How do you game "easily distracted" women?

[squirrels]

Most of the young women with top-shelf looks behave in an easily distracted way. Meaning that they're constantly getting offers made and passes made at them from all directions from all kinds of guys and are often taken in just by the newness that an experience offers, not because it's better or worse, but just because it's something new.

The downside is that you can have a good time with them one night, call them up again in a couple days, and they're suddenly flaking because someone else asked her to meet him somewhere else, and you're already classified as "yesterday". Or if you meet one in a nightclub or something, you can hit it off with her great, but then on her way to the bathroom, she hits it off with the next guy who chats her up. And the next, and the next...how do you keep a woman who bounces from one point to the next, the quintissential "party girl", focused on you long enough to at least hook up with her?

I know the easy answer is "next", and that's probably the eventual answer, but I've found that the most attractive women fall into this category and I at least want to lay them if that's possible. I mean, what's the trick to maintaining high IL in a girl liek that?

 

[Phyzzle]

I adore this aritcle by Tyler Durden:

http://www.bristollair.com/outer-game/techniques/tactics/stealing-horny-chicks.html

Girls in clubs, its the same ****. Dance.... Dance.... Drink.. Drink.... No wait! Lights! Music!!! Guys hitting on us... We're listening to them... They're fun.... No wait! They're players... Runnn awaaaaaay!!!! Wait, its my BEST FRIEND... I LOVE HER... HUG MY BEST FRIEND!!! GRIND HER!!!!

God, how do I deal with this **** on a nightly basis? It's like they're on crack. Do you guys see this ****? They see their friends and they run up and scream and hug eachother?

I cant help you myself. Cant deal with that crap.

 

[squirrels]

I adore this aritcle by Tyler Durden:

http://www.bristollair.com/outer-game/techniques/tactics/stealing-horny-chicks.html



I cant help you myself. Cant deal with that crap.

Dude that is f'ing crazy.

I'll be honest...I don't like to "play". A lot of this is what I'd call underhanded...lying about being gay to c*ckblock another dude?? WTF is that?

But essentially what this article leads me to believe is that you HAVE to "play" to be able to bang the hot ones. I would prefer to just be my awesome self and have women like me for me, but this nonsense is a whole 'nother level.

Maybe it's the same reason I suck at cards...because I usually don't like to "bluff" and put moves on people. I'd rather just play solid, manipulate the odds, and wait for the other guy to make a mistake. But evidently that just gets you wiped out in a high-pressure situation (i.e. an excessively attractive girl)

I don't know if I can do this. I don't know if I would even LIKE doing this. Does that mean no hotties for me? :nervous:

Is there any way to do it "straight-up"? Or do you really need to get that involved? Somehow it just doesn't seem like I should have to work that hard.

I got clowned pretty bad last night. Met this girl off of MySpace, DAMN hot. We met up at a nightclub and seemed to be hitting it off OK, then all of a sudden she decides she's done with me and wants to just chase random people around the dance floor. I couldn't think of anything to do, it was like a lightswitch. I found myself "in tow" until I realized she was trying to duck me, then I bailed. She probably f'd someone else that night. But I was just chilling...I wasn't "gaming her" and I guess I got played for a chump.

I just can't get over the awkward feeling of all the tricks and goofball gimmicks these "PUAs" do to snag women. It may be natural for them, but it doesn't feel natural for me. Do I have to learn this sh!t if I want to snag the 9s and 10s? Or is there a better way?

 

[DJDamage]

I got clowned pretty bad last night. Met this girl off of MySpace, DAMN hot. We met up at a nightclub and seemed to be hitting it off OK, then all of a sudden she decides she's done with me and wants to just chase random people around the dance floor. I couldn't think of anything to do, it was like a lightswitch. I found myself "in tow" until I realized she was trying to duck me, then I bailed. She probably f'd someone else that night. But I was just chilling...I wasn't "gaming her" and I guess I got played for a chump.

The odds were stalked against you from the begining:

1) You met her on the net: Meeting someone on the net and then meeting them in real life has no barring on interest level. You cannot increase interest levels on the net and expect it to translate in the real world because it will be different. What you saw on myspace was not her but a description of her.

2) You met her in a night club: So you are meeting this chick off the net with no established interest levels (see 1) in a NIGHT CLUB??!! You realise that as a result you are FAIR GAME. I would avoid a night club with a chick I barley know because the competition and atmosphere would dictate that there is a chance that me and her can hook up but there is also a greater chance that she will find someone else in the club as well. Without estbalishing high interest levels she has no emotional investment in you.

3) After she decided to chase someone else: you should have done the same. It didn't work out she wasn't digging you so its time to find someone else in the club that will.

 

[squirrels]

The odds were stalked against you from the begining:

1) You met her on the net: Meeting someone on the net and then meeting them in real life has no barring on interest level. You cannot increase interest levels on the net and expect it to translate in the real world because it will be different. What you saw on myspace was not her but a description of her.

