How did you know he was the one?

[DoubleBarrel]

NOTE: In light of my other thread that got locked, please, oh please, if you're a Jealous guy who can't stand some men getting more attention from females while you get none and you get insecure with the smallest act of me picking the brains of our finest female members, do us a favor and lurk or f*ck off! If you're an Envious guy who can't stand to see others excel you and get more attention and praise than you do, do us a favor and lurk or f*ck off!

Now...

@catsmeow2 and especially @BeExcellent, I still didn't get the response I was after, after my thread got hijacked.

Essentially, you've had options your whole life, correct? You've had guys hitting on your over and over again, and you've had orbiters, and no shortage of opportunities to settle for less than the best, right?

But what differentiated your finances and husbands from the rest? Why did you choose them? What qualities did they have and exhibit that the rest didn't? And how did you recognize them as sure signs and not the gambits of seduction?

How did you know not only that he was high status (which is maybe a no-brainer here), but how did you know he would also be loyal and faithful, and make for a great companion in life, and that you were compatible as mates?

 

[kavi]

Lol why are you asking women these questions.
Most women and most men dont know ****.

99% of women have only dealt with beta males in their life.

 

[DoubleBarrel]

Lol why are you asking women these questions.
Most women and most men dont know ****.

99% of women have only dealt with beta males in their life.

Yes, most people are ignorant. But there are those who are self-aware.

@BeExcellent and @catsmeow2 both appear to have secured loyal and faithful alphas, and they know it. Which makes them valuable to me. I am an alpha, and I want their insights into how they secured theirs, in hopes that it will help me attract my quality mate.

Please, for the love of all things Holy, don't derail my thread again. I want answers. And persistence, I've found, is my strongest asset.

 

[DoubleBarrel]

Now I'm opening up the thread to other responses, but do you guys (from my last thread maybe) not recognize a quality woman (sexy, smart and faithful), and not want her insights into how you can attract one like her??

That blows my mind.

I think that should be the ultimate goal of DJing. Plate-spinners are on the same plane as alcoholics like me. It's just the pursuit of more mindless pleasure with no long-term benefit, other than perhaps the wisdom to refrain from what we're already doing. But the only difference is we already know the reason why we should abstain, but don't because we're addicted.

Imagine what we could be, free from our vices!

 

[kavi]

Bruh the first rule of Manosphere is dont ask women for advice relating to women.

How to attract women is just knowledge of the Game.

 

[DoubleBarrel]

Bruh the first rule of Manosphere is dont ask women for advice relating to women.

Then the Manosphere is wrong, and I have no further use for it.

Quality women (sexy, smart, loyal), they are attracted to the Supreme Alpha, and they recognize him and know why they want to secure him.

But that knowledge probably isn't even uttered in a "pick up forum", so I expect nothing but silence from Queen Bee and Meow.

But if @BeExcellent and @catsmeow2 want to join DoubleBarrel on a private forum, I would use my spare time to make the arrangements.

The purpose of the Mastermind would be to dissect, assimilate and classify into coherent language the Knowledge any young person could understand the route a man and a woman must take to find Peace, Joy and Happiness in Life together and enable them to find it. And I get the gut feeling from all whom I've read so far in this forum, that they're the only mentors who would qualify for this great commission. But I would also let Pan87 enter, because he was a Jester. And even the lowilest Kings appreciate great Jesters!

But maybe I'm just dreaming in all this. And people scorn the Dreamer.

I disagree strongly with the Manosphere when they claim women are useless for "dating and relationship" advice. But I'm a simp for saying so, I'm a white knight. Right?

Quality women know why they're attracted to a Loyal Alpha (the apex of all Mankind), know how to recognize him, and know how secure him for the long-term.

If you're not impressed with these women's achievements, and thus the value they provide from the Wisdom of those experiences, all you men here are fools!

 

[Gamisch]

Bruh the first rule of Manosphere is dont ask women for advice relating to women.

How to attract women is just knowledge of the Game.

I do appreciate the women on SS, but man, I would like to have a total slvt here on the forum who would say shyt with no filter. "The 1" , seems like a logical ,yet impossible thing to explain, and it seems to be more rare these days. A broken, OF stripper total slvt and her perspective of "the 1 " now that would be a interesting read imo.

Maybe she would talk about " the 5 " and be honest about it lol.

 

[Gamisch]

Then the Manosphere is wrong, and I have no further use for it.

Quality women (sexy, smart, loyal), they are attracted to the Supreme Alpha, and they recognize him and know why they want to secure him.

