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How is it possible that an elite NFL player has to harrass rub & tug message therapists to get poon?

MatureDJ

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The accusations have been frequent and startling: more than two dozen women have said the football star Deshaun Watson harassed or assaulted them during massage appointments that Watson and his lawyers insist were innocuous.
my opinion: It would seem that such an elite athlete should be able to get poon without even paying for it - but then even if he did look to pay for it, he could have offered these rub & tug chicks a high enough amount that they could not refuse. Imagine him offering like $20K per hour - how in the world would a 'ho like that refuse it? He probably should have signed with the Las Vegas Raiders so that he could go to the ranches in Pahrump. Perhaps a lot of horny players might see that Vegas offers them a place to get pliable poon, making the Raiders overflowing with talent?
 

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Social awkwardness, money and fame doesn't fix your social skills, and deep rooted mental/emotional make-up.
^^^

Most dudes on this board significantly underestimate how simply having a friendly, confident personality and a LITTLE bit of game can go a long, long ways.

And even huge amounts of fame and money cannot make up for a LACK of personality and social awkwardness.

Plenty of actors, for example, offer waitresses tons of money for sex (so I've heard) but the creepiness FAR OUTWEIGHS the simple money for sex and they get shut down.

The whole idea of "women chase resources and men chase looks" is a METAPHOR to describe instincts that evolved over millions of years.

It is rarely a conscious thought in a ladies mind.

Dudes need to get over the "if you don't have looks or wealth it's hopeless. May as well give up" COPE.
 

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The real question is why the fck are these guys so freaking dumb?

Robert Craft, a billionaire that can afford the highest quality escorts, drives his Bentley to some random massage parlor in a random strip mall. Did he really think he can just roll up in a Bentley and not be noticed?

Same with this dude, why not just hire professional escorts that understand discretion?
 

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A man needs to reach a minimun threeshold in terms of looks, status, money and social skills to get laid.

The higher you reach, the higher the level of girls you can get.

What we observed recently is that the minimum threeshold sharply increases for all those features especially looks.
 

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my opinion: It would seem that such an elite athlete should be able to get poon without even paying for it - but then even if he did look to pay for it, he could have offered these rub & tug chicks a high enough amount that they could not refuse. Imagine him offering like $20K per hour - how in the world would a 'ho like that refuse it? He probably should have signed with the Las Vegas Raiders so that he could go to the ranches in Pahrump. Perhaps a lot of horny players might see that Vegas offers them a place to get pliable poon, making the Raiders overflowing with talent?

I actually visited a few of those joints in Pahrump but didn't get any services. I was tempted to respond to that "Should I visit a legal brothel" thread but was too lazy to type out a detailed analysis.

Those joints that I visited did have some sexy ladies and were overall pretty friendly.
 

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Social awkwardness, money and fame doesn't fix your social skills, and deep rooted mental/emotional make-up.
Watson does seem a little odd and detached in pics and interviews. I can see his vibe and personality not being naturally conducive to getting P. Like he's the type of dude who would blast frogs with a shotgun as a kid

There's a minimum level of comfort you need to induce in women regardless of your LMS.
 
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1). Athletes and Celebrities do pay for pvssy. A lot of guys specifically Black pillars think Chad and Tyrones are these demigods that girls just worship and drop everything. Although it might seem like it compared to your treatment to yourself, this is far from the truth. Chads and Tyrones pay the most for pvssy by far, they just get a much better return rate than the average guy. Plus, they are dealing with cleat chasers and bottle service girls that are accustomed to dealing with high smh men on a daily basis.

2). Your Average Girl has most likely been fvcked by a celebrity, sports player, and etc. Now, if we go to hot girls especially one that's around athletes constantly, his value isn't as great as it seems. Deshaun was hitting up hot instagram girls that worked with other professional athletes, not your average plain Jane in Dayton, Ohio.

3). Black Football Players have the biggest egos in the world. This is why they end up doing dumb shvt like this that makes you go wtf. This guy has been told he is basically god from every person on the planet his whole life. They start making these stupid decisions when the fame dies out and they don't have their coach, community, or the fans to protect them falling.
 

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Social awkwardness, money and fame doesn't fix your social skills, and deep rooted mental/emotional make-up.
Deshaun Watson is from small town Georgia where people are overly religious and let's just say that the average woman does not look that hot. While he was one of the best stars in the country coming out of high school, the quality he was around was probably not the best. Then he goes to play for Clemson where literally every stuckup southern girl and the few South Carolina women with awful egos end up, pretty sure @Bible_Belt can check me on this.

Put a guy like that in a big city and you have a recipe for disaster.
 

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As for NFL guys and most sports dudes in general, I've been around the type and these guys are really dumb around women. If you want to get an idea of how much the average guy super into sports sucks with women, just befriend the typical normie that watches ESPN and believes Stephen A Smith. Most of these dudes are clueless about women, addicted to alcohol, and thirsty as heck. I know we debated this a lot in my college thread and @SW15 kind of talked about it too but the amount of poon the average college athlete gets is overhyped. These guys are often too busy in practice to get much of anything going and they don't party that hard due to how many eyes are on them.
 

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If you want to get an idea of how much the average guy super into sports sucks with women, just befriend the typical normie that watches ESPN and believes Stephen A Smith
Stephen A Smith is a giant blowhard. I don't even think it's worth my time to discuss him in detail.

Sports fans who are not athletes themselves are often AFCs/beta males, who are a different type of male than a collegiate/professional athlete. Being a hardcore sports fan is often a symptom of the underlying disease of being an AFC/beta male. If you are someone who aspires to more than being an AFC/beta male, you'll not watch sports. You can play them for fitness, recreation, or possibly even arranging dates in a co-ed sports league, but watching collegiate and professional sports is a waste of time.
 

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Stephen A Smith is a giant blowhard. I don't even think it's worth my time to discuss him in detail.

Sports fans who are not athletes themselves are often AFCs/beta males, who are a different type of male than a collegiate/professional athlete. Being a hardcore sports fan is often a symptom of the underlying disease of being an AFC/beta male. If you are someone who aspires to more than being an AFC/beta male, you'll not watch sports. You can play them for fitness, recreation, or possibly even arranging dates in a co-ed sports league, but watching collegiate and professional sports is a waste of time.
There is a range. I mean I'll say, watching sports is fun and so is having a team to root for. I root for certain teams and am really into UFC and Formula 1. However, there is a difference. You can be into it and casually watch for excitement OR you can be one of those idiots that gets emotional over it and bases his entire happiness on sports outcomes.
 

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Spoiled kid syndrome. A man needs rejections to get a thicker skin. There might be (hypothetically)10 stages from saying hi to actually having sex, and within all stages a man can be rejected. It's a about how you handle the rejection.

Once you push yourself to the point of no return, you're fvcked. If a man gets rejected at stage 2 or even 9( pants down stage?) ,but doesn't take it gracefully and believes it affects his self esteem he'll continue ( and enters rape stage).

It's a thin line between " no means no " and " "no means yes". You gotta have been through some "no means yes " situations where you look back and think " I missed out on some p00n" to recognize this. Imo this might be a advantage the average man has over the man who suffers from spoiled kid syndrome.

You gotta be seasoned, have peace and a abundance mindset to take rejection gracefully.
 
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