2) You met her in a night club: So you are meeting this chick off the net with no established interest levels (see 1) in a NIGHT CLUB??!! You realise that as a result you are FAIR GAME. I would avoid a night club with a chick I barley know because the competition and atmosphere would dictate that there is a chance that me and her can hook up but there is also a greater chance that she will find someone else in the club as well. Without estbalishing high interest levels she has no emotional investment in you.

3) After she decided to chase someone else: you should have done the same. It didn't work out she wasn't digging you so its time to find someone else in the club that will.

Well it was one of those, "Hey I'm in town for a day or two, what is there to do around here at night?" deals. I don't take chicks on dates to nightclubs. I kinda knew it was a bad idea from the start.

I DID see other girls giving IOIs...I didn't do anything because I felt like I was "looking out" for this girl tonight and I felt like the physical attraction was there, so I guess I got lazy and let it slide too far. Then it was like, "is she ducking me? Nah she's not ducking me...wait, is she ducking me? Nah, well...um...yeah she is. **** this." and I left. I didn't even really feel like being out that night, so I shouldn't have gone in the first place. But honestly, this was one of those chances my ego wouldn't let me pass up...the girl is an Internet pornstar. Literally. It wasn't a date. She f*cked someone last night. It just wasn't me.

I came out off my game and "brought a knife to a gunfight"...that simple, I guess. I just hate the way I have the 7s and 8s falling for me and the 9s and 10s always seem to get distracted and drift away. This has happened before...met up with hot blonde girl, chillin on the couch, a little bit of making out...call her up in a few days, cold shoulder. So I go out, meet another hot blond girl, first date, awesome, fingering her in her car. Second date, awesome, naked on my living room floor licking her *****, third date...well, there is no third date. Suddenly she's "too busy". It's like I don't even get a CHANCE to see and react to this trainwreck...it comes out of left field and I don't know what I'm "doing wrong". It's like, "You know, I really like you, we should spend more ti...OOH WHO'S THE NEW GUY??"

Yet the 7-8 range girls, they want more...in fact, they break out in tears because I won't let them sleep over after I f*ck them. It's like once a girl hits a certain "hotness threshold", where she's getting gamed by dudes left and right, she just can't stay focused in one place long enough for me to do anything.

I mean, do I NEED to use PUA "tactics" to stay on top of them? I almost have to invent an alter-ego to stomach some of the dumbass "patterns" and "techniques" they run. Is that what I have to do to get laid?

 

[DJDamage]

I just hate the way I have the 7s and 8s falling for me and the 9s and 10s always seem to get distracted and drift away.

It's like I don't even get a CHANCE to see and react to this trainwreck...it comes out of left field and I don't know what I'm "doing wrong". It's like, "You know, I really like you, we should spend more ti...OOH WHO'S THE NEW GUY??"

Yet the 7-8 range girls, they want more...in fact, they break out in tears because I won't let them sleep over after I f*ck them. It's like once a girl hits a certain "hotness threshold", where she's getting gamed by dudes left and right, she just can't stay focused in one place long enough for me to do anything.

I mean, do I NEED to use PUA "tactics" to stay on top of them? I almost have to invent an alter-ego to stomach some of the dumbass "patterns" and "techniques" they run. Is that what I have to do to get laid?

The prettier the girl the more sh1t you have to put up with.

The typical 9-10 profile of 18-26 year old in North America:
- Very self serving and very self absorbed
- has the mental maturity of a 15 year old.
- has low self esteem issues
- since the age of 15 she is used to getting to be the centre of attention and getting everything she ever wants therefore by the time she gets to a more mature age she is already ruined and expect this behaviour into her adulthood. The sense of entitlment is ingrained in her genetic code.
- Make lousy LTR's, only good for the short term.

But essentially what this article leads me to believe is that you HAVE to "play" to be able to bang the hot ones. I would prefer to just be my awesome self and have women like me for me, but this nonsense is a whole 'nother level

Being your awesome self means that you cannot compromise your integrity to chase after hot chicks with problems because you will end up kissing their ass and not keeping your integrity.

heck I would rather spin many 7-8's then settle chasing for one 9-10. At least the 7-8's try to make the sex good for you and chase you rather then you chase them. Remember as a DJ rule: We don't chase things that run away from us. The 9-10 may be good looking and stroke our ego's when we fvck them but they tend to be low quality women and other then their looks don't have much else to offer.

 

[lookyoung]

This happens to all the experienced players. You can't bang them all. I have also had this happen to me with quite a few girls.

BTW why would you lick a girls pu$$y without her giving you a BJ first or you actually banging her. I would never lick a girls pu$$y unless it was my girlfriend or a chick that I have fvcked or recieved a BJ from.