But that knowledge probably isn't even uttered in a "pick up forum", so I expect nothing but silence from Queen Bee and Meow.

But if @BeExcellent and @catsmeow2 want to join DoubleBarrel on a private forum, I would use my spare time to make the arrangements.

The purpose of the Mastermind would be to dissect, assimilate and classify into coherent language any young person could understand the route a man and a woman must take to find Peace, Joy and Happiness in Life together and enable others to find it. And I get the gut feeling from all whom I've read so far in this forum, that they're the only mentors who would qualify for the great commission. But I would also let Pan87 enter, because he was a Jester. And even the lowilest kings appreciate great Jesters!

But maybe I'm just dreaming in all this. And people scorn the Dreamer.

I disagree strongly with the Manosphere when they claim women are useless for "dating and relationship" advice. But I'm a simp for saying so, I'm a white knight.

Quality women know why they're attract to an Loyal Alpha (the apex of all Mankind) and know how secure him for the long-term.

If you're not impressed with these women's achievements, and thus the value they provide from the wisdom of those experience, all you men here are fools!

I feel you. If you read enough of their post you know they're guys are:
- successful men
- attractive men
- experienced men.
-non apologetic men

Basically all the basic principles of manhood . So I cannot speak for them , but it makes sense that you gotta be a quality man to attract quality women.

And yes these women here are quality , because they try to learn about men and their minds. That's a rare and almost jealous making feature haha But its unfortunately not a representation of the type of women most men actually date. Thats a cess pool of emotions hypergamyand drama. I know I would kill for a woman who actually tried to understabd me as a man on a deeper level.

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

It is silly to disregard all female advice based on the fact the it comes from a female. That’s a myopic way of viewing the world. One must develop discernment. The ability to tell the fools gold from real gold in life.

The problem is that without solid models the development of discernment in all things requires experience, and even if you have a mentor to follow, few have the wisdom and humility to learn from the mentor and save yourself unnecessary strife by learning the hard way.

The first thing to understand about forum is that it is a seduction forum at heart. But so many things go into being successful in seduction that a wider net of topics becomes salient to discuss and consider, and furthermore not everyone is born physically attractive so you’ve got things to develop or offset in yourself to create success.

The bigger question you need you ask yourself is what do you want? In life? With women? For the present. For the future. The answer, which is very individual, drives what you do.

Here there is a natural bias that spins into the negative and the distrustful. And that makes sense right? You’ve got a site the exists to help men succeed with women. That means many people here are struggling, or getting subpar results out in real life. And there are men here that have been seriously adversely affected by a woman in their own life personally and this adversity has a way of coloring such a man’s belief system.

Understandable.

Because of the negative flak you must peruse content to ascertain who people are. Solid posters are going to reveal themselves through solid & consistent content, they are going to ignore the silly stuff and give you advice that makes sense.

But each person here must sort that out for themselves. Different voices resonate with different men, and different belief systems.

So really the first thing to think about is what end result you are seeking. The OP is doing that. He wants a girl of the same type as me or cat.

Ok. So now what does THAT mean?

It’s not myself or cat specifically that he wants but he wants a woman with similar characteristics, similar character. If you think about it it’s a damn good question.

Pro baseball players don’t start in the majors people. They must evolve to the majors. They must develop.

In order to know in what direction to develop you need to observe women like this and understand what appeals to them.

The type of woman you want is desirable. She has options. So you need to figure out if you are going to appear on her radar screen. That in essence is the whole purpose of SS, is solving that riddle….and it is a different riddle for every man.

 

[kavi]

I do appreciate the women on SS, but man, I would like to have a total slvt here on the forum who would say shyt with no filter. "The 1" , seems like a logical ,yet impossible thing to explain, and it seems to be more rare these days. A broken, OF stripper total slvt and her perspective of "the 1 " now that would be a interesting read imo.

Maybe she would talk about " the 5 " and be honest about it lol.

You dont ****ING understand. WOMEN NEVER GIVE UP THEIR GAME.
That is for men to figure out and put into action.

The ONE, the Alpha Male. You are talking to him. Its ****ing simple. Alpha Widow. Dread Game. A ****ing crack cocaine rush she cant get anywhere else and the withdrawals are worse than anything. Life is empty without that guy. This all depends on how much better than others that guy is.

To be that guy is the hardest thing in the world. More importantly, women will still attempt to pass the opportunity away. The game is super complicated. Why? Women WANT to believe that they dont NEED any guy, that they are above any guy.

