How do you game on nice, intelligent, and maybe artsy girls?

[One on One]

I used C+F on this girl and I had her IL sky high for a few weeks after we met, but then it went downhill and she doesn't initiate anything anymore. It went downhill immediately after a night we went out with some friends and I wasn't really into the conversation. I think I may have been so charming, etc. before that I set such a high standard that it was a killer when I wasn't very sociable that night.

Since then, she hardly initiates anything with me. She'll still hang out and flirt, but it's so much effort. She's not very flirty in general (doesn't want to be seen as a slut) so I consider it an accomplishment just to get her to loosen up a bit. She used to always IM me first like several times a week, but now I always have to initiate it and often she doesn't do much to further the conversation.

I called her last Friday to hang out and she already had other plans (which I believe), but she was like really excited I called and like told me thanks for calling, blah blah.

I never had high IL on this girl so I'm not worried about getting her, but I do want to know how to work on these "intellectual" chicks. She's into foreign films, art, and stuff I don't know a damn thing about. My C+F game, jokes, etc. got a strong initial attraction, but I think it fell apart when she probably classified me as a partying jock.

I really want an answer to this scenario because I am generally interested in nice, intelligent girls rather than the partying girls that I seem to come across. It would never have worked with this girl because our interests are so different, but I do want that nice, smart girl.

 

[516]

I dont know what to tell you except that you will need to start becoming more well-rounded. Start watching and studying those foreign films, read books, go to museaums, etc. Emerse yourself in the world of the arts.

 

[WatchMeWalk]

I've said this before: "Artsy" and "deep" girls can be just as shallow and vapid as party girls, just with more class.
From the sound of it, I'm guessing your C+F caused her to put (unrealistically) high expectations on you until you proved yourself to be a mere mortal. Damn! I bet she wasn't even curious as to why you were so quiet that time.
NEXT! Don't waste time on a girl who expects you to adhere to an unwritten code of conduct.

 

[Halo]

My advice is to learn about, and develop an appreciation for, art and science. This is something that can't be faked, so if you like this sort of girl you've got to be able to communicate with them on that plane. If you're genuinely uninterested in that stuff, you won't have much to talk about with the girl even if you get her.

She may have classified you as a partying jock, I don't know. The glitzy, cheesy "hey baby" gold chain look advocated by some on this forum will get you nowhere with those girls. Might work perfectly well in clubs or frat parties though. I'm just saying the "intelligentsia" finds such people universally laughable. I have nerdy tendencies, and have always been with the esoteric "intellectual" crowd, so I find it pretty easy to work with such girls.

The best way to intrigue these girls is to provoke their thoughts through synthesis. In other words, use something she says or writes (or paints, whatever) and find its abstract value, in parallel with some existing artist, school of thought, or -ism. It has the simulataneous effects of flattering her and showing that you can take something at more than face value (i.e. deep thinker).

Obviously they have to find you physically attractive too.

 

[Fat Tony]

Here's a guide to faking an appreciate for art:

http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/syws/fakeart/fakeart.html

 

[Player_Supreme]

The same way you do any other woman

This is the only type that I roll with.

 

[One on One]

Originally posted by Fat Tony
Here's a guide to faking an appreciate for art:

http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/syws/fakeart/fakeart.html

Hey thanks man! That's a good tutorial. With my new interest in philosophy and a little studying of the arts, I am well on my way to becoming a renaissance man!

 

[Slickster]

Always treat all women the same.

Hot ones, ugly ones, smart ones, dumb ones, they are all just women to the core.

 

[One on One]

Originally posted by Slickster
Always treat all women the same.

Hot ones, ugly ones, smart ones, dumb ones, they are all just women to the core.

This advice is good, but its not complete. I contest that you can build an initial attraction using the same basic C+F principles on any girl, however, the intellectual will genuinely not be interested in a player, which is why you need to be versatile. Like someone else said earlier, the intellectual, artsy girl really does not like the gold-chained player so you have to be able to modify your style accordingly. I used C+F tactics and the initial interest was extremely high, but girls then think about things and she decided I wasn't intellectual and wasn't her style.

 

[Slickster]

Originally posted by dave134
This advice is good, but its not complete. I contest that you can build an initial attraction using the same basic C+F principles on any girl, however, the intellectual will genuinely not be interested in a player, which is why you need to be versatile. Like someone else said earlier, the intellectual, artsy girl really does not like the gold-chained player so you have to be able to modify your style accordingly. I used C+F tactics and the initial interest was extremely high, but girls then think about things and she decided I wasn't intellectual and wasn't her style.

Bullsh!t.

She lost interest because you weren't exciting enough.

An intelligent woman isn't going to discard someone she's having the time of her life with.

(Unless of course you are a total moron)

 

[So pimp its scary]

I have to agree on this one...

The only thing that matters in a girls personality is how hard you run game on her. Once you get good at being yourself, you might realize that you want nothing to do with elitist b!tches anyway.

Cause being yourself is all you have to be...

 

[WatchMeWalk]

Originally posted by Slickster
Bullsh!t.
She lost interest because you weren't exciting enough.

So men only exist to provide biaches with excitement? And for what in return?
I never hesitate to NEXT girls with that kind of mentality.

 

[Bonhomme]

WatchMeWalk is right on

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[Slickster]

Originally posted by WatchMeWalk
So men only exist to provide biaches with excitement? And for what in return?
I never hesitate to NEXT girls with that kind of mentality.

Don't be an idiot. You too Bonhomme.

I never said men are only here to provide women with excitement. Where did you see that I wrote that?

What I was trying to point out to Dave134 is that his woman didn't next him because he wasn't smart enough. She left because she thought he was boring, not exciting, not fun.

You don't have to treat women differently just because they are smarter than you. Show them a great time and they'll stick around for more fun.

Don't blame your failures on her intelligence or your lack of it.

Once you start treating all women the same you'll suffer less confidence problems. You're not worried or thinking " Ooh she's super hot and she's way smarter than me"

You treat her exactly the same way you would treat a dumb ugly chick or anyone else.