 

[squirrels]

This happens to all the experienced players. You can't bang them all. I have also had this happen to me with quite a few girls.

BTW why would you lick a girls pu$$y without her giving you a BJ first or you actually banging her. I would never lick a girls pu$$y unless it was my girlfriend or a chick that I have fvcked or recieved a BJ from.[/QUOTE]

Gets 'em warmed up. Usually ends in sex. Plus I enjoy doing it.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

Try giving them Ritalin.

 

[STR8UP]

I'm dealing with one right now. Actually I'm NOT dealing with her anymore because she pulled that crap on me again last week.

All you can do is make sure you aren't a lame ass, and when they flake make them pay for it by not giving them any more attention.

I go to clubs with a group of friends and the chick I just mentioned. She has guys hitting on her all night long. I don't pull her away or anything. Even when she was standing right next to me and some dude comes up and starts putting his hand on the back of her head, fingers in her hair and starts talking right in her ear trying to get her stimulated. Eventually she broke away without any input from me.

If she's right in front of me she's all mine, but if she is ANYWHERE else it's a crapshoot whether or hot she's gonna flake on me.

ADD?

 

[edger]

The typical 9-10 profile of 18-26 year old in North America:

- has low self esteem issues

Dude where've you been all your life?? You're wrong. Most(98%) "hot" women KNOW they're HOT and therefore don't have self-esteem issues. Like I've said before in a previous post, when you're getting hit on and getting attention from men EVERYWHERE you go, that's going to do ONE thing and one thing only; keep her ego afloat and increase her self-esteem.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

Dude where've you been all your life?? You're wrong. Most(98%) "hot" women KNOW they're HOT and therefore don't have self-esteem issues. Like I've said before in a previous post, when you're getting hit on and getting attention from men EVERYWHERE you go, that's going to do ONE thing and one thing only; keep her ego afloat and increase her self-esteem.

And you're getting those stats from where????

A lot more than 2% of hot chix have self-esteem issues. I work at a gym where plenty of hotties go work on themselves, the women there have some of the biggest body image/self esteem issues.

When they're out on a club, getting attentions, there is this bitsh shield on and hard to penetrate. When they are in the gym during the week, the real self comes out.

 

[Phyzzle]

Recurring theme in this forest creature's posts

Sorry for typos, Im checking in from Western Europe, keyboards are different!

Squirrels, I could swear that you begin a thread once a month bewailing that you have an inbuilt NEED for a 9 or a 10. Its just something you know about yourself.

Then you ask how ur sopposed to compete when these women recieve weekly invitations from random zillionaire guys based solely on looks.

To ask you a personal question, are you a ten? With due respect to your pivacy, what exactly makes you a ten?

Be specific: what do you look like? Do you make more money than 95% of the guys your age? What languages do you know fluently? What degrees to you hold? What friends do you have with major influence in political circles or the entertainment industry? Can you play any instruments, on the professional level?

WTF is so goddam awesome about YOU that YOU apparetnly deserve a top 1% model over 100 other guys?

And if you even think about saying "model hot babes should love me for me! " I swear I donät even know what Ill do!!!

 

[squirrels]

I'm not a "10". It's not about what I "deserve", it's about what I WANT and how I can GET it.

I'm trying to improve myself. I'm not there yet, no. And I guess I DON'T expect high-quality women to fall all over me all the time. But yes, I'm trying to score one. I suppose there's something wrong with that, and you're going to tell me to just settle for whatever crap I can find. If that's your opinion, then I guess I have to respect it.

But it doesn't change what I want. And I'm not going to sit around worrying about whether I DESERVE it or not. No one really DESERVES anything...and the universe provides bountiful things to those who don't DESERVE it. It'd be nice if life was fair, but it isn't. So why can't I be the one on top for a change? How do I get there? And not just the 10 girl, but the 10 life.

 

[Phyzzle]

It'd be nice if life was fair, but it isn't. So why can't I be the one on top for a change? How do I get there?

A lot of smart guys have spent their lives asking this, but their answer will cost you a small chunk.

Find a lair. Guys on this board do swear by the Mystery Method. Its involved, but it isnt fake.

Somehow it just doesn't seem like I should have to work that hard.
. . . Is there any way to do it "straight-up"? Or do you really need to get that involved?

Problem being: if you only have to want it, wothout working hard or getting involved . . . wouldnt 100% of guys already be successful by now?

I did mention that guys get super lucky and already have one in the bag right out of high school.

But do I know an average looking guy, with an average career, and no special talent, getting a relationship (not a lay) with an adult 10?

Hmmmm . . . do you?

So my answer to the orginal question is, yes there really are people who can train you to talk dominate loud, spazzy social situations, to trick the exploding, methed-out strobe light we call a beautiful womans brain, so that she pays attention to you for a while. But like anything worthwhile, itl cost you.