You dont need to ask women bruh. I am telling you, women LOVE it like nothing else when a truly Alpha guy is chasing them and they can believe "I dont need this guy I can say no".

The way you learn about women is like learning poker. You gotta try and put yourself in their head. Empathy is the best skill for this.

For guys asking these questions. You dont get it. In todays world women are completely lost and messed up in the Game. They have been scamming and cheating for too long and it is all catching up with them. The problem: there are still too many guys (99%) who dont get it and are still playing the current iteration of the game. Men REALLY REALLY need to step up their Game so they can call out women. But men are even MORE stupid than women in the Game. So women are really unhappy but they are not gonna admit it and men are not good enough to call them out.

 

[DoubleBarrel]

Advice from the old lady:

It is silly to disregard all female advice based on the fact the it comes from a female. That’s a myopic way of viewing the world. One must develop discernment. The ability to tell the fools gold from real gold in life.

The problem is that without solid models the development of discernment in all things requires experience, and even if you have a mentor to follow, few have the wisdom and humility to learn from the mentor and save yourself unnecessary strife by learning the hard way.

The first thing to understand about forum is that it is a seduction forum at heart. But so many things go into being successful in seduction that a wider net of topics becomes salient to discuss and consider, and furthermore not everyone is born physically attractive so you’ve got things to develop or offset in yourself to create success.

The bigger question you need you ask yourself is what do you want? In life? With women? For the present. For the future. The answer, which is very individual, drives what you do.

Here there is a natural bias that spins into the negative and the distrustful. And that makes sense right? You’ve got a site the exists to help men succeed with women. That means many people here are struggling, or getting subpar results out in real life. And there are men here that have been seriously adversely affected by a woman in their own life personally and this adversity has a way of coloring such a man’s belief system.

Understandable.

Because of the negative flak you must peruse content to ascertain who people are. Solid posters are going to reveal themselves through solid & consistent content, they are going to ignore the silly stuff and give you advice that makes sense.

But each person here must sort that out for themselves. Different voices resonate with different men, and different belief systems.

So really the first thing to think about is what end result you are seeking. The OP is doing that. He wants a girl of the same type as me or cat.

Ok. So now what does THAT mean?

It’s not myself or cat specifically that he wants but he wants a woman with similar characteristics, similar character. If you think about it it’s a damn good question.

Pro baseball players don’t start in the majors people. They must evolve to the majors. They must develop.

In order to know in what direction to develop you need to observe women like this and understand what appeals to them.

The type of woman you want is desirable. She has options. So you need to figure out if you are going to appear on her radar screen. That in essence is the whole purpose of SS, is solving that riddle….and it is a different riddle for every man.

You still didn't answer the question I'm asking you THREE times now...

How did you meet your finance? Under what circumstances? I want the FULL story.

If I was in a relationship, I would probably strangle you Queen Bee, for your ability to withhold a punchline so DAMN long.

That's a joke, just to make sure I'm not threatening to kill a woman "on paper".

 

[Gamisch]

Advice from the old lady:

It is silly to disregard all female advice based on the fact the it comes from a female. That’s a myopic way of viewing the world. One must develop discernment. The ability to tell the fools gold from real gold in life.

The problem is that without solid models the development of discernment in all things requires experience, and even if you have a mentor to follow, few have the wisdom and humility to learn from the mentor and save yourself unnecessary strife by learning the hard way.

The first thing to understand about forum is that it is a seduction forum at heart. But so many things go into being successful in seduction that a wider net of topics becomes salient to discuss and consider, and furthermore not everyone is born physically attractive so you’ve got things to develop or offset in yourself to create success.

The bigger question you need you ask yourself is what do you want? In life? With women? For the present. For the future. The answer, which is very individual, drives what you do.

Here there is a natural bias that spins into the negative and the distrustful. And that makes sense right? You’ve got a site the exists to help men succeed with women. That means many people here are struggling, or getting subpar results out in real life. And there are men here that have been seriously adversely affected by a woman in their own life personally and this adversity has a way of coloring such a man’s belief system.

Understandable.

Because of the negative flak you must peruse content to ascertain who people are. Solid posters are going to reveal themselves through solid & consistent content, they are going to ignore the silly stuff and give you advice that makes sense.

But each person here must sort that out for themselves. Different voices resonate with different men, and different belief systems.

So really the first thing to think about is what end result you are seeking. The OP is doing that. He wants a girl of the same type as me or cat.

