

Question, Should I delete her off social media or would that be petty? Or just ignore anything she sends me from now on? (I know she will)

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Question, Should I delete her off social media or would that be petty? Or just ignore anything she sends me from now on? (I know she will)

You don't have to delete unless it's a distraction.

Go get some pvssy from somewhere else.

The only thing that's allowed with this babe is meet at her place or yours, Netflix and chill. For sex to happen.

Don't respond to any text that's not trying to meet up.

Don't tell her what your thinking either. No threats . Just be true in your actions .

Don't waste anymore time energy or money on this lady who was obviously jerking you around .

 

[mrgoodstuff]

= You don’t make Her happy…

What makes her happy? Probably some dude that she's attracted to whose not worrying about her .

 

[newtothis92]

One of the last things she said was she was getting depressed cause she had a bad feeling something bad was going to happen (she's insecure and been hurt before), then after our last date I was acting cold to her because she was treating me like a friend and she didn't know why (I didn't tell her why). After that apparently she was severely depressed and that's when she went to the gym with that guy because he heard she was getting depressed and thought it would take her mind off it (she never told me she was depressed lol). Then I told her I wanted to date other people and apparently that really hurt her and she thinks I'm going to change my mind about her again down the line and she's scared she's not going to be good enough for me. Since the last date I've also basically been saying come over mine I'm not meeting you out anywhere anymore (code for come over and lets ****) after she asked a couple times for us to go out somewhere. She said 'you can easily shag and bag me, you asking me to come over ASAP doesn't sound like you actually care about me'. Then that jerk off from work telling her that I was saying I'm gonna **** someone else didn't help either. She kept wanting to talk about it all the time in work, saying she wouldn't be trying to sort it out if she didn't care.

I know I'm coping, but is it possible, at all, that I've misinterpreted her actions at all? I know in reality it's all probably a ruse for her having ****ed that guy/or wanting to **** someone else while not feeling guilty about it with me. But is it possible at all she might be legit in her thinking/reasoning? Either way, she seems a damaged girl. I do feel a bit sad about how it ended as she's a nice person but has lost a lot of friends recently (I'd say I was becoming her rock and person she'd go to tell stuff/confide in) and I want some back up that I did the right thing here.

 

[newtothis92]

Anyone ??

 

[Billtx49]

but is it possible, at all, that I've misinterpreted her actions at all?

But is it possible at all she might be legit in her thinking/reasoning?

No

No

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Dude. In 2018 they are all doing similar things. We read her actions correctly.

If ya want a shot at hitting it, start effing someone else. Stop talking to her. The Universe is weird in that somehow she will decide she wants to give you some.

 

[newtothis92]

Harsh love is the best. Thanks guys.

You think she ****ed that guy? I think she did. She ****ed someone before when we was talking and recently lied and said it never happened. She comes across and innocent shy type but it's all BS.

 

[Bayne05]

Take a step back. Don't ask her out on anymore dates, it's time for her to decide what she wants. Shift your attention away from her completely, be busy and unavailable, make her work to get your interest back. If she doesn't step up, then she wasn't into you in the first place

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Take a step back. Don't ask her out on anymore dates, it's time for her to decide what she wants. Shift your attention away from her completely, be busy and unavailable, make her work to get your interest back. If she doesn't step up, then she wasn't into you in the first place

You should be having sex with someone else right now. Her only move is to hook up so sex can happen. Don't respond to texts or phonecalls unless it's setting up the chill session at one of your places. Otherwise you get to see more of the same.

 

[Tilex]

Three Things:

1) To the OP....
Your behavior around this woman is very beta. An alpha male takes what he wants and doesn't settle for being just a validation gimp.
She's dangling the carrot on a string in front of you, and you keep chasing after it like a donkey.

2) Time = Progress + Currency
If you aren't closer to your goal after spending more time, then you've wasted your time.

3) An uphill battle isn't worth it in the long run.
Wanna know how the South lost the Civil War? It was from a foolish uphill offense strategy. Uphill battles are rarely won in history. It's like that scene in Saving Private Ryan, where one German soldier on a turret was mowing down hundreds of guys. That's a waste of life if you ask me. Life is too valuable for that nonsense.
When you've been with a passionate woman that's really into you, you'll learn not deal with these fickle women that make you jump through a zillion hoops and constantly waste your time. No woman is worth that amount of trouble. Trust me on this!

 

[marmel75]

I reiterated to her I'm not trying to be her friend and backed off after no action on 6th. Her 'I was going to invite you over my house x day'. bla bla

Tell her "I'm not going to wait forever" and leave it at that. She will get the hint and if she is interested will amke sure she doesn't risk losing you over sex

 

[sosousage]

one. dont waste time, if its from OLD it wont last more than 3 month anyway lul (unless you are above her league significantly).

if chicks make you wait they are either;
1. insecure about their bodies
2. virgins or close to virgins
3. dont want to be seen as slooths
4. they think you are good enough to wait for that in case they want it and no one better comes LUL! (if they think that then he will come anyway and quite soon)