As for some easy trick to consistently get model hot girls, without money, looks, or even effort . . . Im not sure what youre asking for there.

 

[squirrels]

The "lairs" are usually pretty exclusive, aren't they? They don't take on just any "noob" who wants to learn to pick up women.

The link to the blog that you provided earlier has a wealth of info that I've spent a little time since looking over.

I KNOW a lot of this stuff, I've heard it for years now. Doing is another matter. If anything, this encounter has helped wake me up to just how far OFF that mark I've slid, partly due to being suckered into the "relationship mentality" by some girls I recently dated.

 

[DJDamage]

Dude where've you been all your life?? You're wrong. Most(98%) "hot" women KNOW they're HOT and therefore don't have self-esteem issues. Like I've said before in a previous post, when you're getting hit on and getting attention from men EVERYWHERE you go, that's going to do ONE thing and one thing only; keep her ego afloat and increase her self-esteem.

On the outside most hot women look like they have high self esteem but the reality they don't. They are obssessed about their looks and because of that they constnatly scrutinize themeselves, always looking for flaws in order to achieve perfection. I dated and met hot women who constnatly berate their looks in front of me and get depressed over it even though they look better then 90% of the female population. I found women in the 7-8 zone to be the most stable.

 

[Vulpine]

I'm not a "10". ... How do I get there? And not just the 10 girl, but the 10 life.

It's a switch you flip in your own brain.

Man, I used to worry about my hair, my height, muscles, weight, clothes, car... all that glamour.

You have to know, not think, know, that someday you're gonna die.
You have to know, not think, know, that you're a 10, regardless of what some barbie at the club thinks.

It's all sales, squirrels. It's hard to sell a product you don't honestly believe in.

You know how, when you see a chick and she's an 8, and you go up to talk to her and she's brain-dead and irritating? Her "8" drops down to 6 or 5?

It's the same thing, in reverse. Let's say you're a 5, but when anyone talks with you, does anything with you, or finds out something about you, that "5" turns into an 9.5.

Women don't work on the scale like we do. You can be a 2 and pull a "10".

There's no "how" or "why" with the ultra-hot chicks: there is only "do".

Those hot chicks are SUPPOSED to be with you. They might not think so initially, so you PERSIST, not blow yourself out. Once you start putting yourself in comparison on a scale with a woman you are considering hotter than you... oops - there she is on a pedastal, and you've already failed.

You have to appreciate your assests: if you aren't a 10 in your own world, then who else will see you as a "10"? It's a switch you flip in your brain from "loser" to "better".

Myself, when I roll up in a club, I'm a god (there are many gods, many religions). If chicks and other dudes don't wanna see that, well, tough rocks for them: they'll likely suffer a life of torment for not having known me. That's too bad for them.:yawn:

Notice the lack of "why can't I...?" and "How do I....?" There is no need for that "pandering to other people" business. YOU don't need to know how to "get other people to like you". These other people need to learn how to get you to like THEM. A king is the supreme ruler in his kingdom. A MAN is the supreme ruler of his kingdom.

As far as the "10 life", let me ask you a question: Are you dead?

 

[joekerr31]

the answer to easily distracted chics is that they can't be controlled. so NEXT.

but if you aren't prepared to next her, then your only other option is to beat her at her own game.

which means social proof.

if she wanders off, start macking on the chics around you. she has to know that she is easily replacable.

the moment she sees you macking up a bunch of other women, she will attach herself to your hip and ready to f*ck your brains out later.

personally these women are pretty lame if you ask me. they are probably only a dozen or so brain cells more advanced than a retarded gorilla.

 

[blueguy]

I ask this question myself. You have to ask yourself what ratio of each element you are comfortable with.

You say you just want to be yourself without any PUA manipulation tactics involved. Think about what this means...

There are two key elements in seling a product:

1. The marketing of the product.
2. The substance of the product.

PUA tactics are the marketing. Your own personal value makes up the substance.

Often times a phenominal product will not even sell simply because it did not have the right packaging/marketing or even had negative marketing or scare-tactics campaigned by competing companies.

Other times a product with flashy packaging and hyped up advertisements sells but people eventually find out that it is a gimmick.

Many successful products use intelligent approaches to build up both the company marketing and the product itself, which often results in off-the-shelf sales.

Both factors mutually impact the other. If you have a superior product, sometimes word-of-mouth advertising will begin to develop without effort on your part. And other times if you have a good product, the right marketing will make people believe it is not only good.... but excellent.

You cannot ignore either factor.

PUA tactics are not new. They have been in effect since the beginning of intelligence and will continue to be in effect.

Nobody can answer this question for you. It is up to you to formulate the right combination of things that work for you. If you examine your strengths and weaknesses and your personal potential, you can custom develop a tailored gameplan for yourself to become the person you want to become who attracts the people and things you want to attract.