Ok. So now what does THAT mean?

It’s not myself or cat specifically that he wants but he wants a woman with similar characteristics, similar character. If you think about it it’s a damn good question.

Pro baseball players don’t start in the majors people. They must evolve to the majors. They must develop.

In order to know in what direction to develop you need to observe women like this and understand what appeals to them.

The type of woman you want is desirable. She has options. So you need to figure out if you are going to appear on her radar screen. That in essence is the whole purpose of SS, is solving that riddle….and it is a different riddle for every man.

Great reply. But could you elaborate on what was" the spark " and made you feel like he was " the one". O top of that, what makes you stay ( where we keep reading most LTR's fail after short periodsof time AND that most break ups and divorcesare initiated by women)

. I understand OP completely. He wants a break down of the men y'all date, and their characteristics.

Really personal question ,I know. But interesting for men who wanna learn.

 

[kavi]

BeExcellent is dominating her man from my perspective. He seems to be a side actor in the main-show that is her life. Good on her. This is what I am saying in my post, she wants to be above and him below.

 

[DoubleBarrel]

BeExcellent is dominating her man from my perspective. He seems to be a side actor in the main-show that is her life. Good on her. This is what I am saying in my post, she wants to be above and him below.

You gained all that by reading her posts? Have you met the couple in person?

 

[Gamisch]

You dont ****ING understand. WOMEN NEVER GIVE UP THEIR GAME.
That is for men to figure out and put into action.

The ONE, the Alpha Male. You are talking to him. Its ****ing simple. Alpha Widow. Dread Game. A ****ing crack cocaine rush she cant get anywhere else and the withdrawals are worse than anything. Life is empty without that guy. This all depends on how much better than others that guy is.

To be that guy is the hardest thing in the world. More importantly, women will still attempt to pass the opportunity away. The game is super complicated. Why? Women WANT to believe that they dont NEED any guy, that they are above any guy.

You dont need to ask women bruh. I am telling you, women LOVE it like nothing else when a truly Alpha guy is chasing them and they can believe "I dont need this guy I can say no".

The way you learn about women is like learning poker. You gotta try and put yourself in their head. Empathy is the best skill for this.

For guys asking these questions. You dont get it. In todays world women are completely lost and messed up in the Game. They have been scamming and cheating for too long and it is all catching up with them. The problem: there are still too many guys (99%) who dont get it and are still playing the current iteration of the game. Men REALLY REALLY need to step up their Game so they can call out women. But men are even MORE stupid than women in the Game. So women are really unhappy but they are not gonna admit it and men are not good enough to call them out.

You are right, but there is a reason Fresh and Fit blew up like they did. Because of what you say, its rare for men to hear women talk about this. Invite a few (hot?) women ,ask questions and you get a million views.

We all know the analogy that you dont ask a deer how to hunt, but hey these women are here, are articulate, so I dont see nothing wrong with OP 's question. Its basically trying to take a short cut . That's where I agree with you, you gotta go out there,into the field and experience it yourself.

 

[Gamisch]

BeExcellent is dominating her man from my perspective. He seems to be a side actor in the main-show that is her life. Good on her. This is what I am saying in my post, she wants to be above and him below.

Maybe that will be the conclusion (once again); that some women at some stage need a bluepilled man. That's why I am leaning towards what I wrote about this being the wrong place for such a question, and why I am not surprised by your response.

Let me ask OP question to you ,how does a man establish a LTR? Is it possible and if so ,how? What is it your opinion women WONT tell? Do you think OP needs to be willing to ne " dominated " ?

 

[DoubleBarrel]

You are right, but there is a reason Fresh and Fit blew up like they did. Because of what you say, its rare for men to hear women talk about this. Invite a few (hot?) women ,ask questions and you get a million views.

We all know the analogy that you dont ask a deer how to hunt, but hey these women are here, are articulate, so I dont see nothing wrong with OP 's question. Its basically trying to take a short cut . That's where I agree with you, you gotta go out there,into the field and experience it yourself.

I'm against fornication, and I believe it's not only unnecessary to procuring a Quality Woman, it destroys those who might have been.

That's my objection to this forum, but I owe the owner a debt I will one day repay.

He's a standup, masculine yet compassionate guy. Like Jesus. Gentle, but strong. Forgiving, yet rebuking.

My prayer is all men I encounter grow to be amongst the light of Nobility, regardless of their financial lot in Life.

 

[BeExcellent]

But there ARE similarities. The generalizations tossed about here exist for a reason.

The Book of Pook exists for a reason. Read it. When you finish read it again. The Art of Seduction is also quite good.

As far as what intrigued me about my man, several things. He is physically striking which was first. He has a unique style that few men can pull off successfully but that makes him stand out and turn heads on top of his natural good looks. He is passionate about his life. He loves his profession and he loves his sport. He strives to be The Best in his endeavors. He is intelligent and funny, and he is kind. He has a good heart and he is protective. He is financially self sufficient. He is also quirky in some ways. He’s a neat freak, is organized and detail oriented. He has an aloofness about him which comes off as arrogant, although it really isn’t arrogance people assume it is because he is handsome. He is masculine and direct.

How did I end up with him? Well first he has to find me attractive for starters. If he doesn’t think I’m beautiful & sexy nothing goes anywhere. Then he’s got to find me to be good company and vice versa. He’s got to make an effort (he did) and he’s got to appreciate me beyond my looks for other qualities. I seek to know him and understand him on a deep level. I’m authentic and patient and kind. The combination of characteristics I offer are compelling. I find him compelling. So it works out. I also require investment (of time, effort, money). People value what they invest in. Relationships follow this predictably.

And I invest too. It’s a two way street.

 

[DoubleBarrel]

Hey DB, apologies didn't see your previous thread before lock.

Anyway, the short answer why I chose HIM and not the others is I need to think about it, it's not an easy question to answer!

There are so many different factors that went into my decision, including where I was/am in my life and what I ultimately want long term as well as where my husband was/is in HIS life and what he ultimately wants long term.

And how when we met, we/it just fit together, the right time, the right place.

Oh he's hot alright, successful, stable, high status (although truthfully a man's status doesn't mean a hill of beans to me, never did) but he's high status nevertheless, an entrepreneur, intelligent, educated, ambitious, all the qualities I go for in a man.

But truthfully, had I met him five years ago, I may not have chosen him because like I said, I wasn't ready, nor was he.

We came together at the perfect time in our lives, and like I said, it all just fit together, like two puzzle pieces.

I love ya, Meow!

But a question...

If you met him 5 years ago, what would have been off? The reason I ask is, and this may sound nuts, but I think my wife 5 years from now would have frowned upon and rejected me on the basis of things I'm doing right now.

And if I want her bad (which I do), maybe I'd sooner learn what my faults are and correct them now. And not just for her, but because I know she would be wise enough to recognize that that which I do inhibits me from being my greatest benefactor of others.

But man, Meow, I sooooooooo do love my beer buzz!!!

What's a man do about that?

And don't be my mom and condemn me for it. But what would a feminine woman do to convince a drinker of what a great man he could be if he would put his pleasures aside, and commit himself to the greater good??

Sorry.

I'm treating you like I would a wife.

But help me find one; a great one! I know you have the ability, conscious or not.

 

[DoubleBarrel]

But there ARE similarities. The generalizations tossed about here exist for a reason.

The Book of Pook exists for a reason. Read it. When you finish read it again. The Art of Seduction is also quite good.

As far as what intrigued me about my man, several things. He is physically striking which was first. He has a unique style that few men can pull off successfully but that makes him stand out and turn heads on top of his natural good looks. He is passionate about his life. He loves his profession and he loves his sport. He strives to be The Best in his endeavors. He is intelligent and funny, and he is kind. He has a good heart and he is protective. He is financially self sufficient. He is also quirky in some ways. He’s a neat freak, is organized and detail oriented. He has an aloofness about him which comes off as arrogant, although it really isn’t arrogance people assume it is because he is handsome. He is masculine and direct.

How did I end up with him? Well first he has to find me attractive for starters. If he doesn’t think I’m beautiful & sexy nothing goes anywhere. Then he’s got to find me to be good company and vice versa. He’s got to make an effort (he did) and he’s got to appreciate me beyond my looks for other qualities. I seek to know him and understand him on a deep level. I’m authentic and patient and kind. The combination of characteristics I offer are compelling. I find him compelling. So it works out. I also require investment (of time, effort, money). People value what they invest in. Relationships follow this predictably.

And I invest too. It’s a two way street.

Assessing your answer, I am only lacking in style and being self-sufficient. But I've been working on it. And hey, thanks, Queen Bee!!! This is just what I wanted to know! I'm sure I'll refer back a few times before Christmas.

If you don't mind, I hope to keep you posted over the coming months. I'm working on my first $8,000 deal. Praying I close by Nov!! It would open much desired doors.